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January 09, 2018, 07:45:05 AM
#87
In fact, gold is already somewhat losing its purchasing power with time. If we look at inflation-adjusted gold prices, gold has been underperforming against dollar inflation since early 1980s. Yes, its has risen a lot in nominal terms but it looks like people are losing interest in precious metals at large. It may be just a slow-oozing and long-lasting effect of gold being stripped of any monetary value after it seized to be a dollar backup.

I'm not sure what you mean by underperforming against dollar inflation.  Since the postwar Bretton Woods period, an ounce of gold has gone from $35 to $1300, whereas $35 is still $35.  If you mean something else, the early 80s were a bad place as a starting point, since gold dropped more than 50% immediately at the start of that period.

We can then take 1971 as a starting point.



I mean inflation adjusted prices, of course. So $35 back in 1934, the last year when gold had actually been backing up the dollar en masse, is not the same $35 as today. If we strip dollar of its inflation, we will see that gold didn't rise much in real prices. And if we take time period from 1981 till nowadays, the US government bonds, for example, have been performing better that gold. The treasuries are considered a hedge against against dollar inflation, that's what I mean by gold underperforming against it. That is, the treasuries were a better hedge than gold.
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January 08, 2018, 04:49:34 PM
#86
Even if bitcoin price would be x100 bigger than gold price, gold would still remain a lot safer and no one can contradict that because gold was one of the first things that people used to pay for food and different stuffs. Gold price is increasing every year and it is one of the best investments for a lot of people. I dont think we can consider Bitcoin better than gold right now because of the volatility and because it is not recognized in all the world. You can exchange gold absolutely everywhere for money but you cant say the same thing about bitcoin
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January 08, 2018, 04:27:18 PM
#85
I think that gold is still more important than some kind of crypto currency, so gold will always stay afloat, and no one will replace it.
There is also a saying That whatever comes fast will disappear fast. Well, bitcoin has been in existence for only few years but the value surged high so fast but gold has been proven even from the old days till now and still good in value. We dont know until when will be the fame of bitcoin but gold i believe will never disappear. May not be equal in value but more stable.
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January 08, 2018, 04:20:03 PM
#84
I think that gold is still more important than some kind of crypto currency, so gold will always stay afloat, and no one will replace it.
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January 08, 2018, 04:10:40 PM
#83
This is one of the most famous and trending topic about Bitcoin. What is more valuable Bitcoin or Gold? but the answer always from me and many other people in the world in Bitcoin. As bitcoin as a very fast growth rate more than gold it will give you more returns than gold in very less time.
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January 08, 2018, 03:51:25 PM
#82
Both of two things are totally different by their nature and people of all over the world uses them as different way. Bitcoin is not any type of physical thing and gold uses physically at many kind of different way. Both of these things are very expensive and we can not advance a thing by any reason.

Gold is very expensive material and it changes its value at a regular interval and most of the time it increases its price so if you buy some gold at past and sell it at future then you have 99% of chance to have some profit. On the other hand, bitcoin was almost priceless only some months ago and now its price is almost touching the sky. There are many people who can not afford to invest into that because of its high level of price even they want to deal with it.

But Bitcoin is not the only cryptocurrency in which you can invest. There is a full range of other worthy coins which are less pricey than Bitcoin, and you are likely to make more profits via them if this is what you are looking for. Some of them have a lot of growth potential like, for example, LTC which shot nicely during the last year. On the other hand, gold is expensive too, and it is hard to buy it in small chunks without paying hefty premiums. You can buy tiny gold bars as small as 1g, though it is not economically viable to do so. But they are still pretty good as gifts.

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January 08, 2018, 03:23:04 PM
#81
In fact, gold is already somewhat losing its purchasing power with time. If we look at inflation-adjusted gold prices, gold has been underperforming against dollar inflation since early 1980s. Yes, its has risen a lot in nominal terms but it looks like people are losing interest in precious metals at large. It may be just a slow-oozing and long-lasting effect of gold being stripped of any monetary value after it seized to be a dollar backup.

I'm not sure what you mean by underperforming against dollar inflation.  Since the postwar Bretton Woods period, an ounce of gold has gone from $35 to $1300, whereas $35 is still $35.  If you mean something else, the early 80s were a bad place as a starting point, since gold dropped more than 50% immediately at the start of that period.

