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July 30, 2015, 04:41:02 AM
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Where is the tl;dr version of this?

I am slightly disappointed. Such a long post by OP and there is no valid points given in it.
I'd rather not waste my time, unless OP can either fix his initial post or add a short tl;dr version.
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July 30, 2015, 03:50:55 AM
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I am slightly disappointed. Such a long post by OP and there is no valid points given in it. Promote bitcoin in Tampa and Kansas City? We want much more than a city to adopt bitcoin. My idea is simple, have more bitcoin ATMs everywhere in the world, and a user friendly app on phones. If people can buy bitcoin easily, more people will buy them for curiosity at first and then discover how easy it is to use bitcoin.

2 posts, and both of you couldn't catch the thing, it seems.
I don't want to have Bitcoin JUST in Tampa and Kansas City.
It's clearly written why I identified those cities.

I'll try to summarize here, in hope you will catch it.
1) biggest hurdle to make Bitcoin mainstream: convince them Bitcoin works, without having them understand how does it exactly work
2) how to make people trust in a complex SYSTEM, when they can't understand it?
3) let them see that the system ACTUALLY RUNNING
4) people can't see US, Bitcoin enthusiasts, as a SYSTEM that is ALREADY using the currency
5) they dismiss us as weirdos that are being SCAMMED (otherwise why oh why all the world is not using Bitcoin already?)
6) thus we need to show people a smaller, more identifiable system running on Bitcoin
7) what is the best way to do that?
8 )find the location in the world where Bitcoin has best reception, and convert it as much as possible
9) profit.

Now, you may not agree with this promotional mechanism, but at least I hope that you catched it now.





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The only thing we need to do is keep on recommending

We are ALREADY doing that, I guess, and that's clearly not working that much.
And even if that was somewhat working, what I exposed is a promotional mechanism that could immensely boost Bitcoin adoption through the world.
I exposed the reasoning behind this, if you read carefully you can spot there's some logic behind it.

Nobody says "hey everybody stop spreading the word, just let the guys in Tampa proceed to do all the work".

I just say "This is the location where people look more open minded regarding Bitcoin, it's the best place to evangelize because it's the place where people are more favorable to it. As showing a system running is the best way to convince people that a system WORKS, it might  be a good idea to proceed to convert Tampa instead than any other place on Earth, because people are more open minded towards Bitcoin."
You may not agree with this of course, but in this case you should say the reason.
Because I think it's quite undeniable that one of the best tactics to sell something is to show that the thing is working.
And evidently, showing that Bitcoin is mechanically working is not enough: people must see that there's a place on Earth that runs mostly on Bitcoin, otherwise they won't adopt it, or it will take a lot of time.
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July 29, 2015, 07:02:15 PM
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I am slightly disappointed. Such a long post by OP and there is no valid points given in it. Promote bitcoin in Tampa and Kansas City? We want much more than a city to adopt bitcoin. My idea is simple, have more bitcoin ATMs everywhere in the world, and a user friendly app on phones. If people can buy bitcoin easily, more people will buy them for curiosity at first and then discover how easy it is to use bitcoin.
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July 29, 2015, 04:45:41 PM
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July 29, 2015, 02:26:55 PM
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After several months of thinking about the Bitcoin issues to become a worldwide used currency, I've come to the conclusions you can read below, and I want to share them and hear opinions from other people.

The object of this study is to understand which is the best LOCATION to base the spreading of Bitcoin, in relation to effort, investment and local conditions.

The first consideration I make is that cryptocurrency main problem is reception by mainstream.
Cryptocurrency is such a new concept, something that such a large part of humanity has never heard or thought before, that pushing it into their lives under the form of money, a thing that so much influence our lives, replacing it completely, is an enormous task.

And up to here, I'm sure, you didn't read anything new Cheesy

The second consideration is that who acknowledged Bitcoin up to now is a particular group of persons: open minded, computer enthusiasts, mostly young males with generally an over the average IQ are the ones that can understand what is behind Bitcoin and its potentiality.
There's been somewhat of a boom from 2013 to now in Bitcoin spreading, with its highs and lows of course, but the boom has slowed down quite much in terms of adoption from privates at the moment, and we are in a phase that sees companies and banks studying it.

Also up to here, you probably didn't read anything too original Cheesy

So, now there's a question we are asking ourselves all the time: HOW to keep Bitcoin spreading and help it?
Following the two statements up here, we can guess that the best way to help Bitcoin spreading is FINDING PEOPLE LIKE MINDED.
People like us that can understand how Bitcoin works, or at least be so much open minded to ACCEPT that IT WORKS, even if they can't catch exactly HOW.
Also because, let's face it: IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
Most of humanity will not understand HOW Bitcoin works.
They will just use it, like they use cars, refrigerators, smartphones, and all the rest.
My personal opinion is that at least half of humanity would have big problems in understanding the blockchain mechanism, let alone cryptography and all the other stuff.
So, we have to EXPAND our target pool and look for people that will just ACCEPT Bitcoin, and following this, proceed in evangelizing THAT target population.

