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hero member
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August 24, 2014, 04:46:14 AM
#37
I'm hopeful that in the future the future there will be no taxes but contributions. With the blockchain corruption could be stopped completely.
legendary
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August 24, 2014, 04:40:16 AM
#36
ASIC manufactures are taxing Bitcoiners heavily. In most cases by keeping their money and not delivering miners as promised. If miners do show up it's not until after they're unprofitable to run if they're not completely burnt out already from mining.

This is not surprising when one finds out these companies are run by shady individuals and convicted criminals in many cases. 
newbie
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August 24, 2014, 04:13:53 AM
#35
Dumbass question Cheesy

What if in future, for example in year 2100, the bitcoin will be used by everyone.Working for bitcoins shopping for bitcoins,paying bills,etc.. So if an worker will work for 0.00100000 Satoshi/month, his employer will pay 0.00020000 Satoshi blockchain tax. This is 20% tranzaction fee. Is an huge tax and will ruin economy.And people with big tranzactions means very rich people will pay an infirm amount..  Can this be changed in bitcoin protocol if is needed?

There are some huge tweaks and changes that will be need to be made for BTC to survive.
sr. member
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August 24, 2014, 01:41:22 AM
#34
Government will tax exhalations of CO2 as they contribute to "Global Warming/Cooling/Climate Change/(fillintheblank)".
I think this kind of tax will likely be paid for by the miners in the form of higher electric bills due to the government taxing the utility companies. It has been argued many times that bitcoin related mining is a waste of energy (I very much disagree with this for many reasons that I will not discuss here) .
hero member
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August 23, 2014, 10:44:08 PM
#33
I am not sure about all jurisdictions, but I foresee a 'wealth tax' on bitcoins too (similar to property tax).
Pay taxes just to hold bitcoin.  Grin
I don't think this would be feasible to enforce. Since it is difficult to know if a person actually holds/controls a specific address, it would be very difficult to make someone pay taxes on an asset that it cannot be proven that they own.

Also in order for this to be a possibility, other similar assets must be taxed the same way. So if a government were to tax it's people for holding bitcoin then it would need to tax all other assets the same way. The means that the government would likely need to tax fiat bank accounts the same way. If it were to not do this and attempt to tax bitcoin then it would likely not pass the equal protection test and would be found unconstitutional.
legendary
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August 23, 2014, 10:40:44 PM
#32
Can this be changed in bitcoin protocol if is needed?

Miners decide what txs add to blockchain, there is no set rule in bitcoin protocol for the value of tx fee. Recommended fee was historically 0.01 BTC, then 0.0005 BTC and now 0.0001 BTC.

0.01 BTC! That seems like a lot now.
I guess 0.0001 BTC will seem like a lot in the future.  Smiley

2030

I like this T-shirt, what's the price?
* 30 satoshis
hmm.. the price is high.. i'll back.

 Cheesy

All the faucets that are paying out now.. People will be trying to find their misplaced private keys in 2030.  Grin
sr. member
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August 23, 2014, 10:36:52 PM
#31
Can this be changed in bitcoin protocol if is needed?

Miners decide what txs add to blockchain, there is no set rule in bitcoin protocol for the value of tx fee. Recommended fee was historically 0.01 BTC, then 0.0005 BTC and now 0.0001 BTC.

0.01 BTC! That seems like a lot now.
I guess 0.0001 BTC will seem like a lot in the future.  Smiley

2030

I like this T-shirt, what's the price?
* 30 satoshis
hmm.. the price is high.. i'll back.

 Cheesy
sr. member
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August 23, 2014, 10:28:10 PM
#30
Dogecoins will be used for micropayments.

Or Simply more decimal points will be implemented into bitcoin
legendary
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August 23, 2014, 09:55:16 PM
#29
I am not sure about all jurisdictions, but I foresee a 'wealth tax' on bitcoins too (similar to property tax).
Pay taxes just to hold bitcoin.  Grin
member
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August 23, 2014, 09:39:25 PM
#28
I hope there will be no tax on btc
legendary
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RIP Mommy
August 23, 2014, 09:17:09 PM
#27
Government will tax exhalations of CO2 as they contribute to "Global Warming/Cooling/Climate Change/(fillintheblank)".
member
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August 23, 2014, 10:34:49 AM
#26
Government will tax everything and anything they can get easy mass level revenue. So yeah, it will be taxable soon.
legendary
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August 23, 2014, 07:17:27 AM
#25
Can this be changed in bitcoin protocol if is needed?