We have to remember that the dollar price of gold has always been manipulated by the elites.  During the gold standard period, gold's value in state currency was fixed, because central banks had enough gold to sell at the fixed price to any buyer.  After the elites lost the last bit of control via that method, in 1971, they have been trying to pretend gold is a free market.  But serious books have come out with evidence of gold price manipulation by the elites.  Plus, the incentives are strong that the elites will do everything in their power to attract people to the currency they issue and not to gold, to preserve their savings.
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January 08, 2018, 01:39:07 PM
#80
Both of two things are totally different by their nature and people of all over the world uses them as different way. Bitcoin is not any type of physical thing and gold uses physically at many kind of different way. Both of these things are very expensive and we can not advance a thing by any reason.

Gold is very expensive material and it changes its value at a regular interval and most of the time it increases its price so if you buy some gold at past and sell it at future then you have 99% of chance to have some profit. On the other hand, bitcoin was almost priceless only some months ago and now its price is almost touching the sky. There are many people who can not afford to invest into that because of its high level of price even they want to deal with it.

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January 08, 2018, 11:46:22 AM
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With gold, it is pretty easy to predict prices. Unlike Bitcoin, gold value doesn't change much over time. It is its dollar price that changes. So if dollar is going to hyperinflate in the next few years, gold will definitely surge in that currency, but in respect to the value of goods it will likely remain the same give or take a few hundred dollars. Whether dollar is going to crash would depend on the economic policies of the US government as well as the economic situation in countries which aim to replace the American dollar. I mostly refer to China here.

Nice analysis, thank you.  They say, an ounce of gold has been buying 500 loaves of bread since Greek and Roman times.

The only thing I wanted to add is that today we have a situation that has not been seen since at least the 1500s, when massive amounts of silver were discovered in South America by Spain.  This is an increase in non-state-issued, decentralized money.  The 1500s episode resulted in a long inflation and the loss of purchasing power of gold and silver.  We may see the same thing over the next decades.

That is, assuming the elites don't screw up the public's trust in cryptos by promoting too many altcoins!

In fact, gold is already somewhat losing its purchasing power with time. If we look at inflation-adjusted gold prices, gold has been underperforming against dollar inflation since early 1980s. Yes, its has risen a lot in nominal terms but it looks like people are losing interest in precious metals at large. It may be just a slow-oozing and long-lasting effect of gold being stripped of any monetary value after it seized to be a dollar backup.
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January 08, 2018, 10:21:33 AM
#78
With gold, it is pretty easy to predict prices. Unlike Bitcoin, gold value doesn't change much over time. It is its dollar price that changes. So if dollar is going to hyperinflate in the next few years, gold will definitely surge in that currency, but in respect to the value of goods it will likely remain the same give or take a few hundred dollars. Whether dollar is going to crash would depend on the economic policies of the US government as well as the economic situation in countries which aim to replace the American dollar. I mostly refer to China here.

Nice analysis, thank you.  They say, an ounce of gold has been buying 500 loaves of bread since Greek and Roman times.

The only thing I wanted to add is that today we have a situation that has not been seen since at least the 1500s, when massive amounts of silver were discovered in South America by Spain.  This is an increase in non-state-issued, decentralized money.  The 1500s episode resulted in a long inflation and the loss of purchasing power of gold and silver.  We may see the same thing over the next decades.

That is, assuming the elites don't screw up the public's trust in cryptos by promoting too many altcoins!
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January 08, 2018, 08:32:29 AM
#77
Now bitcoin prices far past the price of gold. No wonder some people start switching to bitcoin investments. But the legality problem of the government is still a major problem, especially for businessmen or big companies who will invest in bitcoin.

