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legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
December 14, 2011, 11:57:51 AM
#56
Oh shit, you are just a troll.. I thought you really sent in 200 coins... You only sent in one...

Yeah.. since they have yet to receive 100 anyway. It's called humour I believe.

http://blockexplorer.com/a/5Lz5WHd44p

EDIT - though just becasue I said I sent a bitcoin how do you know how many I sent? - maybe I didn't send any and just wanted the kudos and respect of my peers.

I just want to quote this so he can't edit this later...    Also I admit I got trolled... My moral for this sort of thing is very low right now...

Isha Vasya idam sarvam (respectfully)

I see someone has been reading the Energizer Bunny post.

Now that I've gotten the morning funnies out of my system, I'll proceed to address what needs addressing in posts here and at the Bitcoin100 thread.
full member
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December 14, 2011, 11:52:22 AM
#55
They now have Bitcoins mentioned right there next to PayPal - what else could we ask for?
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Let's get this one done and start on the next one.

Precisely. We need organizations to embrace bitcoin and yet debate whether or not we should donate?
As a member of bitcoin100 I say just send them the darned coins.
donator
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December 14, 2011, 11:02:39 AM
#54
They do have a good chunk of BTC in a very short amount of time without the extra 100, but they also moved the donation link up.  It's interesting to look over the sites in the wiki that accept bitcoin donations, and their publicly available donation amounts.  Placement of the donation option does seem to have an impact on the amounts received.  Either way I think it would be good to point out in any Bitcoin100 comunications that placement of the button or address is important.  I'm really in the middle on archive.org.
hero member
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December 14, 2011, 10:36:55 AM
#53
Oh shit, you are just a troll.. I thought you really sent in 200 coins... You only sent in one...

Yeah.. since they have yet to receive 100 anyway. It's called humour I believe.

http://blockexplorer.com/a/5Lz5WHd44p

EDIT - though just becasue I said I sent a bitcoin how do you know how many I sent? - maybe I didn't send any and just wanted the kudos and respect of my peers.

I just want to quote this so he can't edit this later...    Also I admit I got trolled... My moral for this sort of thing is very low right now...

Isha Vasya idam sarvam (respectfully)
legendary
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All paid signature campaigns should be banned.
December 14, 2011, 10:33:49 AM
#52
In an ideal world here is what I would like to see:

Button [Donate through JustGive.org] we only get 95.5%
Button [Donate through PayPal] we only get 95% (or whatever the real number is)
Button [Donate using Bitcoins] we get 100% of your donation!
OR Donate using Bitcoins to 17gN64BPHtxi4mEM3qWrxdwhieUvRq8R2r and we get 100% of your donation!


Having said that, I vote we now give them the 100 BTC and here is why.  My initial concern (that the Bitcoin donation was way down at the bottom where no one could see it) has been addressed.  They now have Bitcoins mentioned right there next to PayPal - what else could we ask for?  Anyone who actually has BTC to donate can now easily get their address.

What we want is publicity, right.  What better thing to be able to splash, tweet, etc. than "Archive.org got 445.04892494 Bitcoins, worth over $1300, in less than a week after simply adding Bitcoin to their donation options"

We can do this by adding our 100 to the 345.04892494 they already have.  So already having 345.04892494 donated only amplifies the effect of our 100 BTC - it does not diminish it.

We are all in this for the long haul and we have 99 more charities to go, right?

Finally, at the end of the day we are talking about just $312 $320 $319 here...

Let's get this one done and start on the next one.
hero member
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December 14, 2011, 10:17:15 AM
#51
Oh shit, you are just a troll.. I thought you really sent in 200 coins... You only sent in one...

Yeah.. since they have yet to receive 100 anyway. It's called humour I believe.

http://blockexplorer.com/a/5Lz5WHd44p

EDIT - though just becasue I said I sent a bitcoin how do you know how many I sent? - maybe I didn't send any and just wanted the kudos and respect of my peers.
hero member
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December 14, 2011, 10:05:43 AM
#50
This public vote is a scam!   Only people in the Bitcoin100 can vote.  So that means Gage has to send a PM to each member asking for their response.  And at that time he can include the message that from now on, if they want to be in any votes, they have to keep an eye on the main Bitcoin100 thread, so he doesn't have to spam everyone again lol

im losing faith in this due to lack of organization/clarity...

Your realise that was a joke - no one has received a message etc.

Yeah...

Should we all have a vote based on the number of bitcoins we sent? Cos I sent 200. Since it's anonymous who knows who sent what anyway? And the vote isn't a binding agreement and it really doesn't matter for the sake of $3 (or $600 in my case).
I'm sure the people maintaining the wallet will happily refund you your bitcoin if you ask them. The people involved in this are not scammers and are not playing games.



Why do you think they are scammers?? There is no need for that sort of talk. However they should clearly get their plan down and express it a bit better. I had no idea public voting would be going on. If you want a refund I'm sure they will respond to you. I'm happy they keep what I pledged but I will read the fine print in the future...




There was no fine print - it's just a loose idea expressed on an internet discussion board between like minded(ish) people.
If you don't want to be involved then don't be involved - I think everyone who put their name forward, on the whole knew, that it wasn't clear how it would pan out or how it would work or how it would be organised. It was just the seed of an idea that we hoped would flourish into something interesting. And I personally have no doubts that it will grow into something that is worth supporting.
hero member
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December 14, 2011, 09:52:11 AM
#49
This public vote is a scam!   Only people in the Bitcoin100 can vote.  So that means Gage has to send a PM to each member asking for their response.  And at that time he can include the message that from now on, if they want to be in any votes, they have to keep an eye on the main Bitcoin100 thread, so he doesn't have to spam everyone again lol

im losing faith in this due to lack of organization/clarity...