Miners decide what txs add to blockchain, there is no set rule in bitcoin protocol for the value of tx fee. Recommended fee was historically 0.01 BTC, then 0.0005 BTC and now 0.0001 BTC.

0.01 BTC! That seems like a lot now.
I guess 0.0001 BTC will seem like a lot in the future.  Smiley
member
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August 23, 2014, 04:16:51 AM
#24
Bitcoin taxing has already started in some parts of world...by 2050 most countries will tax bitcoin Smiley
member
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August 22, 2014, 06:53:06 PM
#23
Can this be changed in bitcoin protocol if is needed?

Miners decide what txs add to blockchain, there is no set rule in bitcoin protocol for the value of tx fee. Recommended fee was historically 0.01 BTC, then 0.0005 BTC and now 0.0001 BTC.
newbie
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August 22, 2014, 06:15:07 PM
#22
Dumbass question Cheesy

What if in future, for example in year 2100, the bitcoin will be used by everyone.Working for bitcoins shopping for bitcoins,paying bills,etc.. So if an worker will work for 0.00100000 Satoshi/month, his employer will pay 0.00020000 Satoshi blockchain tax. This is 20% tranzaction fee. Is an huge tax and will ruin economy.And people with big tranzactions means very rich people will pay an infirm amount..  Can this be changed in bitcoin protocol if is needed?

What do you think about international market, country will take a huge part of btc market then. After that Satoshi wallet will look like Bill Gates 7-10 years ago, so only 1 very rich man.  Wink
sr. member
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August 22, 2014, 03:27:30 PM
#21
Tax me if you can?

The network (nodes) have a FEE per Tx, and online wallets too (cex.io ... blockchain... ) with a fee of 0.0001 BTC,

I think, in a future, this gonna decrease, (when btc reach the 1k- 5k), i don't know, like 0.00008 - 0.00005.

sorry my bad english  Cheesy
hero member
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August 19, 2014, 08:44:27 AM
#20
Dumbass question Cheesy

What if in future, for example in year 2100, the bitcoin will be used by everyone.Working for bitcoins shopping for bitcoins,paying bills,etc.. So if an worker will work for 0.00100000 Satoshi/month, his employer will pay 0.00020000 Satoshi blockchain tax. This is 20% tranzaction fee. Is an huge tax and will ruin economy.And people with big tranzactions means very rich people will pay an infirm amount..  Can this be changed in bitcoin protocol if is needed?
BTC is born without banks and taxes.
So here goes the saying of "Tax me if you can", haha!
hero member
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August 19, 2014, 06:30:38 AM
#19
You have lost the wallet or your passkey that's it. You have to back it up a few times and then get some back-ups that you need to keep in some safe spots otherwise you've lost your bitcoin forever.

You know the story about the guy that throw away his hdd that made the news and that is no singular case , there are a few each month in the help section.

With the money in your bank at least all you need is your id which you can replace any time.
To be clear, I bolded the word loose to indicate that I knew it was spelled wrong, no to call out or make fun of the poster.  One could also infer that I was making fun of the poster by using the term "more assets" but I was actually trying to make sure the analogy was crystal clear.  The point I was TRYING to make regarding losing the password for the wallet is this: If you lose your real wallet, the cash is gone, too.

While I didn't go there originally, yes, you can make the back-ups that you refer to, however, you can't back up a leather wallet with cash in it.  Beyond that, yes, banks are a different beast, but they also have their tradeoffs, and while I am not for or against it, those tradeoffs may be available for insured bitcoin in the future.  I believe everything I have posted in this response is low-level logic, and I responded the way I did in my previous post because I fully believe (still do) that the post I quoted has an agenda (FUD or peddling).
sr. member
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August 19, 2014, 06:11:46 AM
#18
Unfortunately that's going a little beyond the scope, while it's possible it's extremely unlikely - Bitcoin will grow as a popular/free alternative to fiat but nothing more IMO.
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