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Quote from: SimonJones on October 28, 2017, 12:03:06 AM

You have to be involved in Bitcoin and use Bitcoin to really know what it's worth. If he has not used Bitcoin then what he says is worthless because he knows nothing.

No sane person can "use" bitcoins. No sane merchant can make use of bitcoin to replace fiat for payments. Ok there are such BTC debit cards, etc. It's hyped silliness.

When shopping or buying online, just use your credit/Visa card and pay with your fiat money! Why roundabout <--, -->, <-- ... ad infinitum.

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Quote from: RyNinDaCleM on October 24, 2017, 11:44:15 AM

Quote from: panju1 on October 24, 2017, 02:08:56 AM

He is comparing it to Enron. I think it is just a case of sour grapes. He missed investing in it and now he thinks it will implode. Just like Jamie, he feels threatened by Bitcoin.

Considering he is among the richest *fiat* holders on the planet, he should feel threatened by Bitcoin which undermines his whole empire

Comparison with Enron is of course incorrect.

Most of you don't understand the difference between wealth and "fiat". Fiat is money supply at any one time - M1,M2,M3,etc. A person may own 30,000 shares in Facebook and keeps only $20,000 in his current account; his "fiat" is only $20,000. Alwaleed is never threatened by bitcoin.

Bitcoin and other crypto will never be a threat to central government banking.

Crypto and bitcoin's only use is to transfer wealth (not fiat) from the bottom 95% to the top 5 % - nothing else.

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Quote from: spngebob on October 28, 2017, 09:08:37 AM

"It just doesn't make sense. This thing is not regulated, it's not under control, it's not under the supervision [of any central bank]... I just don't believe in this bitcoin thing. I think it's just going to implode one day. I think this is Enron in the making..."

I guess we will be hearing a lot of these kind of comments from big guys.
It doesn't make sense to him or any other of his kind because all they want are slaves, people who working for them for nothing and barely can buy food to survive a month.
They think if something is not regulated or banks can't do shit about it then it is not real, i am sick tired of listening what they are saying - all of them.
What they are doing here is FUD and nothing more.

This is correct, it is not that they do not understand, they do since they are smart, what they do not understand is why the slaves want to stop being slaves, for us it is very obvious since, who in his right mind wants to be slave of corporations? But for him that stands at the top, the system is working as intended and they do not want to change it.

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Quote from: jjacob on October 28, 2017, 01:24:08 PM

Quote from: ask on October 28, 2017, 08:27:38 AM

he is just trying to take price down to buy more bitcoin. that what they do for years on stocks. But this is Bitcoin community and they can't play like stocks.

May be stocks are all what he understands.

It is interesting that all these attacks come from the establishment guys, the guys who have the most to lose if Bitcoin is successful.

If he is an oil tycoon then what does he really have to lose if bitcoin is successful? I actually think that most billionaires etc who make such comments probably have little financial interest in bitcoin and are purely speculating out of their own interest, they're rich enough already, it doesn't matter to them what happens with bitcoin.

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It's either "Fiat money system will implode" or "Bitcoin will explode"!

What robbed us in the past decades? Uncontrolled and decentralized bitcoin or by banks regulated and supervised fiat money system?

This statement has of course not any real or historical basis! When you had $100,000 20 years ago, today it's almost worthless. If you had bitcoin worth $10,000 5 years ago, today you would be a millionaire. Numbers says more than the words of a snake!

I like your opinion. Just will add one word: ... or by banks regulated, supervised and inflated fiat money system?

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Quote from: mostkey on October 28, 2017, 12:41:56 AM

Quote from: cafucafucafu on October 27, 2017, 11:24:35 PM

You can't take people's word these days.

Otherwise, bitcoin has been dead thousands of times and is about to collapse ever since its inception. Not to mention bitcoin being a ponzi scheme countless times, all from people that are apparently respected bankers and public figures.

Even if bitcoin price experiences a correction which i think it will, its technology will live on and benefit people. Just look at Venezuelans, they are using bitcoin for real life purposes(save money).

actually not just venezuelans who use bitcoin as a real-life goal, even many of us use bitcoin as real life, even they only have income from bitcoin alone, and even I can not imagine if bitcoin becomes extinct, maybe there will be a lot of unemployment in the world , and this is the fear for us all,

In fact if you're not too put a very big confidence against bitcoin, definitely life and also your thoughts will continue to evolve. The reason is basically an advantage that we get now is the result of our thinking in the past. If the bitcoin extinct then from now on you should make plans to avoid the impact of the bitcoin extinct, so income that we get in the bitcon portion be saved to build business or things that can bring in an income.

