I just did what I promised and sold 100 BTC at $0.20 each. Most of the bids were way over that but 2 lucky people bid exactly that amount and made off quite well. I will do the same thing with 1000 BTC at $0.40 on May, 1st.
You can see the list of trades here: https://www.bitcoin2cash.com/json/trades.php
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Why OpenID?
Also, I forgot to mention that if you use Google's version of OpenID with your Google account you can have two-factor authentication which makes this the most secure exchange at the moment, unless someone else has two-factor authentication or is also using OpenID.
Read more about it: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/02/advanced-sign-in-security-for-your.html
Also, Google provides the ability to use one-time-passwords which is useful if you need to use an insecure network or a limited browser.
In spirit I accept this wager but practically we need some standard of proof. I can't think of any way to be sure that he is doing any trades.
Until we can agree on that, I can't see this working. Ideas?
S
Until we can agree on that, I can't see this working. Ideas?
S
I'll attempt to perform an exchange after 45 days.
I can't seem to login... I just put my gmail email in there right? ie: [email protected]?
No, you put in https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id because we will never know your email address, only a random string that Google sends back after you login.
What's wrong?
nothing, just embarassed
Oh, well there's no need. OpenID is still not that popular even though lots of big names are backing it. It's no surprise that a lot of people aren't used to it.
I can't seem to login... I just put my gmail email in there right? ie: [email protected]?
No, you put in https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id because we will never know your email address, only a random string that Google sends back after you login.
What's wrong?
nothing, just embarassed
I can't seem to login... I just put my gmail email in there right? ie: [email protected]?
No, you put in https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id because we will never know your email address, only a random string that Google sends back after you login.
What's wrong?
I can't seem to login... I just put my gmail email in there right? ie: [email protected]?
No, you put in https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id because we will never know your email address, only a random string that Google sends back after you login.
I can't seem to login... I just put my gmail email in there right? ie: [email protected]?
No, you put in https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id because we will never know your email address, only a random string that Google sends back after you login.
I can't seem to login... I just put my gmail email in there right? ie: [email protected]?
As a side note: does anyone know what happened to BitPredict (Bitcoin Prediction Market)?
The project is open source and I don't give up very easily. Eventually, I will return to the project.
P.S. For those who are worried about my ability to complete the Automata RTS project, I will have a completed project soon(http://jstet.kibabase.com/jstet.html for those who's interested) that demonstrate my ability to complete projects despite no discipline and deadline. I will deliver a roadmap that will details what I want to complete, though I don't know how long the project will take to mature to beta and that will be my deadline. Blogging about my progress each day will be my discipline.
In spirit I accept this wager but practically we need some standard of proof. I can't think of any way to be sure that he is doing any trades.
As a side note: does anyone know what happened to BitPredict (Bitcoin Prediction Market)?
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Don't care. Didn't read it. Now ignoring you. Bye.
How childish.
I'm glad you've studied law. Next, you should study business.
The study of commercial law includes the studying of business if you branch out far enough. You seem to know how much law I've studied. I'm in complete awe at your false assumptions.
So because I may or may not voluntarily spend my personal assets therefore I should open myself up to
involuntarily losing my personal assets? That's ridiculous. The point is to mitigate or mimimize risk. As an individual, I would be forced to fight a legal battle with my personal assets or get a default judgment and lose my personal assets. As an LLC, I could opt for the default judgment, close the business down permanently and still keep my personal assets.
involuntarily losing my personal assets? That's ridiculous. The point is to mitigate or mimimize risk. As an individual, I would be forced to fight a legal battle with my personal assets or get a default judgment and lose my personal assets. As an LLC, I could opt for the default judgment, close the business down permanently and still keep my personal assets.
You're assuming that you are, in fact, sued by an 'anonymous' customer. You're also assuming that it isn't some government agency wielding a criminal charge/investigation. If both *highly* unlikely statements are true, you would be right.
What plans do you have for your active customers if you opt for a default judgment? Return the cash? Lose it all to lawyers? I'm sure your customers would like to know.
The longer you talk to me the more it's obvious that your advice is worthless at best and harmful at worst. Please, just stop talking to me. You're advice is unwanted and unneeded. Thanks.
Actually, it is educational to everyone who cares to read it. You are thinking only of yourself.
Don't care. Didn't read it. Now ignoring you. Bye.
I'm glad you've studied law. Next, you should study business.
The study of commercial law includes the studying of business if you branch out far enough. You seem to know how much law I've studied. I'm in complete awe at your false assumptions.
So because I may or may not voluntarily spend my personal assets therefore I should open myself up to
involuntarily losing my personal assets? That's ridiculous. The point is to mitigate or mimimize risk. As an individual, I would be forced to fight a legal battle with my personal assets or get a default judgment and lose my personal assets. As an LLC, I could opt for the default judgment, close the business down permanently and still keep my personal assets.
involuntarily losing my personal assets? That's ridiculous. The point is to mitigate or mimimize risk. As an individual, I would be forced to fight a legal battle with my personal assets or get a default judgment and lose my personal assets. As an LLC, I could opt for the default judgment, close the business down permanently and still keep my personal assets.
You're assuming that you are, in fact, sued by an 'anonymous' customer. You're also assuming that it isn't some government agency wielding a criminal charge/investigation. If both *highly* unlikely statements are true, you would be right.