Your realise that was a joke - no one has received a message etc.

Yeah...

Should we all have a vote based on the number of bitcoins we sent? Cos I sent 200. Since it's anonymous who knows who sent what anyway? And the vote isn't a binding agreement and it really doesn't matter for the sake of $3 (or $600 in my case).
I'm sure the people maintaining the wallet will happily refund you your bitcoin if you ask them. The people involved in this are not scammers and are not playing games.

hero member
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Merit: 1002
December 14, 2011, 09:32:39 AM
#48
This public vote is a scam!   Only people in the Bitcoin100 can vote.  So that means Gage has to send a PM to each member asking for their response.  And at that time he can include the message that from now on, if they want to be in any votes, they have to keep an eye on the main Bitcoin100 thread, so he doesn't have to spam everyone again lol

im losing faith in this due to lack of organization/clarity...

Your realise that was a joke - no one has received a message etc.
hero member
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Posts: 69
December 14, 2011, 09:12:22 AM
#47
Well hopefully all users will keep in mind they put in a pledge for a purpose, and now approaching the first possible donation, we are able to see these little issues that need to be mended.  Growing pains, keep the faith, Gage will make good Smiley
hero member
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December 14, 2011, 09:08:00 AM
#46
This public vote is a scam!   Only people in the Bitcoin100 can vote.  So that means Gage has to send a PM to each member asking for their response.  And at that time he can include the message that from now on, if they want to be in any votes, they have to keep an eye on the main Bitcoin100 thread, so he doesn't have to spam everyone again lol
legendary
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December 14, 2011, 09:02:52 AM
#45
Yes, cause I thought I've noticed a couple of people saying they changed their vote, and this is pretty damn close.   But then everyone would have to be alerted to re-vote if they did so already.  Or start a new poll.  I think this is how those elections got fucked up when Bush was put in office or something lol
We can wait until the amount of votes is similar to what it is now. But it will be done faster the sooner we have a new vote.
hero member
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December 14, 2011, 08:59:09 AM
#44
Could an admin/moderator restart the poll so we don't have to wait until Phinnaeus comes back? We need to get a decision done asap that reflects the current situation.

Yes, cause I thought I've noticed a couple of people saying they changed their vote, and this is pretty damn close.   But then everyone would have to be alerted to re-vote if they did so already.  Or start a new poll.  I think this is how those elections got fucked up when Bush was put in office or something lol
legendary
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December 14, 2011, 08:54:10 AM
#43
Could an admin/moderator restart the poll so we don't have to wait until Phinnaeus comes back? We need to get a decision done asap that reflects the current situation.
hero member
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December 14, 2011, 08:53:30 AM
#42
while it doesn't feel right to punish them for accepting Bitcoin on their own, the fact is that they don't need the extra incentive

This to me is all the more reason why they should be chosen as the first place to donate Bitcoin.  They are huge.  They don't need any extra incentive or what not.  We aren't here to promote them though, we are here to promote Bitcoin.    

It works on so many levels too, you have the actual Archive.org staff who will not be checking shit out, the general web users of Archive.org, which I would say if you are using that site in the first place, most likely you know how to use a computer.  That site doesn't come up on an AOL front page, that site is for people who are on their computers and have some kind of use where they got to the point of using Archive.org.  Their backing is the backing of smarter users.

Now I know this does not please scammers and people who are into Bitcoin for a quick buck, but for all you people who want Bitcoin to succeed in the long run, having Bitcoin incorporated and accepted as a regular part of Archive.org screams legitimacy.   For every person saying "uh.. that internet money is just used to buy drugs" will now have another bigger site to point to saying they use it to.   I think I may be misunderstanding something, but I see only big positives if the majority were to vote for Archive.org as the first to kick start this donation thing.  
hero member
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December 14, 2011, 08:45:25 AM
#41
i gave them bitcoin.. 4.5% did not go to them?Huh wtf?Huh  this is bull shit.. this is why i hate charity...
If you gave bitcoin, everything went to them. If you used a different option they supplied, like the justgive.org thing, then it takes a fee.
They got all the bitcoin.
hero member
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December 14, 2011, 08:36:28 AM
#40
A million times yes.  Archive.org is the perfect foundation to use as a focus for the Bitcoin100.  No better start than a site that does nothing more than ensure we cannot forget or change history.   I vote my first pledge goes to Archive.org.
legendary
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December 14, 2011, 08:22:30 AM
#39
We should restart this vote now that archive.org decided to change the position of the Bitcoin donation link. This changes things in my mind.
donator
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December 14, 2011, 07:20:35 AM
#38
Voted "no". I would suggest using this wallet to guaranteed 100 BTC fund in the first week after a charity start accepting Bitcoin.
hero member
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December 14, 2011, 07:15:28 AM
#37
I voted no
because the Archive is an excellent campaign but it is not the bitcoin100 ;p I just think the bitcoin100 should stick to it's guns on promoting to as many 'charaties' as possible.

  I did notice that Archive.org added the donate to bitcoin link to their donate page now. That is awesome. But it is just a fine start. I think the Archive campaign should suggest they further simplify it for their donators by making it a 'button'.  Bit-pay or similar have buttons for donating now right?

Edit; Justgive charges them 4.5% from each donation. shame shame.

   Cheers,
    Derek

Possibly seen on a future charitable organization's donation page:

By choosing Bitcoin as a donation option, we incur no transfer fees, therefore 100% of your donation are belong to us (or something like that).


By choosing Bitcoin as your donation option, we incur no transfer fees. Therefore 100% of your donation is received in kind, keeping the spirit of giving going to those in need.
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