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legendary
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April 07, 2017, 01:05:08 PM
#70
The price rise of the BTC is now because people realized that no hard fork will happen?

I totally agree the price drop was due to Bitcoin unlimited threats to Bitcoin but now that the threat is gone,traders confidence returns,but Bitcoin Unlimited could become another major altcoin and could receive respects from the altcoin traders.
member
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Merit: 10
April 07, 2017, 08:54:44 AM
#69
yup. Panic sell ended
newbie
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Merit: 0
April 04, 2017, 05:02:20 AM
#68
The price rise of the BTC is now because people realized that no hard fork will happen?
sr. member
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Merit: 258
March 25, 2017, 01:40:53 AM
#67
Is that true that we have to move all our coins to a bitcoin core wallet so that in case of a fork to Bitcoin ulimited we have our coins also there? I heard that it is not good to leave the BTC at exchanges because they won't deposit these BTU 1:1 to BTC. Anyone knows more?
If a hard fork occurs,immediately most of the exchanges would postpone the deposits and withdrawal of bitcoins for 24 or 48 hours.After that,you will be given btc and same amount of BU.Either you can keep the BU or just sell it immediately for some profits.

It could disrupt everything,better leave bitcoin as it is,I consider Bitcoin Unlimited as another altcoin like all the other bitcoin clone here,unless there's 80 to 905 consensus by all the major stakes holders I doubt if it can move forward ..
sr. member
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newbie
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Merit: 0
March 23, 2017, 01:55:19 AM
#65

To me it seems the whole Bitcoin Unlimited episode is a hoax, designed to lever the spread between extremely cheap signalling costs and extremely large returns on market movements.

maybe its not a hoax just a few people try to make some real good changes to btc, but i guess they will not succeed, even if their purpose would be good. Better leave BTC as is
legendary
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March 22, 2017, 07:11:39 PM
#64

To me it seems the whole Bitcoin Unlimited episode is a hoax, designed to lever the spread between extremely cheap signalling costs and extremely large returns on market movements.
legendary
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March 22, 2017, 11:20:41 AM
#63
It doesn't really matter at what hasrate they fork. BTU will still be an alt and Polo said they might not even list it. And they can fork at at any %. They don't need to wait until 51% or 76% or any other number.

without the right consensus they can not fork, otherwise they would end with an altcoin at 100%, after all all the altcoin are hard fork of bitcoin without reaching any consensus, this is the point of consensus to have the original chain upgraded and not a new one
member
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March 22, 2017, 10:41:35 AM
#62
How come free btc will have it wont until the gov is dead
sr. member
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March 22, 2017, 07:30:22 AM
#61
Perhaps some of you may want to go comment in the thread I started in Bitcoin Discussion. I don't often comment over there...

Re: Miner cartel, Bankster cartel, or an altcoin? Your choice?

...

Roger Ver the former Bitcoin Jesus is now giving Bitcoin maximalists a religious experience on the value of altcoins. Some said he is now the Bitcoin AntiChrist. Lol.

I am not trying to discuss altcoins here, but the damn fight between BTU and BTC is practically forcing us to! Damn it!
hero member
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March 22, 2017, 07:11:08 AM
#60
It doesn't really matter at what hasrate they fork. BTU will still be an alt and Polo said they might not even list it. And they can fork at at any %. They don't need to wait until 51% or 76% or any other number.

Not with an unilateral fork.
newbie
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Merit: 0
March 22, 2017, 07:05:29 AM
#59
Mate you still have time to think about this. Look where we are at now
https://blockchain.info/fr/charts/bitcoin-unlimited-share
member
Activity: 97
Merit: 10
March 22, 2017, 06:52:19 AM
#58
It doesn't really matter at what hasrate they fork. BTU will still be an alt and Polo said they might not even list it. And they can fork at at any %. They don't need to wait until 51% or 76% or any other number.
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 265
March 22, 2017, 06:43:51 AM
#57
It is a clusterfuck. I bought ETH. LTC and XMR are other options.