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Quote from: DaMut on October 28, 2017, 07:40:33 AM

it's just another opinion and everything that he said make a sense to be honest,
for them who has a lot of money in their pocket,they will not bothering themself with such a thing.
but if you ask them about what is in your mind about Bitcoin ?
of course the majority people will say the same,because who will be the keeper if something goes wrong ?
(he just thought it rationally and do not want lose his money without a reason)
Bitcoin price right now is ridiculously high for some people and without a good knowledge they will label it as an 'unkown' assets.

Quote from: RyNinDaCleM on October 24, 2017, 11:44:15 AM

Quote from: panju1 on October 24, 2017, 02:08:56 AM

He is comparing it to Enron. I think it is just a case of sour grapes. He missed investing in it and now he thinks it will implode. Just like Jamie, he feels threatened by Bitcoin.

Considering he is among the richest *fiat* holders on the planet, he should feel threatened by Bitcoin which undermines his whole empire

i do not think so mate,
no matter what fiat will exist and nobody can replace it,

FIAT will exist as fuel for your fire, or plastic recycling if new notes. The gipper.

"This arrangement resembles anarcho-capitalism, a theme Stephenson carries over to his next novel The Diamond Age. As described in both novels and the short story "The Great Simoleon Caper" (1995), hyperinflation has sapped the value of the US dollar to the extent that trillion dollar bills—Ed Meeses—are nearly disregarded and the quadrillion dollar note—the Gipper—is the standard 'small' bill."

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Of course he would say that. His wealth is based off the strength of fiat, and I doubt he understands what btc is or how it works. Maybe referring to the market's price explosion, but seeing as to how it has been sustained for a few months now, I dont think it will go below $4k even in the worst of the forseeable circumstances at the moment.

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Quote from: --PrettyCryptoGurl-- on October 23, 2017, 06:38:42 PM

...says Saudi billionaire investor Prince Alwaleed bin Talal. He added,

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"It just doesn't make sense. This thing is not regulated, it's not under control, it's not under the supervision [of any central bank]... I just don't believe in this bitcoin thing. I think it's just going to implode one day. I think this is Enron in the making..."

Read more of it here: https://www.c[Suspicious link removed]m/2017/10/23/prince-alwaleed-says-bitcoin-will-implode-enron-in-the-making.html

What do you think guys? Does his opinion have any real or historical basis? Or is his just a misinformed opinion?

(Note: I know that this post should probably be in the child board Press, but most of the stuff going on there are just news postings and not much else. I just want to know your informed and intelligent take on his opinion. Thanks.)

And did not he tried to compare it with oil?

If oil extraction would not be regulated then either the price would fall rapidly (implode) or we would be running out of oilfields soon.
None of these threatens BTC (we know quite accurately when we mine all coins and I'm not affraid of some regulations come true ... that would costs more than brings)

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In my opinion that his nonsense as well. He is a billionaire right? and an investors but taking risk is not his game. There is something wrong with that, maybe because he is not a legit one. Maybe born with it and have conflicts of interest as he have big investments on banks that is being affected with it. This is nothing but pure negativity that might not be good for his image than to bitcoin.

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Quote from: --PrettyCryptoGurl-- on October 23, 2017, 06:38:42 PM

...says Saudi billionaire investor Prince Alwaleed bin Talal. He added,

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"It just doesn't make sense. This thing is not regulated, it's not under control, it's not under the supervision [of any central bank]... I just don't believe in this bitcoin thing. I think it's just going to implode one day. I think this is Enron in the making..."

Read more of it here: https://www.c[Suspicious link removed]m/2017/10/23/prince-alwaleed-says-bitcoin-will-implode-enron-in-the-making.html

What do you think guys? Does his opinion have any real or historical basis? Or is his just a misinformed opinion?

(Note: I know that this post should probably be in the child board Press, but most of the stuff going on there are just news postings and not much else. I just want to know your informed and intelligent take on his opinion. Thanks.)

Saudi's billionaire doesn't know about what is the bitcoin and you should ignore his opinion. The fact that even a lot of countries are banning the bitcoin but the price of bitcoin still increase to the mars, saudi doesn't have any strength to influence the bitcoin.
I just never try to read those are against the bitcoin but doesn't include in the influence person.

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Quote from: mast3rm1nd on October 27, 2017, 09:15:18 PM

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"It just doesn't make sense. This thing is not regulated, it's not under control, it's not under the supervision [of any central bank]..."

that's the whole f***ing point !! seriously the people (holders) of bitcoin are the only ones that control it's value. in my dream scenario bitcoin is some sort of voucher that is used in exchange of goods and services. like the real definition of cash.

