Topic: BitcoinPoker.gg signature campaign/ {Closed} - page 3. (Read 3929 times)

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Hello! Yes still spots left and you have been accepted 


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You have also been accepted! Happy posting guys, the spreadsheet has been updated.

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It clearly proves that you can spend the funds in that address.  How is that not relevant?



This kind of reply basically makes me think that you are an unadulterated asshole.  You say things like "this proves nothing" when it obiviously proves something very relevant: that the escrow is in control of funds for the deal.

I'm going to leave off here because as soon as someone who doesn't know how to argue goes into "you don't know what you are talking about" and "you are wrong and I am right" then it's really not worth continuing that kind of discussion in my opinion.

Good luck to bitcoinpoker.gg, I've used the site and I like it.  I hope that people aren't going to be too turned off by the out-of-line response from this "escrow" to someone who was merely trying to help.

Perhaps I misunderstand you, but isn't that exactly the point.  If the escrow signs a message from the escrow address then it shows that the escrow does have control of the funds for the escrow account and can spend those funds to the other party(es) upon fulfilment of the terms.


Ok, I guess there's some value in this.


That's not what I'd do if I were escrow.  And it's not what I'd want to see from an escrow I was working with.  It's one thing to say, I'll be escrowing this deal.  But it sounds absolutely nuts to say "i gurantee this deal" before receiving anything from either party.


Signing a message from a bitcoin address with funds on the blockchain does imply control of that address, and therefore, the ability to use it to pay out upon completion of the terms.

Obviously the folks on this forum can trust who they like to and do what they want to do.  I'm not calling anyone out here as shady or untrustworthy.  FWIW, I just figured that quickseller signed using PGP rather than the escrow address by force or habit or something.  If he is guranteeing an address he doesn't control, it would be pretty surprising.  But maybe we should just ask him directly:

Quickseller, do you control 1NPDJ8gmNbZd2QimaQzbFBmGUtCX5djgrC ?

I'm quite surprised that what I said is in anyway controversial.  It seems quite straightforward to me.

Like I said to you via PM, signing a message proves nothing. The escrow could easily get a signed message from whoever else controls the private key. If you are not going to take my word for it then there is no reason why you would take my word when I give you a signed message that I say I signed myself.

Anyone who somehow thinks that just because an escrow controls a certain address that they will receive payment is just niave. The determining factor of is escrow is going to pay out is their reputation.
I don't think you understand the role that escrow plays. If escrow receives funds and they agree that a counterparty will receive a certain amount of funds under certain circumstances then it is his responsibility to make sure that they receive payment if those circumstances are met.

Displaying a specific address is to provide transparecy to tell potential participants a maximum total amount that I am willing to payout.

I have used escrow in probably close to 50 trades and never once has the escrow provider offered to sign the escrow address nor has any of my trading partners. I have probably completed a good 75 trades without escrow (both are estimates) and my trading partner has never asked me to sign the address I am asking to receive payment to. If I don't actually control the private key to the address I am asking to receive funds to then too bad for me.

Yes, it is what is usually done. But it has certain limitations including you cannot use an address you can't sign but still receive and send funds from/to.

It proves that the Quickseller is in control of his account. He cannot later claim it to be hacked or anything.
He is establishing that he is acting as the escrow and is reponsible for the funds.

Escrow's usually sign the message before receiving funds.

Escrow guarantees the payments. In case the amount is lost due to his fault, he might need to recover it from his own money too. As the case may be. Signing message does not imply receipt of funds.

Edit: PM'd you the reply. Don't want to post too much here.

You guys can say this, and it is what it is.  However, the tradition in escrowing for a signature ad campaign is to sign a message from the escrow address to prove that you, the escrow, have received the funds.  Signing with PGP just adds PGP authenticity to the post which claims he controls it.  But we already can see this from the fact that he posted a message in this forum.  I don't understand what signing with PGP is supposed to prove here.  However, if he were to sign with the escrow address, that would be proof that the escrow has received the funds.

You don't have to take my word for it, ask bitcoininformation aka MitcheLL or hillariousandco or anyone who's been around these signtaure campaigns for some time.  The tradition is to sign from the escrow address so that we know that the escrow is in receipt of the funds.

Note that the escrow is not supposed to be "guranteeing" the payouts with his own money.  The escrow is supposed to be in receipt of money from one of the parties and will release it to the other party upon completion of certain terms.  Signing from the escrow address shows that the first part of this arrangement has occurred, namely, that the escrow is in receipt of funds from one of the parties.

Right, but you should sign a message from the bitcoin address used for escrow to prove that you have control of that address.  We believe that you are quickseller, the goal of the message is to prove that you own the escrow address.

My PGP key is in my profile.

I am guaranteeing that the amount in that address will be available to be paid out by participants. In the (unlikely) event that I somehow lose access to funds in that address then I would need to use my own personal funds to pay participants. As long as you (or any participant) trusts me enough to pay them when they meet the conditions to receive payment then proving that I control that address is a moot point. If you do not trust me enough to pay out, then proving that I control that address is even more of a moot point.

Accepted after sending you the pm to improve post quality. I will update the spread asap.


I would be going against my better judgement if i accepted you and if you read rule 4 you would be running the risk of being reported and not paid. I am sorry but application denied.

If you improve 10-20posts and we still have space, retry i will re consider 

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Very nice signatures.

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA512

This is quickseller from bitcointalk.

The escrow address for the bitcoinpoker.ag signature campaign is : 1NPDJ8gmNbZd2QimaQzbFBmGUtCX5djgrC

This is in reference to the thread located: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoinpokergg-signature-campaign-closed-1018585

As long as there are funds in the escrow address to cover payment to all participants then it is safe to wear the signature.

Thank you.
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