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hero member
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July 12, 2011, 06:43:34 PM
#89
I made a ~6 BTC deposit and was prompted a 'minimum' fee of .03 ...
Then your transaction clearly looked like spam to the client.  This most likely means your transaction's inputs were quite large in number, ie Bitcoin was pulling from a *ton* of very small inputs.  The fee stuff only ever shows up for people dealing with very small amounts, sending transactions very quickly after receiving the coins which will be used as txins, or sending large transactions, either many txins or many txouts.  You fall in the last case, that doesn't mean that transactions often see the minimum fee, in fact a minimum fee of 0.03 means your transaction was *massive*.
hero member
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July 12, 2011, 06:40:46 PM
#88
But the auto generation of new addresses is still running on background!

Sorry but, if I'm not able to manage my own addresses, automatic generated by the software or manually by me, this is a bad thing...  Sad
This has never been a feature.  We've had the generation of a 100 key keypool for a long time (to prevent loss of coins due to coins being sent after latest backup), and the autogeneration of change keys since Bitcoin was released.  There is almost no additional value to being able to control the change keys aside from the "I want to mange all my keys to feel cool".
The specific problem you see here is probably a coding oversight and needs more investigation.

This kind of change cannot happen without public consultancy... Where the development beta tests ocurr? I want to participate.
#bitcoin-dev on freenode, the Bitcon-development mailing list, and the release candidates are posted on the forum before reaching stable.
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1020
July 12, 2011, 06:40:41 PM
#87
Really?  I've been using 0.3.23 for a while and I've had to pay the transaction fee on every single transaction except for about 5/100.  For me, the *rare cases* are when it doesn't make me pay a fee.  Did something change in 0.3.24?

Care to share an example transaction so we can see why?

I can only guess you're making payments with outputs smaller than 0.01 BTC?

I made a ~6 BTC deposit and was prompted a 'minimum' fee of .03 ...
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1020
July 12, 2011, 06:37:31 PM
#86
I don't care that there's a fee.  I have mine set to 0.01 for all transactions, anyway.  just STOP SAYING there is no minimum fee when clearly there is.  It's confusing.
Its also confusing when people say there is a minimum fee.  The satoshi client forces you to apply a fee on transactions only in very rare cases when your transaction looks like spam.

If very rare means 100% of all sending transactions I have ever done, then yes.  It is extremely rare.
legendary
Activity: 1204
Merit: 1000
฿itcoin: Currency of Resistance!
July 12, 2011, 06:28:42 PM
#85
I appreciate it! Thank you BTW!

But the auto generation of new addresses is still running on background!

We need to have two kind of interfaces, "advanced" and "normal", showing and not showing the auto-generated address. If the address exists in background, I need to see it in somewhere at the software, so, where is it?!

At the "normal" user interface, instead of hiding the auto generated address, the Bitcoin should distinc between the "user created address" and the "auto generated address"... From the point of view of Bitcoin, it is just "address", I know, but, from the user perspective, will be some kind of distinction between them.

Sorry but, if I'm not able to manage my own addresses, automatic generated by the software or manually by me, this is a bad thing...  Sad

I just want to see and manage all my address...   Undecided

This kind of change cannot happen without public consultancy... Where the development beta tests ocurr? I want to participate.
full member
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Merit: 101
July 12, 2011, 06:10:41 PM
#84
Where can I manage my automatically generated new Bitcoin Addresses?

I believe this is intended behavior... I was reading a post about how the self-generated random addresses were confusing to new users so they eliminated them. Once I locate the post I'll put it here:

(gotta run, did some searches but never found it... I will check back later... I think it was in the Dev and Tech board)

legendary
Activity: 1204
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฿itcoin: Currency of Resistance!
July 12, 2011, 04:47:19 PM
#83
Guys,

 I have two Bitcoin clients running on two different computers:

 Computer A: Bitcoin 0.3.23
 Computer B: fresh installed Bitcoin 0.3.24

 But the new Bitcoin 0.3.24 does not behave the way it did before... I mean, I sent B$0.01 (two times, second time I've sent through MyBitcoin automatic forwarding) from Computer A (0.3.23) to Computer B (0.3.24) but, at the Bitcoin 0.3.24, NO NEW ADDRESS automatically appeared at "my receiving address" in the AddressBook (I can see the new address at the main interface screen, but no anywhere else)! But it happens in Bitcoin 0.3.23... Why this have changed?!

 Where can I manage my automatically generated new Bitcoin Addresses?

 Take a look:

Bitcoin 0.3.23:



 Bitcoin 0.3.24:



 NOTE: I open a post on tech support forum, "Bitcoin 0.3.24 different behavior in "address"":
 http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=28343.0

Thanks!
Thiago
hero member
Activity: 588
Merit: 500
July 12, 2011, 02:44:50 PM
#82
So the answer is b). I'm an idiot.

Thanks, I see it now. I've no idea why the huge brain fart.

Not enough BitBrew this morning? Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
July 12, 2011, 02:32:46 PM
#81
So the answer is b). I'm an idiot.