I know if people actually took 30 minutes in order to understand what bitcoin is about we will not see such ridiculous comments, however some people are unable to understand new technologies, I remember reading a long time ago an article from an economist describing why bitcoin will never work and then he set of conditions for bitcoin to become successful as you may guess he just described fiat, so he may be an economist but he was not a visionary and was unable to see that bitcoin did not wanted to resemble fiat, and that bitcoin is something new that we have never seen before.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on October 28, 2017, 09:12:37 AM

He knows nothing. Bitcoin did implode once. Now it's already stronger. He should have read more before opening his mouth.
And it doesn't make sense indeed. Something big they don't have they claws on. How could have this happened??
This is why they work together and try to spread FUD: to get on train even now, since the potential is huge.

For me, that's unpredictable. No one knows about the exact future of bitcoin. I think that was only a trick by people against bitcoin to refused of confused the interest of people. Instead of spreading out bad news against bitcoin, why not grab the opportunity to used it as future investment, for it is currently known to social networks due to its very interesting benefits or advantages.

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Yes, it doesn't make sense to a billionaire who'd been protected by regulations since day 1 and to people who want to control other people using these same regulations. Bitcoin might crash, but implode? I think not. The Prince is too accustomed to traditional investments that he's starting to think that bitcoin can be compared to his traditional stocks and bonds.

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Quote from: ask on October 28, 2017, 08:27:38 AM

he is just trying to take price down to buy more bitcoin. that what they do for years on stocks. But this is Bitcoin community and they can't play like stocks.

May be stocks are all what he understands.

It is interesting that all these attacks come from the establishment guys, the guys who have the most to lose if Bitcoin is successful.

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Quote from: --PrettyCryptoGurl-- on October 23, 2017, 06:38:42 PM

...says Saudi billionaire investor Prince Alwaleed bin Talal. He added,

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"It just doesn't make sense. This thing is not regulated, it's not under control, it's not under the supervision [of any central bank]... I just don't believe in this bitcoin thing. I think it's just going to implode one day. I think this is Enron in the making..."

Read more of it here: https://www.c[Suspicious link removed]m/2017/10/23/prince-alwaleed-says-bitcoin-will-implode-enron-in-the-making.html

What do you think guys? Does his opinion have any real or historical basis? Or is his just a misinformed opinion?

(Note: I know that this post should probably be in the child board Press, but most of the stuff going on there are just news postings and not much else. I just want to know your informed and intelligent take on his opinion. Thanks.)

I think the fact that it is independent of a central bank makes it immune to bankruptcy. However, a government could ban it or overregulate it but it would take several major governments to make these laws before it could kill it.

Bitcoin is a technology of the people rather than a business or government, in the same way that the internet is not owned by anyone. If it has lasted this long, it will probably be around for a while.

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Quote from: --PrettyCryptoGurl-- on October 23, 2017, 06:38:42 PM

...says Saudi billionaire investor Prince Alwaleed bin Talal. He added,

Quote

"It just doesn't make sense. This thing is not regulated, it's not under control, it's not under the supervision [of any central bank]... I just don't believe in this bitcoin thing. I think it's just going to implode one day. I think this is Enron in the making..."

Read more of it here: https://www.c[Suspicious link removed]m/2017/10/23/prince-alwaleed-says-bitcoin-will-implode-enron-in-the-making.html

What do you think guys? Does his opinion have any real or historical basis? Or is his just a misinformed opinion?

(Note: I know that this post should probably be in the child board Press, but most of the stuff going on there are just news postings and not much else. I just want to know your informed and intelligent take on his opinion. Thanks.)

Just for that reason Prince Alwaleed argues that Bitcoin is Enron in the making? that is in contrast to my opinion because I think not regulated, not under control, and not under the supervision of any central bank is the Bitcoin strength

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We have had alot of this type of statement and I think is one of those attack on bitcoin images. Bitcoin will not implode now and not even in the future as some of these comments could have created alot of damaged since some years back but we are still strong like stone. This man was not also informed like others billionaires like himself, Bitcoin was not created to be regulated by central bank because it is the system created by central bank that has put the whole world in poverty today and high inflation that Third World countries are experiencing today. Bitcoin is decentralized and governments cannot control or regulate it! You people either take it or live it, as bitcoin has been growing without the help of the so called billionaires and governments.

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Quote from: ask on October 28, 2017, 08:27:38 AM

he is just trying to take price down to buy more bitcoin. that what they do for years on stocks. But this is Bitcoin community and they can't play like stocks.

I doubt that he will buy bitcoins. Why are they to him? He already has everything. It seems to me that like it really do. Until the oil demand them not to worry about anything. Now they sell it for dollars, and so their economy is completely dependent on the dollar. We believe in the immortality of bitcoin and they believe in the immortality of the dollar.

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He knows nothing. Bitcoin did implode once. Now it's already stronger. He should have read more before opening his mouth.
And it doesn't make sense indeed. Something big they don't have they claws on. How could have this happened??
This is why they work together and try to spread FUD: to get on train even now, since the potential is huge.

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