Bitcoin.com uses bitcoin cash as default currency - page 3.

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Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on July 13, 2020, 01:31:21 AM

https://www.bitcoin.com/

Why does it put it as default? Are the owners of the site, owners of bitcoin cash as well?

This site is owned by the people who supported the forking of bitcoin to bitcoin cash and the CEO is Roger Ver, who was once a big spokesperson for bitcoin and now is supporting bitcoin cash for his own reasons. The main website for bitcoin is actually bitcoin.org and bitcointalk too, both owned by Cobra which are the official websites for bitcoin, whereas bitcoin.com isn't official at all. But most of the people always search for a .com domain so they land upon the domain that accepts bitcoin cash as a default currency.

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Satoshi should have bought bitcoin.com, with a simple redirection to the org.

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Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on July 13, 2020, 05:06:31 AM

What's the point of a bitcoin fork anyway? I had heard that it's centralized too.

To make a pump and dump coin for the newbie to fall to. Just look at how confusing this Bitcoin.com is and Bitcoin Cash. Using the name of Bitcoin to lure new investors into thinking that they are investing to Bitcoin itself. Some might even think that Bitcoin is the technology and Bitcoin Cash is the currency because of the word cash in it.

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Quote from: Wind_FURY on July 13, 2020, 05:53:25 AM

OP, besides what everyone has already said, that site's goal is also to gaslight you from the truth, to make you QUESTION Bitcoin, but TAKE your Bitcoin, and exchange it for a forked-shitcoin. Haha.

And that's another negative bitcoin has. Besides the other fears you have with bitcoin (fake giveaways, scams etc), there are people that will try to steal them by making you investing on them. Indirectly.

I really don't blame people that malign bitcoin. Is it money for smart and careful people.

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OP, besides what everyone has already said, that site's goal is also to gaslight you from the truth, to make you QUESTION Bitcoin, but TAKE your Bitcoin, and exchange it for a forked-shitcoin. Haha.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on July 13, 2020, 04:53:10 AM

@Yaunfitda I remember this very well because Roger had the audacity to term Bitcoin Cash as the real bitcoin, and due to this many people ended up buying his worthless coin, and then they regretted their purchases later on but it was too late as BCH prices crashed and they were stuck with a fake bitcoin. @Lucius indeed he tried unsuccessfully to fool people that Bitcoin Cash was the real Bitcoin, and he was supposed to be sued for this, but then the case never really materialised, and he escaped punishment for fooling people and playing with their sentiments.

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https://www.crowdfundinsider.com/2018/04/132699-bitcoin-users-may-sue-bitcoin-cash-and-its-ceo-roger-ver-for-brand-overlap/

I still remember those days wherein we are under attack from Ver and his co-conspirators. Crazy times but they are unsuccessful and so other attempts to overthrow BTC, like the so called Flippening (ETH) and Rippening (Ripple). BCH though remain in the crypto sphere but they will never achieved their main goal.

@BlackHatCoiner - regarding Bitcoin forks, here is one prime example why they are very prone to 51% attack. A Bitcoin fork, known as Bitcoin Gold has been attack again, the third time: https://bitcoingold.org/emergency-update-0-17-2/

Also for those who are interested, you may want to read my thread here: How many confirmations are equivalent* to 6 Bitcoin confirmations?.

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What's the point of a bitcoin fork anyway? I had heard that it's centralized too.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on July 13, 2020, 04:06:53 AM

This is no secret, the people behind that website is pro BCH and it mislead a lot of newbies. If you have been long enough, you will see threads after threads about newbies thinking that it's BTC that they are getting and they go on a lot of problems. And they don't want to mentioned BTC, they call it Bitcoin Core, LOL. And according to them the real BTC is Bitcoin Cash.

@Lucius has a good thread about it, How Not To Buy Fake BTC!.

Quote from: Lucius on July 13, 2020, 04:36:30 AM

Not only they are pro BCH, but they tried to destroy BTC with a massive spam attack on the BTC blockchain, and at the same time by pumping up the price of BCH - I think the price difference back then was only some $2000 in favor of BTC.

For all those who missed the show, I recommend reading the chronology of events, and here you can see who of the more influential people turned their backs on the real BTC and supported the copy.

BTC vs BCH. Full chronics of epic battle for cryptocurrency domination - 2017

@Yaunfitda I remember this very well because Roger had the audacity to term Bitcoin Cash as the real bitcoin, and due to this many people ended up buying his worthless coin, and then they regretted their purchases later on but it was too late as BCH prices crashed and they were stuck with a fake bitcoin. @Lucius indeed he tried unsuccessfully to fool people that Bitcoin Cash was the real Bitcoin, and he was supposed to be sued for this, but then the case never really materialised, and he escaped punishment for fooling people and playing with their sentiments.

