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legendary
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March 05, 2017, 01:02:22 PM
Its all happening now. Do you know that we are all criminals here if we are really going according to law?
We do a lot of transactions that would not go with any taxable thing. We send money that is greater than what it should be normally without even getting a lot of tax which should be. Try sending a million dollars thru Western Union and let us know what will they say.
If every transaction is unusual they are being reported and that is an example, a million dollars

I think you shouldn't say that

Maybe, you are a criminal (I don't really know, just assuming) but doing a lot of transactions has nothing to do with taxes. You can send (and receive) fiat all day long (and at night too), but that doesn't in the least mean that you should pay taxes on transactions. Financial authorities may in fact get interested why you are sending money that often, but if you have a legitimate reason for that and are not participating in some criminal activity, in most jurisdictions you have essentially nothing to be afraid of. Most likely, you refer to paying an income tax on profits earned from Bitcoin operations, but then again relevant tax codes are different across countries and in some of countries these profits are not taxable. So this is neither criminal nor otherwise illegal either
newbie
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March 05, 2017, 12:58:12 PM
Actually it was not for Bitcoin Tax, Wealth Tax actually is! Whoever they are, either Individual or Business Performer, and any currency used required to pay property tax or income according to the number owned and regulated by each state. but if there is someone willing to avoid taxable, may be the only way Bitcoin does not switch to local banks (Currency apply). But it's bad behavior to be avoided
legendary
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March 05, 2017, 12:49:27 PM
No. It won't kill income tax. The taxes we have to pay for purchases is a lot.
Even if I have to give 0.01$ to my friend , including the fees and all I will have to pay around 0.15$.
That's a lot of fees/tax. But in the near future if this problem is solved , then it might kill income tax.
You are not paying tax to governament. You are paying transaction fees to third party site. They will charge that amount to send your coins to another person. This is the third party site income. If you pay the tax directly to governament, then they will not disturb Bitcoin, and they will allow Bitcoin as legal currency in your country.

I think you are wrong because the governments are aware about bitcoin and they will adapt the tax system. This is not very difficult for them cuz everything is under their control. 
Yeah that's true. Governments are much awake watching every moment of bitcoin. So if they are in plan to Levy taxes sure in a short will make regulations and make people get adopted to it. Recently one country have added bitcoin to the taxable assets list. Bitcoin killing taxes will not be much effective.
Maybe the least country will entertain this Bitcoin. Already existed countries will not entertain this Bitcoin.
legendary
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March 05, 2017, 12:16:45 PM
No. It won't kill income tax. The taxes we have to pay for purchases is a lot.
Even if I have to give 0.01$ to my friend , including the fees and all I will have to pay around 0.15$.
That's a lot of fees/tax. But in the near future if this problem is solved , then it might kill income tax.

I think you are wrong because the governments are aware about bitcoin and they will adapt the tax system. This is not very difficult for them cuz everything is under their control. 
Yeah that's true. Governments are much awake watching every moment of bitcoin. So if they are in plan to Levy taxes sure in a short will make regulations and make people get adopted to it. Recently one country have added bitcoin to the taxable assets list. Bitcoin killing taxes will not be much effective.
hero member
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March 05, 2017, 10:50:22 AM
As the age of cryptocurrency comes into full force, it will facilitate a subversively viable taxation avoidance strategy for many of the technically savvy users of peer-to-peer payment systems. In doing so, cryptocurrency use will act to erode the tax revenue base of national jurisdictions, and ultimately, reposition taxation as a voluntary, pay-for-performance function. In this post, I cover some of the benefits such a strategy will have for cryptocurrency investors, why our notion of taxation is ripe for disruption, and why cryptocurrency taxation is enabled by default.

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If we are going to base the situation the reality things happen now was the entire people so far majority is that many people still using banking system and fiat, but some of them are also shifting to used bitcoin too, or some of them could shifted already into the system of bitcoin. Meaning there is a possibility that income will be kill bitcoin.
legendary
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March 05, 2017, 10:06:25 AM
Its all happening now. Do you know that we are all criminals here if we are really going according to law?
We do a lot of transactions that would not go with any taxable thing. We send money that is greater than what it should be normally without even getting a lot of tax which should be. Try sending a million dollars thru Western Union and let us know what will they say.
If every transaction is unusual they are being reported and that is an example, a million dollars.
sr. member
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March 05, 2017, 10:01:21 AM
No. It won't kill income tax. The taxes we have to pay for purchases is a lot.
Even if I have to give 0.01$ to my friend , including the fees and all I will have to pay around 0.15$.
That's a lot of fees/tax. But in the near future if this problem is solved , then it might kill income tax.

I think you are wrong because the governments are aware about bitcoin and they will adapt the tax system. This is not very difficult for them cuz everything is under their control. 
hero member
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March 05, 2017, 07:54:22 AM
Bitcoin will never do that; killing the income tax because before bitcoin can do it needs government approval and if the government sees that threat then bitcoin will be ban in a country. But, If the government accepts bitcoin then they will not allow bitcoin to be free because they will use it to generate income by doing tax.
full member
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March 05, 2017, 07:13:10 AM
I don't think that it will kill income tax.
As even for very minute transactions we have to pay transaction fees.
All kinds of taxes are included in this transaction fees.
Including the income tax I think.
Income tax is very important,
Because if some part of your money doesn't go to the governing authorities,
There would no maintenance taking place.
As a result the places we live in will be a total mess.
Thus with bitcoins or without them income tax can't be avoided.
sr. member
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February 11, 2017, 11:09:07 AM
No. It won't kill income tax. The taxes we have to pay for purchases is a lot.
Even if I have to give 0.01$ to my friend , including the fees and all I will have to pay around 0.15$.
That's a lot of fees/tax. But in the near future if this problem is solved , then it might kill income tax.


