bitcoin.org , in danger of being compromised?? - page 2.

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That smell the fanboy when you write a comment to defend cobra, that's all. He's right to lie about a company and to fire someone the same day, but he's a good person

no, don't tell me that. Don't tell me sh*t like this. Thank you Wink

Respect me, don't lie to me.

Via our exchange you have proven yourself to be a man of conviction, diligence and generosity of spirit. You have a supercomputer for a mind, the body of Flo Jo, the wealth of a thousand Buffets yet you wear your superiority lightly as you walk amongst us like a God from Olympus.

I've never respected another human more in my entire life. I also fear you.

But the request to come up with something, anything still stands.

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So you post a comment to say "bitch" only and you have nothing to say ? Cheesy

I don't see your arguments about Cobra though. You still didn't explain how he is a liar.

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When i see your post about how you think that Bill Gates created the coronavirus, you are worthless for anyone on this planet Cheesy

Tchaooo
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54054038

Why don't you come to my thread and explain how he is an angel then? I'd like to hear your super educated factoids.

Didn't you fuck off already?

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So ask cobra to prove what he said about the intention of the Mozilla Firefox compagny, he and you would better have some compelling factoids

Let's see them

Why don't you tell us what he said about it? You seem to know.

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That smell the fanboy when you write a comment to defend cobra, that's all. He's right to lie about a company and to fire someone the same day, but he's a good person

no, don't tell me that. Don't tell me sh*t like this. Thank you Wink

Respect me, don't lie to me.

Bitching.

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I won't reply anymore because it's not a debate, there are some facts that doesn't lie while the cobra lies (the only one thing he said about mozilla firefox make him untrustable, when you talk like that without having the truth then you are untrustable about the rest)

And more bitching.

Bon voyage.

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Well having a good website might really interest someone to own it. I do believe that this is all abouy how one could earn in that prestigious site. It could be diverted to treasure hunting when one with interest could own the website. Remember that we are not talking here an ordinary website. It is for bitcoin which is one of the website having a huge money with the bitcoins.

I do hope that bitcoin and the sites could not be influence with people having negative interest.

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Please, list his "successful operation" and prove me it. Thank you very much Wink

Anyway it doesn't mean anything, a lot of people are doing a lot of good things in order to scam you in the end. Don't talk to me like you talk at a sheep.

'Successful operation' means the website has been up, visible and run for the right reasons from the moment it launched. That has been the case since 2009. There has never been any suggestion it has attempted to mislead people.

He's a bit of a weirdo and possibly several people but not a scammer.

If you're going to claim otherwise and claim something that no one else ever has then you'd better have some compelling factoids. Let's see them.

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And what about the fact that cobra is using bitcoin.org to ask donations and also that he put a new bitcoin address since June ? this guy look more like a scammer and a very untrustable person according to multiple facts. Bitcoin.org should not be used to ask donations.

Please list the 'multiple facts'.

He can point to many years of successful operation and the, sometimes, grudging respect of many people who are respected themselves.

As for donations, no one is forced to donate and most Bitcoin fans are too mean anyway. There has always been a donation address on there.

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Quote from: StonerStanley on July 01, 2020, 02:17:37 AM

I hate that kind of persons who are abusing their power.

Abuse which power? He owns the domain.

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Bitcoin.org should not be used to ask donations.

Again, He owns the domain. He can do whatever the fuck he wants with it. All you can do is bitching.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on June 30, 2020, 04:04:33 PM

It works almost like official website of Bitcoin.

The thing though, is that it isn't. It doesn't matter whether Cobra or theymos has ownership, you can never write off the possibility that it becomes compromised. I get that it can suck to have no "official" Bitcoin resource, but that's probably for the best -- look at @Bitcoin on twitter and how much drama that used to cause (well it still does but on the opposite camp now lol).

And since it seems like you're lobbying for theymos, it may be relevant to show his insight on a similar matter:

Quote from: theymos on April 18, 2020, 01:41:06 PM

The ideal solution would be to somehow stop people from considering centralized sites like bitcoin.org/bitcoin.com/etc. as "important", but that's not going to happen. Even if you got everyone to switch to btcinformation.org or whatever, then you'd be creating a new important centralized site which would eventually be corrupted. (Not to say that such an effort is pointless, though, if you don't like bitcoin.org.) All we can do about this situation is to just individually try our best:
- If you see something about bitcoin.org (or another site) that you don't like, try to get it changed.
- If you don't like bitcoin.org (or another site) or you don't like the way that it's managed, point people to a different site instead, or create your own.
- If you end up controlling an "important site", try to keep it operating in the most correct way that you can, for as long as possible.