The main problem is FINDING this type of people, the ones that are not so much into computers or economy, but are enough open minded to adopt Bitcoin.

Of course, even up to here it may be that you didn't read anything too new.

But here comes the plot twist (maybe) Cheesy

How do you find a huge number of people and convince them to use Bitcoin without using a huge amount of resources, time and money?
I may have an answer to this, which also involves another consideration.

HOW do you convince a person that A SYSTEM is working?
You show this person THAT SYSTEM WORKING.
THAT's what we lack at the moment.
The rest of the world see us as "Bitcoin enthusiasts", weirdos that have fallen into some type of scam they have no wish to investigate further.
Or, in the best of cases, "if Bitcoin will become mainstream, I will adopt it, but for now I'm not interested."
People can't understand that we, some hundred of thousand of people scattered around the globe ARE ALREADY THAT SYSTEM.
We have to show them something more CLEAR, something their brains will accept as an irrefutable reality.
Something even SMALLER.
But something that can be easily identified as an ECONOMIC SYSTEM WORKING UNDER BITCOIN.
Or at least a big part of it, like 60 or 70%.
Something that will let these people understand that the thing works, WITHOUT ANY DOUBT.

We are asking to people to replace MONEY, the thing they used since they born, with something completely different.
This is the hurdle. We have to overcome this. We have to show them that their MONEY can be REPLACED with BITCOIN.

Now, when people can't perceive the "Bitcoin enthusiasts" as a system that IS working, we must ask ourselves WHAT they can see, understand and accept as that.
The answer that came to my mind is "a small city".
I think that when a small city will begin to run in large part under Bitcoin, the boom into mainstream will begin.

Not that this hasn't been tried before.
I was so enthusiast when I read about the Island of Mann becoming Bitcoin capital.
That disappeared in nothing. The government may accept Bitcoin for taxes payments, but if you go and look with Coinmap in there, it's a desert. It only means that there was ONE Bitcoin enthusiast in the government building, or a couple, or three. Doesn't matter. The community isn't a good one to accept the thing.
Then I read about the Island of Jersey. That puffed up in nothing as well, despite an association all oriented to promote Bitcoin on the island.

So, is the obstacle insurmountable?
I don't think so.
We only have to find WHERE people are most open minded regarding Bitcoin.
But to do this, there's a hurdle to overcome: as Bitcoin grants some level of anonimity, we don't know which country or city has the most adoption.
So, how to find this location, where people are more open into accepting Bitcoin, and PUSH IN THERE to make that small system fully (or mostly) working on Bitcoin currency?

Bitcoin map is only giving away VENUES that accept Bitcoin.
But, hey! Venues that accept Bitcoin... aren't shop owners the most difficult people to convince into adoption, because they have to add something to their system of payments?
So when you find the city with the most shops accepting Bitcoins, in relation to its population, it's probably the best location where to push Bitcoin adoption.
It means that THAT city is the most open minded regarding Bitcoins and that the effort into creating the Bitcoin system should go there.

So, I scoured a Bitcoin map to find which city has the best ratio of adoption of Bitcoin in its shops, and the result is below.
I didn't check systematically all the cities, I just looked at most promising locations, so if somebody will re-check, he may find something better, but I doubt it.

One last consideration.
People favorable to Bitcoin may not the single most influencing factor into the equation.
Bad economy in that location may as well be important, but I couldn't find a city with as good reception of Bitcoin as Tampa, Florida, in the USA, population 360000.

You would think that countries with bad economy would be first in the list of shops that accept Bitcoins, but unluckily, for some reason, it's not like that.
This may depend on lower income and less smartphones/computers available, or just because their minds are less favorable to accept new things, like the case of Greece seems to show.
Whatever the reason, my opinion is that poor countries DO NOT seem the places where the revolution will begin.

If I was a millionaire, with money to invest and promote Bitcoin (which in turn would come back under growth of Bitcoin value), I would invest in promoting in Tampa, as THIS looks the most Bitcoin receptive city in the world.
So, dudes from Tampa, I'm sure there's quite a number of you in this forum Grin you are the ONES, you are the chosen ones that should put more effort than everybody into spreading the word.
Your city is the one that probably puts less opposition to the thing, and will probably be the first "Bitcoin city" in the world anyway.
So if there's any millionaire in here... try to recruit some fellow Bitcoiner and send him spread the word.
For everybody's goodness and for yourself as well Wink

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nxbKuDItuKWVeQ8zqWgCBBqOxpyZ7CsfOz4gpwGgjCk/edit?usp=sharing

http://bitcoinmaps.info/

P.s.: alternatively, there's Kansas City, that looks very near in open mindedness regarding Bitcoin, but it's 140000 people more population... quite some more work to do!
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