I don't think that that will be problem since there is a lot of exchanges that can quickly change or let you sell your bitcoin into fiat or commonly USD. I think the most common problem that big business mans think in investing on bitcoin is that the idea of it being a bubble. We do not know that for sure but they are thinking that bitcoin really is a high risk investment.
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January 08, 2018, 08:18:11 AM
#76
I think if you invest in bitcoin at a cheap price, and sell a higher price again. You will get more profit, if you invest in gold with the sale price with the purchase price you will lose profits, because the selling price of gold decreased, or gold only in the form of jewelry only.
Gold takes long term process for you to earn, you will only lose profit if you really sell it in short term then you know the price is not yet earn x5. In order for you to earn more than x5 you must hold it for a years about 10-20 years but bitcoin will really become one of the top helper to help someone to become millionaire in just a months or a year. We know that butcoin is more better now than gold because it's easy to earn more than x10-x50 in just a year not like gold you must wait in about 10 years to 20 years.
Yes i agree on that gold really need a decade to earn because its price  is almost same  as  stable becaus it really takes a long time to change .While in bitcoin we can really have a profit in a   small period of time because its price is unstable  and  it is really rising each day becaus emany people believe and experience  the advantages of holding it in a short period of time and it is really profitable that is why if i have to choose among the two i really choose bitcoin than gold.
Yes i strongly agree  bacause bitcoin price is really better than gold because it is true we cant really gain profit in gold in a short period of time because its price is slowly moving and it is really risky because we need a big capital to make an investment in gold while in bitcoin we can really earn even if  we really dot have a big capital because its price is really unstable and it really change any time anywhere so then i also choose btc.
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January 08, 2018, 08:17:14 AM
#75
Now bitcoin prices far past the price of gold. No wonder some people start switching to bitcoin investments. But the legality problem of the government is still a major problem, especially for businessmen or big companies who will invest in bitcoin.
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January 08, 2018, 07:54:34 AM
#74
Gold is one of the traditional way on keeping wealth and it takes time for the value of your gold to be higher. Unlike in bitcoin if you invest now, you can see the growth of your money after a couple of months.
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January 08, 2018, 07:42:56 AM
#73
I think if you invest in bitcoin at a cheap price, and sell a higher price again. You will get more profit, if you invest in gold with the sale price with the purchase price you will lose profits, because the selling price of gold decreased, or gold only in the form of jewelry only.
Gold takes long term process for you to earn, you will only lose profit if you really sell it in short term then you know the price is not yet earn x5. In order for you to earn more than x5 you must hold it for a years about 10-20 years but bitcoin will really become one of the top helper to help someone to become millionaire in just a months or a year. We know that butcoin is more better now than gold because it's easy to earn more than x10-x50 in just a year not like gold you must wait in about 10 years to 20 years.
Yes i agree on that gold really need a decade to earn because its price  is almost same  as  stable becaus it really takes a long time to change .While in bitcoin we can really have a profit in a   small period of time because its price is unstable  and  it is really rising each day becaus emany people believe and experience  the advantages of holding it in a short period of time and it is really profitable that is why if i have to choose among the two i really choose bitcoin than gold.
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January 08, 2018, 07:07:42 AM
#72
I think if you invest in bitcoin at a cheap price, and sell a higher price again. You will get more profit, if you invest in gold with the sale price with the purchase price you will lose profits, because the selling price of gold decreased, or gold only in the form of jewelry only.
Gold takes long term process for you to earn, you will only lose profit if you really sell it in short term then you know the price is not yet earn x5. In order for you to earn more than x5 you must hold it for a years about 10-20 years but bitcoin will really become one of the top helper to help someone to become millionaire in just a months or a year. We know that butcoin is more better now than gold because it's easy to earn more than x10-x50 in just a year not like gold you must wait in about 10 years to 20 years.
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January 08, 2018, 06:52:55 AM
#71
Gold and bitcoin do not have to be at odds with one another and do not serve as substitutes. Gold and bitcoin work well as compliments to any portfolio that wishes to balance speculative growth with a proven inflation hedge.
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January 08, 2018, 06:04:02 AM
#70
I think if you invest in bitcoin at a cheap price, and sell a higher price again. You will get more profit, if you invest in gold with the sale price with the purchase price you will lose profits, because the selling price of gold decreased, or gold only in the form of jewelry only.
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January 08, 2018, 05:51:00 AM
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January 08, 2018, 05:49:17 AM
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the U.S debt is almost reaching ~ $21 Trillion, and Bitcoin supply is 21 million .. don't know what that means,  just something to interesting think about.
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