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Quote from: davis196 on June 30, 2020, 06:06:39 AM

This is some weird drama.Some questions are popping up in my head:
Why is Cobra anonymous,while this guy (Will Binns) isn't anonymous?Why is Cobra hiding his identity?

For the same reason satoshi hides his.

Which reason ?
I will tell you why: because he is nobody and has no skill, so he prefer stay anonymous (and he'd better, because he's uesless)

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Quote from: LTU_btc on June 30, 2020, 04:04:33 PM

Cobra is mysterious person and I don't have big trust in him. Especially after these tweets mentioned above in past.

just because someone has a different opinion than you, it is not a reason to not-trust them even if that opinion were wrong.
conversely having the same opinion as you doesn't make someone trustworthy (wolf in sheep clothing).

This is why cobra isn't trustable, he fired and "not-trust" someone just because this person had a different opinion on something that isn't relevant.
I would never believe or work with a person like that, he his full of pretention like his words on the Mozilla's intention which aren't even proved. What a dumb... and this little guy is the administrator of Bitcoin.org ?Well, it's just a little guy with a SSH access on a server and a bit of skill in programming Wink

Cobra is litteraly nobody and bring nothing to the community. I will never share a "bitcoin.org" link on my future plateforms. I hate that kind of persons who are abusing their power by lying like that (can he prove what he said about Mozilla ?)

EDIT: The simple fact that he's pretentious about the intention of Mozilla Firefox, mean a lot about his real face and behavior in the real life. Even if he's the real owned of Bitcoin.org.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on June 30, 2020, 04:04:33 PM

Cobra is mysterious person and I don't have big trust in him. Especially after these tweets mentioned above in past.

just because someone has a different opinion than you, it is not a reason to not-trust them even if that opinion were wrong.
conversely having the same opinion as you doesn't make someone trustworthy (wolf in sheep clothing).

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Quote from: LTU_btc on June 30, 2020, 04:04:33 PM

Bad news. It's not fun to read about disagreement. Cobra is mysterious person and I don't have big trust in him. Especially after these tweets mentioned above in past. It's bad that theymos don't have control of Bitcoin.org...

Quote from: hd49728 on June 30, 2020, 07:46:32 AM

Cobra shown his plan to sell the bitcoin.org and Roger Ver popped up to make a bid. Roll Eyes

And it would be disaster. We already lost Bitcoin.com and it have very big roll in misleading people. What if Bitcoin.org would appear in Ver hands too? Now Bitcoin.org is one of first websites visited by people when they enter word "Bitcoin" in Google search and where they can get unbiased, non-commercial information about Bitcoin. It works almost like official website of Bitcoin.

Don't worry. There are thousands of coins on the market, and bitcoin is only one of them. If people have interests and good willings to find and learn what is real bitcoin, they will do find it and the forum.

From the bubbles of bitcoin cash, bitcoin sv, bitcoin gold, and so on we can see the facts that people knew they are forks from bitcoin and believe in statements on evolutional technologies. They know which one is a real bitcoin and now please tell me why do we should discuss which one is a real bitcoin.

Which one was launched first? Bitcoin BTC, that is all we have. Any other bitcoin a, b, c, sv, shit, forks after that is not real bitcoin. Grin

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Quote from: LTU_btc on June 30, 2020, 04:04:33 PM

Bad news. It's not fun to read about disagreement. Cobra is mysterious person and I don't have big trust in him. Especially after these tweets mentioned above in past. It's bad that theymos don't have control of Bitcoin.org...

Quote from: hd49728 on June 30, 2020, 07:46:32 AM

Cobra shown his plan to sell the bitcoin.org and Roger Ver popped up to make a bid. Roll Eyes

And it would be disaster. We already lost Bitcoin.com and it have very big roll in misleading people. What if Bitcoin.org would appear in Ver hands too? Now Bitcoin.org is one of first websites visited by people when they enter word "Bitcoin" in Google search and where they can get unbiased, non-commercial information about Bitcoin. It works almost like official website of Bitcoin.

Cobra is mysterious and Theymos is not? Huh

How about satoshi? Cheesy

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Bad news. It's not fun to read about disagreement. Cobra is mysterious person and I don't have big trust in him. Especially after these tweets mentioned above in past. It's bad that theymos don't have control of Bitcoin.org...

