Topic: bitcoin.org and weusecoins.com in other languages - page 2. (Read 6103 times)

No, that's not worked like you think. There is a simple, deterministic matching scheme to convert Traditional Chinese to Simplified Chinese. Actually they are the same language, just some characters are written differently. They share the same grammar. Therefore, it is not even "translation". It's just "conversion".

jl2012, I'm not interested in machine translation for exactly the reason youve stated. I'm looking for persons fluent in a particular language to translate a technical geek site.

If I trusted Google's machine translation then youd already see more languages available on bitaddress.

I'm working on a suggestion to allow a single multi-language website while not putting more job in the hands of Stefan..

This is a very long story.

Q: Is one of those forms more widely used?
A: Simplified

Q: Can most Chinese read both?
A: I think so

However, some traditional Chinese users (mostly in Taiwan and Hong Kong) would feel irritated by simplified Chinese as they see it as a mean of cultural oppression of the Chinese Communist government, and call it "broken Chinese". (Just imagine your government publishes a "Simplified English scheme" and forces everyone in your country write in shorthand).

Anyway, to respect all Chinese speakers, I prefer to offer both versions. That would not be too trouble to maintain both version because there are tools (e.g. M$ Word and many online converters) to convert between them. Actually I will translate it to Traditional and convert it to Simplified with one click. Automatic conversion from Simplified to Traditional may lead to some funny consequences. For example, "dry" and "fxxk" are represented by the same character "干" in Simplified Chinese, where in Traditional Chinese they are "乾" and "幹" respectively. Therefore, don't surprised if you see a menu like this in China:

Pardon my ignorance regarding Simple vs Traditional Chinese... is one of those forms more widely used? Can most Chinese read both? Ideally to make ongoing translation maintenance easier we would just pick one form... the more well known :-)

Don't worry about github. Just copy the JSON from the text area in the link I provided. Do the translation and send it to me via private message on the forum.

I agree. But I think Stefan is super-busy, so it may be more efficient to do things separately.

I don't think having different domain names for different languages is a good idea. There should be one centralized website for different languages

Hi. I did the weusecoins.jp site.

I was holding off doing translations in other languages because I can't answer emails in a language I can't speak.

jl2012: If you can translate the site text into Chinese, and get a domain name, I can open-source it on Github and put it online.

Anyone else: If you can translate the site at a native level and get a domain name - I can help you getting the site online.

I can help translating to Chinese (both simple and traditional) but I don't know how to use github

I'm searching for someone to translate bitaddress.org into french. See here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=139612.new

I'm also looking for someone to translate it into Chinese (simple or traditional... you pick).

There is an English JSON at the bottom of this page:
https://www.bitaddress.org/bitaddress.org-v2.3-SHA1-1d067dc4f3103622ca9de332c3c86fc57d76ec83.html?unittests=true

For the person who provides the majority of translations for a respective language your Bitcoin address will be included in the
"footerlabeltranslatedby" variable.

It is preferred if you provide the translations as a pull request on github but it is not required.
https://github.com/pointbiz/bitaddress.org

Presentation is everything. There is already amazing work done and I believe it would be a shame that bitcoin.org and weusecoins only get a restricted audience. Official Bitcoin client and blockchain.info are now internationalized. I think it's time to do the same with Bitcoin online presentation.

Stefan Thomas is most probably working on things that really requires him. So I suggest that he delegates this part to the Bitcoin community. After all, I'm sure that we have, on this forum, many people speaking many languages that would be willing to participate. That of course, if they agree.

Here is 3 things that probably need consideration :

Social network / news integration (twitter, bitcoinwatch, etc)
Those are all pure english from now. It could be necessary to remove them until localized groups / news websites / blogs emerge.
Or to find appropriate existing replacement, if possible.

StackExchange integration
StackExchange provides many questions / answers, but english only and cannot be translated.
So it would most likely require a static equivalence that could be translated.

Future updates
The way each website is translated should not be too structure dependent, so if we don't find a translator for a specific language in the future, it will still be possible to update the content of the pages for all languages except the few problematic ones.

I would gladly offer myself to make bitcoin.org or weusecoins.com multilanguage and provide french translations myself.


This is fragmentation. Not bad in itself, but working in team in such a case always create more powerful results. And since the content is MIT and CC licenced, it does not represent a single point of failure, even if it does a bit of centralization.

You know you don't need to ask permission. Just make a translated site and promote it. If it's good enough maybe the devs will see it and link to it. Nobody needs to ask anything with Bitcoin. Nobody controls it. Just do what you like and the free market will sort it out. The devs are often too busy for administrative decisions.

LOL! I laughed

Google translation may become acceptable 20 years later, but definitely not at this moment.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_5-JtnlhAI9s/SvGOFWxxxFI/AAAAAAAAAIM/X9kv9wtehII/s400/fuck+the+certain+price+of+goods.jpg

I would like to contribute for french translation

So chinese dont have google translator? A shame..

2 weeks gone and no reply from devs. Who is currently holding the bitcoin.org?

Yeah, an automatic translation can make an otherwise professional website look extremely amateurish. It could be better than nothing but then you should probably make your reader aware of the fact that it is an automatic translation and that you know that it is of low quality.

Yes this is something that is definitely needed for more bitcoin information in especially the major foreign languages.

I could help with the Chinese and Malay/Indonesian translation too if needed.