What plans do you have for your active customers if you opt for a default judgment? Return the cash? Lose it all to lawyers? I'm sure your customers would like to know.
The longer you talk to me the more it's obvious that your advice is worthless at best and harmful at worst. Please, just stop talking to me. You're advice is unwanted and unneeded. Thanks.
Actually, it is educational to everyone who cares to read it. You are thinking only of yourself.
You were not trying to mail out cash (only receive it) until now.
The name of my business is bitcoin2cash... bitcoin to cash... you turn bitcoins into cash... you give me bitcoins, I give you cash... by mail.
Here's the google cache as evidence: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:f00HWY8tmVAJ:bitcoin2cash.com
If you don't know what you're talking about then don't make wild assertions. It only makes you look ignorant.
The funniest part is that I've already been in business since July of 2010. This is just a site redesign. It's not really a new service other than the automation. I've been sending/receiving cash for quite a while now.
Here's proof: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17158
Maybe I shouldn't have said anything but I can't, in good conscience, let you take nanaimogold's money like that. Unless of course, it's me doing it.
Here's proof: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17158
Maybe I shouldn't have said anything but I can't, in good conscience, let you take nanaimogold's money like that. Unless of course, it's me doing it.
Yes, I remember. You are that address in Alabama that some folks complained was losing mail. You were not trying to mail out cash (only receive it) until now. As I recall, we suggested that you not use the word "cash" on your mail.
Anyway, I'm not interested in spending time discovering your past. You are not going to succeed in mailing cash to people. In the least you will get joed and your reputation smeared.
Good Luck!
I can't think of any way to be sure that he is doing any trades.
How about, doing a trade?
Generally, horses are not permitted to bet on their own races. There is nothing to stop you from pretending to remain in business past 45 days just to win the bet.
The offer to bet must be limited to those not involved with your enterprise.
Any takers?
The offer to bet must be limited to those not involved with your enterprise.
Any takers?
I'll take your bet for 50 BTC.
I think you and MadHatter are right, and I don't think mailing out cash is sustainable, but I think it can last more than 45 days.
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In spirit I accept this wager but practically we need some standard of proof. I can't think of any way to be sure that he is doing any trades.
Until we can agree on that, I can't see this working. Ideas?
S
Then you have no business giving anyone advice on how to run a business. That's an unnecessary risk which is not the kind of thing an entrepreneur should be doing.
I have ran many large corporations in the past and I've studied law for many years. I'm not a charlatan.
I didn't say you were a charlatan. I just said you're taking an unnecessary risk and that's not the kind of thing an entrepreneur should be doing. I'm glad you've studied law. Next, you should study business.
It's only unnecessary if I don't mind putting my personal assets at risk for lawsuits or debts, which I do.
An 'anonymous' customer isn't going to sue and reveal who they are. They are going to complain in public.
When someone uses your service to purchase drugs from Silk Road, expect the police... eventually. (Investigators always follow the money.) Your LLC will not help you at all in this case.
In the highly unlikely event that you do end up in a legal battle, the profits from your service will not cover the legal fees. You'll end up paying them out of pocket anyway. So much for protecting your personal assets, as you'll end up spending them voluntarily.
So because I may or may not voluntarily spend my personal assets therefore I should open myself up to involuntarily losing my personal assets? That's ridiculous. The point is to mitigate or mimimize risk. As an individual, I would be forced to fight a legal battle with my personal assets or get a default judgment and lose my personal assets. As an LLC, I could opt for the default judgment, close the business down permanently and still keep my personal assets.
The longer you talk to me the more it's obvious that your advice is worthless at best and harmful at worst. Please, just stop talking to me. You're advice is unwanted and unneeded. Thanks.
Then you have no business giving anyone advice on how to run a business. That's an unnecessary risk which is not the kind of thing an entrepreneur should be doing.
I have ran many large corporations in the past and I've studied law for many years. I'm not a charlatan.
It's only unnecessary if I don't mind putting my personal assets at risk for lawsuits or debts, which I do.
An 'anonymous' customer isn't going to sue and reveal who they are. They are going to complain in public.
When someone uses your service to purchase drugs from Silk Road, expect the police... eventually. (Investigators always follow the money.) Your LLC will not help you at all in this case.
In the highly unlikely event that you do end up in a legal battle, the profits from your service will not cover the legal fees. You'll end up paying them out of pocket anyway. So much for protecting your personal assets, as you'll end up spending them voluntarily.
I've already addressed this. Profit is only one possible motive. The satisfaction of acting superior is another possibility. It's a fallacious reasoning to assume that just because there are little profits to be made that people won't be vindictive for other reasons. Some people just like acting like they are king of the hill.
Good. Profit shouldn't be your motive. There isn't any. This only strengthens my point above.
Thank you and thanks to everyone else that's given me constructive input and been humble about it rather than kicking sand in my face.
Don't be so dramatic. You have been offered suggestions from people who are actually doing large volumes of cash in the mail. We are simply pointing out the pitfalls that you need to be aware of. We want to see Bitcoin successful; just as you do. Getting hostile towards people that are trying to help you is really uncalled for.
Anyway, I wish you the best luck and I won't be participating in the betting.
With no ill will or vexation,
The Madhatter
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