Topic: Bitcoin vs Bitcoin2X - November, whats it gonna be for you? - page 3. (Read 2198 times)

I thought we were finally done after August 1, it seems that this is going to go on for a while, But i really don't believe that Bitcoin Cash has failed, it's still early days and i believe that anything can happen, Lots of people that's miners are signalling support for Bitcoin Cash, i am sure that it may eventually succeed and it will be prudent to invest in that as well.

It is still a lot of time before this can happen and everything can change, so it is difficult to predict how things are gona be.
I think that it will fail, as BCH failed also

Man, I hope there isn't another fork. I don't see how that helps anyone.

I assume between now and then there'll be some receptiveness from all parties to accept a longer time line for the 2MB thing.

I well and truly can't believe that every single NYA signee is happy to jump into software put together in a few weeks by a small group of outsiders. It's not logical or safe. They're betting everything on something that could have anything hidden away.

Segwit was tested for ages and a soft fork. This is order of magnitude more risky.

My guess is that there'll be loads of blockchain spamming and Bitcoin Cash games in the lead up with pumps and hashing power moving around from Bitmain in an attempt to force it but everyone else will be rational enough not to.

For anyone with a more significant amount of money, it will not be about which side they support.  It will be about which side they think will have a higher price.  Unfortunately people often seem to confuse these two things.

I don't particularly support Bitcoin Cash, but that doesn't mean I'm going to sell it.  The same applies the other way around.  So similarly I'll be holding both chains and watching how it ends, if it does at all.
That's because most people who loudly proclaim their opinion on Bitcointalk and Reddit are completely unwilling to listen or compromise in the slightest, regardless of anything that actually happens.

Most people on r/btc were opposed to SegWitx2 because it's not going far enough their way, and most people on r/Bitcoin were opposed to it because they don't want to raise the base block size at all.

So sometimes there has to be a middle ground that people won't be so outraged about that they'll ignore it when merchants start taking it.  I think SegWitx2 is fine for that purpose.

there is still 3 months to go and many things can change in this 3 months.


i wouldn't be so sure about it.
SegWit2x is nothing like bitcoin cash. it is not increasing the block size to an absurd amount of 8 MB and it has SegWit with a 2 MB block size.
and on top of it SegWit2x has a huge percentage of miners support (>80%) whereas BCC had virtually nothing. and the support was not just miners. and it doesn't matter anyways.

my hope is it either never happens or i wish core devs can come to a middle ground solution. if it "splits" then it will be bad for bitcoin. 2 splits in less than 4 months and 3 coins! it is not just about the price. it is the merchants that will think to themselves "what is the alternative to bitcoin which doesn't get forked every day"

Hi Community!

Still a few blocks for the 'technical lock-in' and we will 'probably' have Segwit in roughly 2 weeks. Does that finally end the scaling-debate? Personally I don't think so, as scaling will always remain an issue. In a couple of weeks we can celebrate the power of UASFs and Bitcoins technical progression for a short period. After that, reality will kick back in and all of us will face another big question: 2X or BTC?

The 2X part of the New York agreement states:
- A large part of mining power will be taken from BTC and moved to 2X
- A lot of Exchanges have agreed on exchanging 2X
- A lot of wallets have agreed on supporting 2X

An important note: Bitcoin Core does NOT support 2X

My personal view and choice: I think 2X will fail, and thus many people see it as another airdrop and sell when they think the price is right for it.

I know i cannot speak for the entire community, but to me it feels like some people (miners) are trying to force the community towards 2X and making choices for us, while none of us wants 2X, just a few miners. We are being forced by a group of people who have their economic incentives. Imho, the ultimate reason Bitcoin is a success, is because it gives you ultimate freedom. No one is forced, everything is free, it has a truly magnificent development team who put security, continuation, efficiency and Satoshi's white paper first. Core does not have economic incentives, miners do.

I truly believe that the community follows Core, and not a group of miners that force us in their hands by using hashrate power. I support Bitcoin Core, and the more support in the community i see for it, the faster i will dump the 2X coin.

** Note: 2X is planned for November. I personally doubt they will make it as it i feel development needs more time, and miners/exchanges can pull out of NYA.