Thanks, I see it now. I've no idea why the huge brain fart.
hero member
Activity: 588
Merit: 500
July 12, 2011, 02:04:24 PM
#80
Ok, here's what I'm trying to figure out. With prior versions, there was a wallet.dat file which I encrypted. Then I quit bitcoin, opened it up again and a new wallet.dat was made. I made the encrypted wallet my savings wallet and the new one my temporary. I could then swap one out for the other depending on what I needed to do.

I've got both wallets right now and I'm not sure how to import either the temp one or the savings one into bitcoin. I really don't want to proceed further because I don't want to harm my savings wallet.
The exact same way you always did.  Nothing in terms of wallet handling has changed.

Weird. Before, when I encrypted and moved the savings wallet.dat, for example, I'd reopen bitcoin and a new wallet.dat would be created. I'm either not remembering where bitcoin keeps wallet.dat or something's different. Or I'm an idiot and forgot wtf is going on.

This was already answered above: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Data_directory

How do you protect your wallet?

http://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Securing_your_wallet
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
July 12, 2011, 11:46:30 AM
#79
Ok, here's what I'm trying to figure out. With prior versions, there was a wallet.dat file which I encrypted. Then I quit bitcoin, opened it up again and a new wallet.dat was made. I made the encrypted wallet my savings wallet and the new one my temporary. I could then swap one out for the other depending on what I needed to do.

I've got both wallets right now and I'm not sure how to import either the temp one or the savings one into bitcoin. I really don't want to proceed further because I don't want to harm my savings wallet.
The exact same way you always did.  Nothing in terms of wallet handling has changed.

Weird. Before, when I encrypted and moved the savings wallet.dat, for example, I'd reopen bitcoin and a new wallet.dat would be created. I'm either not remembering where bitcoin keeps wallet.dat or something's different. Or I'm an idiot and forgot wtf is going on.

How do you protect your wallet?
hero member
Activity: 755
Merit: 515
July 12, 2011, 11:17:28 AM
#78
Ok, here's what I'm trying to figure out. With prior versions, there was a wallet.dat file which I encrypted. Then I quit bitcoin, opened it up again and a new wallet.dat was made. I made the encrypted wallet my savings wallet and the new one my temporary. I could then swap one out for the other depending on what I needed to do.

I've got both wallets right now and I'm not sure how to import either the temp one or the savings one into bitcoin. I really don't want to proceed further because I don't want to harm my savings wallet.
The exact same way you always did.  Nothing in terms of wallet handling has changed.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
July 12, 2011, 10:42:28 AM
#77

Ok, so when bitcoin is running, shouldn't wallet.dat be in the same directory as wallet.h and wallet.cpp?
No, wallet.* are source code for the program, they don't belong with the wallet largely because the entire source directory is not needed to run the program.

Ok, here's what I'm trying to figure out. With prior versions, there was a wallet.dat file which I encrypted. Then I quit bitcoin, opened it up again and a new wallet.dat was made. I made the encrypted wallet my savings wallet and the new one my temporary. I could then swap one out for the other depending on what I needed to do.

I've got both wallets right now and I'm not sure how to import either the temp one or the savings one into bitcoin. I really don't want to proceed further because I don't want to harm my savings wallet.
hero member
Activity: 755
Merit: 515
July 12, 2011, 10:37:10 AM
#76

Ok, so when bitcoin is running, shouldn't wallet.dat be in the same directory as wallet.h and wallet.cpp?
No, wallet.* are source code for the program, they don't belong with the wallet largely because the entire source directory is not needed to run the program.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
July 12, 2011, 10:35:58 AM
#75
Yes but when you install bitcoin on a fresh computer, shouldn't it create a new wallet.dat file?

No, only when you have run the program.
Ok, so when bitcoin is running, shouldn't wallet.dat be in the same directory as wallet.h and wallet.cpp?
legendary
Activity: 1072
Merit: 1189
July 12, 2011, 10:25:46 AM
#74
Yes but when you install bitcoin on a fresh computer, shouldn't it create a new wallet.dat file?

No, only when you have run the program.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
July 12, 2011, 10:24:02 AM
#73
I don't understand where the wallet.dat file is. All I see is a wallet.cpp and wallet.h. How can I copy/encrypt/delete wallet.dat?

See https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Data_directory

Wallet.dat contains your personal keys and transactions - it is created and maintained by the program, not packaged with it.

wallet.cpp and wallet.h are source files for the program that manage the wallet.

Yes but when you install bitcoin on a fresh computer, shouldn't it create a new wallet.dat file?
legendary
Activity: 1072
Merit: 1189
July 12, 2011, 09:04:15 AM
#72
I don't understand where the wallet.dat file is. All I see is a wallet.cpp and wallet.h. How can I copy/encrypt/delete wallet.dat?

See https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Data_directory

Wallet.dat contains your personal keys and transactions - it is created and maintained by the program, not packaged with it.

wallet.cpp and wallet.h are source files for the program that manage the wallet.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
July 12, 2011, 08:58:43 AM
#71
I don't understand where the wallet.dat file is. All I see is a wallet.cpp and wallet.h. How can I copy/encrypt/delete wallet.dat?
member
Activity: 73
Merit: 10
July 12, 2011, 06:34:10 AM
#70
I just have to say thanks very much to all devs, for putting in all the time and energy!

Just went on a little tipping spree; wish I could do more...
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