ETH forking history is kinda worse though  Undecided

At least the attacker fork failed.

hard to know which one was the attacker fork  Shocked

right i was just ganna say "ehhhh ya attackers won out in the end" lol

For a moment I got confused and I thought you were referring to which of BTU or BTC is the attacker fork.  Cheesy

I was on the side of Bruce Wanker and immutable protocols too back then.  Tongue

Roger Ver shorted BTC by getting into bed with Dash right before BU attack began. Then we have the Chinese mining cartel ostensibly leveraging electricity paid for by Communism attacking to maintain their hegemony of mining $1000 tokens for $50 in costs. And on the other side, we have the banksters who want to be able to get the bulk of transactions delegated to centralized hubs on Lightning Networks and Bitcoin onchain will become exclusive for them to use (only for very high valued transactions).

cooperation.
comprimise!
sanity!?
Bahahahahahaha!

no.

i think 90% of users and just everyone in general would want some kind of cooperation, comprimise, and sanity.
but i could be wrong.
in anycase, it doesn't seem likely

It is really easy to see that we the token hodlers are caught in the middle of a fight between Godzilla and King Kong. Because PoW is not decentralization!

Core tries to make it seem like they are the more rational ones with the softfork, bug fixes, enabling LN, etc.. but their agenda is clear if you really step back and compare who is fighting and the reason they can't compromise.
hero member
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March 22, 2017, 05:27:46 AM
#56
AFAIK It will be like it was at ETH when ETC was released. You will get BTU in proportion with your BTC holdings.
same thing will go and what will be the benefits of this to bitcoin holder aside from acquiring benefits with its value? its barely
needed to keep an eye from this debate for us not to be left behind.
legendary
Activity: 2366
Merit: 2054
March 22, 2017, 05:24:33 AM
#55
awesome, BTU is solving the problem of BTC, BTC can be possible if syncor with BTU it will be better, so that BTC is the BTU and BTU is BTC. or BTU is the largest number of BTC contract, this will not eliminate the BTC price is too much.
newbie
Activity: 39
Merit: 0
March 22, 2017, 02:34:25 AM
#54
AFAIK It will be like it was at ETH when ETC was released. You will get BTU in proportion with your BTC holdings.
hero member
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Merit: 629
March 22, 2017, 01:47:13 AM
#53
As far as I understand, BU is an unilateral hard fork, meaning they still accept, on their chain, "old style" blocks (and even Segwit blocks).  In as much as that is right, it would be extremely careless for them to fork with a very small majority, because they could be orphaned if ever their majority gets lost.  If it were a bilateral hard fork, no such danger exists of course, they could even fork at 20%.

But BU cannot fork at 51% (technically, they can, but it is suicide), because the slightest bit of loss in hash rate makes their big blocks being orphaned, maybe a few weeks from now: imagine the disaster !  All BU transactions gone, as if they never took place !

Moreover, the exchanges listing BU as an alt coin, BU would lose the only thing bitcoin has going for it: its brand name.

However, if BU forks at 75%, they are pretty sure to survive for at least a while, the time people "vote in the market".  Moreover, the OTHER bitcoin, left with only 25% of hash rate, would be in serious problems: only a block every 40 minutes, and only hope to get it fixed 2 months from now, UNLESS they hardfork too and change difficulty "by hand".  Major cluster fuck for "normal bitcoin".

All normal bitcoin users would see their wallets come to a halt until they upgrade to the latest, hardforked version of "true bitcoin", with a hard fork !

Exchanges might reconsider their stance if the "true bitcoin" is a minority chain with a lot of technical difficulties and no transactions, and BU, majority chain, happily running, and call BU "bitcoin".

So BU would kill itself with a small majority, but would have serious chances to get the brand name and kill off the old chain if they had a LARGE majority.

Which miners will never give them.
legendary
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Thank God I'm an atheist
March 21, 2017, 11:04:40 PM
#52
How can we know if the fork  is going to happen?

I see unlimited hash power is about 37%, way below 51%
hero member
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March 21, 2017, 10:46:12 PM
#51
Is that true that we have to move all our coins to a bitcoin core wallet so that in case of a fork to Bitcoin ulimited we have our coins also there? I heard that it is not good to leave the BTC at exchanges because they won't deposit these BTU 1:1 to BTC. Anyone knows more?

No we don't have to move our bitcoin core to BTU it will be automatically doubled / replicated. And besides that is still on debate and this is just politics. As of now, there's no real deal on this BTU however there are a lot of people that wants to migrate on this "rogercoin" but you don't have to worry about it.
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