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Quote from: notbatman on March 01, 2014, 07:45:59 AM

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The symbol for a satoshi, on the other hand, could be treated the same as the one for a cent, and placed after.

BTW, what is the symbol for a satoshi? Does it even have one?

BTC0.00000001 = 1$

I like the term "Fundemental Unit". That way we could say BTC0.00000001 = 1 FU

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The symbol for a satoshi, on the other hand, could be treated the same as the one for a cent, and placed after.

BTW, what is the symbol for a satoshi? Does it even have one?

BTC0.00000001 = 1$

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Quote from: Abdussamad on March 01, 2014, 07:35:07 AM

b) this sort of thread can never be resolved successfully:

Aye, I look forward to seeing this thread bumped once a year by proponents of each side, forever.

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Quote from: Arcas on February 26, 2014, 08:37:27 PM

It is critically important that we clarify the formatting of this.

Why?

a) this will depend on locale

b) this sort of thread can never be resolved successfully:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/when-to-move-the-decimal-points-1833

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Quote from: Interjekcion on February 27, 2014, 10:35:49 AM

Oh, come on... Isn't this common sense? You're always supposed to put the currency symbol before the value. Let me explain why.

Lets say someone writes a will/check to give Dinky 50 Dollars. And in the document it is written as "50.00$."

Then, Dinky can easily change the value by editing the document and scratching in 1000 after the 50.00$ and claim he is entitled to "100050.00$."

This couldn't be done if the symbol came before the value "$50.00."

This is only true if you wrote the cent value as well. If you didn't, you can easily forge the value when the symbol is before the amount, i.e.:

"$50" becomes "$50000".

Peter Lambert

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I like to put the symbol after. I have never understood why the dollar sign is placed before the number? So if you see $100 you read "one hundred dollars", that is just absurd since we read everything else from left to right, why do we have to switch things around for dollars? Any other quantity you put the units after the number, why are dollars different?

I like the abbreviation mB for referring to millibits, EG a dollar is trading at 1.709 mB right now.

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removed... doesn't matter. lol

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Bump

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Quote from: Interjekcion on February 27, 2014, 10:35:49 AM

Then Dinky, can easily change the value by editing the document and scratching in 1000 after the 50.00$ and claim he is entitled to "100050.00$."

In UK, cheques and all legal documents that mention money have it written as both number and words

Pay Bob's Widget and Bait Store
Fifty pounds only £50.00

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Quote from: Arcas on February 26, 2014, 08:37:27 PM

It is critically important that we clarify the formatting of this.

critically important?? - wtf.

Both ftw - whatever it consistent with other currencies in whatever context that finds itself.

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$50,000

Interjekcion

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Oh, come on... Isn't this common sense? You're always supposed to put the currency symbol before the value. Let me explain why.

Lets say someone writes a will/check to give Dinky 50 Dollars. And in the document it is written as "50.00$."

Then, Dinky can easily change the value by editing the document and scratching in 1000 after the 50.00$ and claim he is entitled to "100050.00$."

This couldn't be done if the symbol came before the value "$50.00."

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Quote from: Bitalo_Maciej on February 27, 2014, 05:03:03 AM

Definitely after. Especially that you could also use BTC / mBTC, which would be confusing to add before the amount.

So
- 1.23 BTC
- 10 mBTC
- etc.

Poll results will be skewed though, because probably most people here come from the US, where you place the dollar sign before the amount Wink

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I tend to agree with this since we apply scientific notation to the usage of BTC.

Part of me though says if we use a symbol like in accounting purposes we place it before, but if we use the abbreviation BTC, we use it after. After all, I don't see many people writing mBTC.

So we would have BTC1.2345 and BTC0.0401.
And we would have 1.2345 BTC and 40.1 mBTC.

Although...We could solve part of this conundrum by just creating a unique symbol for a satoshi. But then we'd have an issue with symbol placement again. After all, we but the $ before, but the ¢ after...

Gah! Undecided

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It seems that it varies from country to country:

Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_sign#Use

Placement of the sign also varies. Partly since there are no official standards on placement,[9] countries have generated varying conventions or sustained those of their former currencies. For example, in Ireland and the Netherlands, where previous currency signs (£ and ƒ, respectively) were placed before the figure, the euro sign is universally placed in the same position.[10] In many other countries, including France, Germany, Italy and Spain, an amount such as €3.50 is often written as 3,50 € instead, largely in accordance with conventions for previous currencies and the way amounts are read aloud.

And even for dollar it seems that in some province of Canada, they place the symbol after the amount.

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Quote from: Arcas on February 26, 2014, 09:29:46 PM

Quote from: 5thStreetResearch on February 26, 2014, 09:27:38 PM

You should probably just make this is a poll though

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You understand that this is language (or culture) -dependent more than it is currency-dependent right? In english "10$" is always wrong (or at least not the preferred form) but in many other languages that would be fine and putting the symbol before the value would look just weird. The same thing will happen to BTC.

This poll is basically asking "where does your native language put the currency symbol".

Quote from: orion87 on February 27, 2014, 05:25:39 AM

Quote from: Bitalo_Maciej

Poll results will be skewed though, because probably most people here come from the US, where you place the dollar sign before the amount Wink

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The same is true for euros and pounds so that covers most of the other people here

Er, no. My own guess is that in the native language of most EU citizens, the € comes after the value.

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Quote from: Bitalo_Maciej

Poll results will be skewed though, because probably most people here come from the US, where you place the dollar sign before the amount Wink

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The same is true for euros and pounds so that covers most of the other people here

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Definitely after. Especially that you could also use BTC / mBTC, which would be confusing to add before the amount.

So
- 1.23 BTC
- 10 mBTC
- etc.

Poll results will be skewed though, because probably most people here come from the US, where you place the dollar sign before the amount Wink

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US ≠ World

I have never seen the currency symbol positioned before the numbers where I live. So instead of confusing everyone here, due to the outcome of some random poll, I think I will continue putting it after the numbers.

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I think we should really go for it...

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Definit

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I like this:

BTC1.0001

0.00154BTC

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