Source:

https://www.crowdfundinsider.com/2018/04/132699-bitcoin-users-may-sue-bitcoin-cash-and-its-ceo-roger-ver-for-brand-overlap/

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BlackHatCoiner, if this is not a problem for you, put the link in the code - we don't want to advertise this site more than necessary, and we certainly want to prevent people who don't understand the difference between the original Bitcoin and all the forks from buying something fake.

Quote from: Yaunfitda on July 13, 2020, 04:06:53 AM

This is no secret, the people behind that website is pro BCH and it mislead a lot of newbies. And according to them the real BTC is Bitcoin Cash.

Not only they are pro BCH, but they tried to destroy BTC with a massive spam attack on the BTC blockchain, and at the same time by pumping up the price of BCH - I think the price difference back then was only some $2000 in favor of BTC.

For all those who missed the show, I recommend reading the chronology of events, and here you can see who of the more influential people turned their backs on the real BTC and supported the copy.

BTC vs BCH. Full chronics of epic battle for cryptocurrency domination - 2017

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Roger Ver owns that domain and he's also the one who made the bitcoin fork, bitcoin cash.

So don't be caught with their misleading claim. Btw, their forum is closing soon.

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This is no secret, the people behind that website is pro BCH and it mislead a lot of newbies. If you have been long enough, you will see threads after threads about newbies thinking that it's BTC that they are getting and they go on a lot of problems. And they don't want to mentioned BTC, they call it Bitcoin Core, LOL. And according to them the real BTC is Bitcoin Cash.

@Lucius has a good thread about it, How Not To Buy Fake BTC!.

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Quote from: Rikafip on July 13, 2020, 01:59:27 AM

How can someone buy BCH and think that he is buying BTC is beyond me, considering the huge difference in price. I mean, if you buy BCH thinking that you are actually buying BTC, but discounted for 97% (and not questioning yourself how can that be possible) you will have hard time in crypto. Hell, even on that website they make distinction between those two.

They deposit fiat and buy bitcoin. If they can differentiate this, I think they would not be scammed. The problem is most people looking fot buying bitcoin to pay something go to bitcoin.com (as we have a tendency that dotcom is the authentic site) and buy so called bitcoin without knowing that they are BCH actually. And you can find a lot of threads where newbies complain that they buy Bitcoin on bitcoin.com and sent to their address but not received. Because they bought BCH and send them to BTC wallet. I think bitcoin.com is liable for all this.

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Quote from: Rikafip on July 13, 2020, 01:59:27 AM

How can someone buy BCH and think that he is buying BTC is beyond me, considering the huge difference in price. I mean, if you buy BCH thinking that you are actually buying BTC, but discounted for 97% (and not questioning yourself how can that be possible) you will have hard time in crypto. Hell, even on that website they make distinction between those two.

Its possible because their information misleading buyers. When a buyer want to buy bitcoin then he have to use credit/debit card. That's the reason the price calculations will be in usd during buy process. So sometimes buyers just concentrate on USD amount instead of deeply look on btc/bch amount. And after bought eventually they received BCH instead of BTC. I can't recall the story but there is some claim about that buyers received BCH on his BTC address after bought. It's a mistake by buyers they hadn't noticed deeply the amount of BTC/BCH.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on July 13, 2020, 01:44:37 AM

Many newbies think that they buy Bitcoin for cheap and when they send bcash to a Bitcoin address come here asking what has happened.

How can someone buy BCH and think that he is buying BTC is beyond me, considering the huge difference in price. I mean, if you buy BCH thinking that you are actually buying BTC, but discounted for 97% (and not questioning yourself how can that be possible) you will have hard time in crypto. Hell, even on that website they make distinction between those two.

Then again, people are still sending money to BTC doublers, so I guess everything is possible.

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Roger Ver is a known anti-bitcoin advocate since long ago. His gripe with the bitcoin community was that most people didn't support the solutions for scaling that he also supported.
He has since been pumping his money to promote a forked bitcoin, that he tries to promote as the real bitcoin.

Partners of Roger Ver have also promoted BCash through their businesses. For example, known scammer Erik Voorhees turned his business, satoshi-dice, into a BCash-only gambling platform. He and Ver have worked together on many ventures like for example the failed KryptoKit wallet.

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Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on July 13, 2020, 01:31:21 AM

https://www.bitcoin.com/

Why does it put it as default? Are the owners of the site, owners of bitcoin cash as well?

The main website for Bitcoin is bitcoin.org (!).
The .com website is a commercial website owned by somebody who made (forked) the altcoin called Bitcoin Cash and selling it as "the true bitcoin" to all unaware newbies and to the ones believing his fantasies.

Many newbies think that they buy Bitcoin for cheap and when they send bcash to a Bitcoin address come here asking what has happened.

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Yes, that is so. The CEO of the bitcoin.com site is Roger Ver and co-Founder of Bitcoin cash.

Please see this reference for how it started
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin_Cash
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Ver#Cryptocurrency

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https://www.bitcoin.com/

Why does it put it as default? Are the owners of the site, owners of bitcoin cash as well?

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