Quote from: hd49728 on June 30, 2020, 07:46:32 AM

Cobra shown his plan to sell the bitcoin.org and Roger Ver popped up to make a bid. Roll Eyes

And it would be disaster. We already lost Bitcoin.com and it have very big roll in misleading people. What if Bitcoin.org would appear in Ver hands too? Now Bitcoin.org is one of first websites visited by people when they enter word "Bitcoin" in Google search and where they can get unbiased, non-commercial information about Bitcoin. It works almost like official website of Bitcoin.

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The news or FUD proves that theymos was right with his decision on Domain name update.
The important part is separation of the two sites as it was announced by theymos.

Cobra shown his plan to sell the bitcoin.org and Roger Ver popped up to make a bid. Roll Eyes

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Therefore, we decided to separate the domains: I no longer have any access to the bitcoin.org domain name, and Cøbra no longer has any access to the bitcointalk.org domain name. The two sites should be viewed as totally separate, which in practice they have been for years.

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Everything apparently is about the money at some point. Unless the domain can be hosted completely decentralized and open-source and Cobra wants it to be that way, it's just going to always get to that point one day.

You cannot turn an ownership into a "everyone owns it" thing. We cannot have literally everything ran by everyone and anyone in this domain, although it would've been amazing if we could. When people fight for these things, you can see what it turns into by visiting bitcoin.com and checking out the big fuss that was made out of the @Bitcoin account on Twitter.

Quote from: davis196 on June 30, 2020, 06:06:39 AM

Some questions are popping up in my head:
Why is Cobra anonymous,while this guy (Will Binns) isn't anonymous?Why is Cobra hiding his identity?Is he hiding from someone?

Why are you using a pseudonymous currency instead of fiat? Why are you not posting your ID here, is "davis" your real name? Are you hiding from someone? Now would you like it if I started questioning and looking for your real identity?

This "we need to know who that guy is!" thing that pops up with every anonymous person in the crypto sphere is so pathetic. Why do people even care? Let that guy be anonymous, he obviously wanted to maintain his privacy for a reason and some people are just pooping on it. All you'd really do by finding out who he is.. is just putting his identity in danger.

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Cobra owns the domain and he can do whatever he wants with it.

There is nothing more to add.

(he used to own btt.org too, now the owner is theymos)

Quote from: davis196 on June 30, 2020, 06:06:39 AM

This is some weird drama.Some questions are popping up in my head:
Why is Cobra anonymous,while this guy (Will Binns) isn't anonymous?Why is Cobra hiding his identity?

For the same reason satoshi hides his.

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This is some weird drama.Some questions are popping up in my head:
Why is Cobra anonymous,while this guy (Will Binns) isn't anonymous?Why is Cobra hiding his identity?Is he hiding from someone?I know that Cobra is the undisputed owner of Bitcoin.org,but he is a controversial personality.Will Binns wants partial ownership,he isn't trying the steal the website and domain.Maybe he wasn't paid fairly based on the amount of his work as a contractor.I guess that those two will have to decide the conflict in court.

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Quote from: mk4 on June 30, 2020, 05:35:28 AM

If I owned that domain, I'd honestly make it a business lol.

I'd find the constant scrutiny and hysteria such a goddamn ball ache I wouldn't be able to tolerate it myself. It's always going to be a hot potato so I'd try to cool it off as much as possible. The fewer centralised points of contention the better in my eyes at least.

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As long as Cobra doesn't suddenly "flip" to the bad side(like how his opinions on things on Twitter have been shifting left and right and everywhere), whatever. It's technically and legally his domain anyway.

Quote from: gentlemand on June 30, 2020, 04:39:10 AM

If I ran it I'd have a holding page saying 'Bitcoin is nice' and a blockchain download link and that would be that forever.

I'm going to be completely honest here. If I owned that domain, I'd honestly make it a business lol. But I'd definitely strive to make it a far more moral and ethical version of bitcoin.org's evil .com counterpart.

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Quote from: fiulpro on June 30, 2020, 02:49:02 AM

What is your take on this ?

Every buck has to stop somewhere, and that somewhere is Cobra in this case.

I think he's a multi-personalitied weirdo but the site's integrity has been impressive and that's primarily down to his stewardship. That's all he has to point to when people make shrill claims. As ever, actions speak louder than words.

If I ran it I'd have a holding page saying 'Bitcoin is nice' and a blockchain download link and that would be that forever.

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