There were transactions that have transaction fees , thus this fees refer also for taxes, this fees deducted were deducted also for the tax of the apps,companies or banks that were using our btc, like on sending money and cashing out. Those in built organizations pays our taxes in our behalf.
sr. member
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February 11, 2017, 11:01:15 AM
No. It won't kill income tax. The taxes we have to pay for purchases is a lot.
Even if I have to give 0.01$ to my friend , including the fees and all I will have to pay around 0.15$.
That's a lot of fees/tax. But in the near future if this problem is solved , then it might kill income tax.
hero member
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February 11, 2017, 09:27:41 AM
Nice idea overall but we are still a long way from realizing this dream. The first priority should be to increase adoption.

Yes, very long way to go for the gov to accept bitcoin.
When I look at the acceptance rate of bitcoin I realize that it is not longer away that governments will also accept it sooner. But still it will not kill the income tax as the government will create a way for themselves to collect the tax from their devised rules. It is also expected that the income tax will not be that much higher than what we earn with bitcoin.
legendary
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February 11, 2017, 09:11:53 AM
I don't agree with you. Bitcoin will not be able to kill taxes in any way. But it can create a parallel economy and we are heading towards that way only. Most of the governments are not bothered with bitcoin at this moment, but they will start taking actions on bitcoin some or other day for sure.

As of now, bitcoin is pretty underground currency as they don't have any central regulator. But one day will come when government will step up to impose tax on bitcoin transactions. But killing the income tax is far beyond the power of bitcoin.
hero member
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February 11, 2017, 12:49:01 AM
Nice idea overall but we are still a long way from realizing this dream. The first priority should be to increase adoption.

Yes, very long way to go for the gov to accept bitcoin.

You are wrong. There are already governments that has seen merits on bitcoin they are CHina, Philippines and Switzerland. China has already declared that it is the right of the citizens to own bitcoins. While the Philippine Central Bank has already announced that bitcoin is a good form of financial payment. Switzerland on the other hand has its government accepting bitcoins. With these at hand it is only a matter of time when countries will accept bitcoin as tax payment.
However that will not happen easy, the government are aware of the weaknesses when using bitcoin, they are fully concerned with the Anti Money Laundering. If you see the recent price has drop, my opinion is because of the People's Bank of China (PBOC) directing exchanges to enforce Anti Money Laundering, they are aware of the risk, and sooner or later we can feel that exchanges will be more strict in complying with government laws and regulations and will compel us to follow.
hero member
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February 11, 2017, 12:21:57 AM
Nice idea overall but we are still a long way from realizing this dream. The first priority should be to increase adoption.

Yes, very long way to go for the gov to accept bitcoin.

You are wrong. There are already governments that has seen merits on bitcoin they are CHina, Philippines and Switzerland. China has already declared that it is the right of the citizens to own bitcoins. While the Philippine Central Bank has already announced that bitcoin is a good form of financial payment. Switzerland on the other hand has its government accepting bitcoins. With these at hand it is only a matter of time when countries will accept bitcoin as tax payment.
hero member
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February 11, 2017, 12:15:43 AM
Nice idea overall but we are still a long way from realizing this dream. The first priority should be to increase adoption.

Yes, very long way to go for the gov to accept bitcoin.

Very long to go to accept bitcoin by the governments, really to adopt this new technology will take lot of time. But before that many people should start using bitcoin, we the community people should get more awareness to people who don't have any hope on bitcoin.
newbie
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February 10, 2017, 11:33:40 PM
Nice idea overall but we are still a long way from realizing this dream. The first priority should be to increase adoption.

Yes, very long way to go for the gov to accept bitcoin.
hero member
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February 10, 2017, 11:11:13 PM
the current problems we have to take a decision. because in fact the use of bitcoin can not generate taxes for the government. there should be a regulation as soon as possible to arrange this. as a good citizen would want his country to be better.

The farthest that the government can reach when it comes to taxing is the exchanges and transaction going in and out of fiat. The rest, well, they will have a hard time following tax evaders. Unless they want to take over bitcoin and starts to tax each transaction which is very highly unlikely possible. Taxing the money from exchanges is enough, too bad if they take advantage on it and put a bigger tax compared to earning fiat.  Smiley
legendary
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February 10, 2017, 11:04:42 PM
the current problems we have to take a decision. because in fact the use of bitcoin can not generate taxes for the government. there should be a regulation as soon as possible to arrange this. as a good citizen would want his country to be better.
hero member
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February 10, 2017, 10:55:31 PM
Taxes are running a nation , otherwise how a nation will run ? Roads , Hospitals .. Bcoz not every nation accepted Privatization. And even if Privatization is accepted in whole world .. Then why we need a Government ?

Government means someone having Authority to deal with things on citizens behalf , When citizens will not pay Tax then why do someone show there interest in taking that responsibility. That is the first drawback in corruption inside Politicians. Due to privatization .. Almost all Elections are funded by these Private Firms and in return they got Permissions which normal businessman can not get.

I think to run a proper nation , Taxes are required.
I agree for some countries that have no profitable state owned enterprises, taxes are required. I think the government can take taxes from sellers who accept bitcoin, by monitoring business.
I do not think so.  If they work anonymously,  how can the government collect tax  from them?  BITCOIN is decentralized and it is hard to control the number of Bitcoin users in order to have the income tax.  Therefore,  bitcoin will truly destroy the whole centralized  system and the income tax of the government
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