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full member
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May 09, 2011, 07:39:26 AM
Its not my fault, i am not asking you to pay me.
You seems not understanding still.
They didn't change password, they changed ADDRESS.
Since Bitcoin address is not a number very very very very easy to remember, it is very hard to find whether it is changed or not.
The hacker hacked members account & changed the address, so that he gets bitcoins, not members.
This is not about password only, its about ADDRESS also & address is very very very very important than password here in bitcoin world.

The email i received from you only tells to change password, not saying anything about address checking, verifying & confirming.

People were told to check their wallet IDs and the pool owners halted all payments for a couple of days to allow compromised accounts to check their payment address, thus preventing payment to any changed accounts. 5th post quoted from bitcoinpool forum thread that was linked in large red text on the front page:

Quote from: FairUser
The same ###### #####(s) tried to brute force into accounts again last night.
I just blocked the entire /16 netblock for their entire ISP.

CHECK YOUR WALLET ID'S RIGHT NOW!!!!
IF YOUR PASSWORD IS THE SAME AS YOUR USERNAME, THEN YOU NEED TO CHANGE IT NOW.

The pool owners have worked very hard to try and ensure that they and all pool users update and secure their accounts after the initial attack.
legendary
Activity: 1855
Merit: 1016
May 09, 2011, 04:28:04 AM
Its not my fault, i am not asking you to pay me.
You seems not understanding still.
They didn't change password, they changed ADDRESS.
Since Bitcoin address is not a number very very very very easy to remember, it is very hard to find whether it is changed or not.
The hacker hacked members account & changed the address, so that he gets bitcoins, not members.
This is not about password only, its about ADDRESS also & address is very very very very important than password here in bitcoin world.

The email i received from you only tells to change password, not saying anything about address checking, verifying & confirming.
sr. member
Activity: 258
Merit: 250
May 09, 2011, 04:20:51 AM
My account was compromised & it was never mentioned to me.
I daily checking bitcoinpool.com & it displayed compromised account & my account never listed, so done nothing.
I mined yesterday & got 2 transactions in my email showing that

Amount: 0.2062528 & Amount: 0.07712649
Recipient: dishwara [1DML7p6LJG3QKo169Zga2iCP9Yn4Qvxdyg]
transfered. I keep on checking bitcoin client , nothing is happening, checked in block explorer coins transferred, then checked my address book, that address was not my address at all.
the FUCKING BASTARD, hacked my account & changed my bitcoin address, so that i lost 0.277 coins with out changing the password.

GEEBUS & FAIRUSER ALERT ALL YOUR MEMBERS TO CHECK THEIR BITCOIN ADDRESS IN THEIR ACCOUNT IS SAME AS THEY GIVEN & ALSO ASK TO CHANGE PASSWORD IMMEDIATELY.
Also, always the password typed in your sites goes unencrypted which makes any one to hack account.
SaferChrome Extension for chrome always shows in RED, password box meaning, it is not safe.


To the BASTARD who own this address 1DML7p6LJG3QKo169Zga2iCP9Yn4Qvxdyg, I am 100% sure & also this world knows now that, your mom & your daughter sucked & fucked me for that bitcoins, enjoy u PIMP.



We posted numerous times to all of our users when the original attack happened on April 15th to change their passwords. If you didn't do it because your name wasn't on a list, thats your own fault.
legendary
Activity: 1855
Merit: 1016
May 09, 2011, 01:50:25 AM
My account was compromised & it was never mentioned to me.
I daily checking bitcoinpool.com & it displayed compromised account & my account never listed, so done nothing.
I mined yesterday & got 2 transactions in my email showing that

Amount: 0.2062528 & Amount: 0.07712649
Recipient: dishwara [1DML7p6LJG3QKo169Zga2iCP9Yn4Qvxdyg]
transfered. I keep on checking bitcoin client , nothing is happening, checked in block explorer coins transferred, then checked my address book, that address was not my address at all.
the FUCKING BASTARD, hacked my account & changed my bitcoin address, so that i lost 0.277 coins with out changing the password.

GEEBUS & FAIRUSER ALERT ALL YOUR MEMBERS TO CHECK THEIR BITCOIN ADDRESS IN THEIR ACCOUNT IS SAME AS THEY GIVEN & ALSO ASK TO CHANGE PASSWORD IMMEDIATELY.
Also, always the password typed in your sites goes unencrypted which makes any one to hack account.
SaferChrome Extension for chrome always shows in RED, password box meaning, it is not safe.


To the BASTARD who own this address 1DML7p6LJG3QKo169Zga2iCP9Yn4Qvxdyg, I am 100% sure & also this world knows now that, your mom & your daughter sucked & fucked me for that bitcoins, enjoy u PIMP.

sr. member
Activity: 258
Merit: 250
May 08, 2011, 11:29:12 PM
Our logs show otherwise, but either way, the last time you even participated in the pool was over a month ago and a considerable amount has changed since then.
This statement underlines the reason I decided to stop doing business with you.  There are a limited number of possibilities here.  You are either: lying, unable to tell what is true (logically incompetent), or, based on the incorrect logs, unable to write solid code (technically incompetent).  I'm sorry, but I do not trust my money with someone possessing any of these qualities.

It's possible that you left around the same time that we starting logging each ban independently based on reason and your ban was mis-categorized. I didn't say you were wrong, I said our logs showed otherwise, stating, in hand, that upon inspecting your account history and our logs, it showed that you were banned for low efficiency. A lot of those logs were recategorized by hand when we first implemented the system. It says nothing about the rest of the pool functionality or code, nothing about my ability to be logically competent, and doesn't say that I'm lying either.

It only says that my logs differ from your stated comment. However, if you choose to read that far into it, I can into you saying that by choosing to leave a pool that has no fees, consistently improves and implements new features, and grows on a daily basis in favor of any of the other options that were available a month ago, you're displaying that you personally are not capable of doing basic math in regard to net gains, as is the case with the better portion of the bitcoin community, as they left one pool that charges excess fees for another that charges even more.   
legendary
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May 08, 2011, 09:10:47 PM
Quote from: fairuser
We openly invited Slush to prove that Pool Hopping makes more bitcoins, and set some basic criteria for him to follow so that everyone could follow along and see if pool hopping really worked. He said it did, I said it didn't and asked him to prove it. He never openly excepted our challenge...

I'm too much busy to care about your pool, my friend. I never tried anything with your pool. No hoping, no DDoS, no breaking passwords. I'm really interested in your evidence, because you're talking bullshits. I totally don't understand why you hate me so much.

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One being slush and friends


Oh my god, why? I don't care about you at all.

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So at this point I'm going to say that slush fucking knows that pool hopping doesn't make you more bitcoins, but hacking does apparently.

My god, how is this related to DDoS, password breaking and all other shits? I wrote you that *if* I'll try pool hoping, I'll do it in open way, as real proof, not because I want to earn bitcoins.

Please, ignore me, right? And please stop saying that I'm an attacker without any evidence. Btw I was (probably) attacked during this weekend, too. There is somebody trying to shut down some important bitcoin services (like mtgox and, ehm, me). Why are you so sure that *I* am the attacker?
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 107
May 08, 2011, 11:15:11 AM
Our logs show otherwise, but either way, the last time you even participated in the pool was over a month ago and a considerable amount has changed since then.
This statement underlines the reason I decided to stop doing business with you.  There are a limited number of possibilities here.  You are either: lying, unable to tell what is true (logically incompetent), or, based on the incorrect logs, unable to write solid code (technically incompetent).  I'm sorry, but I do not trust my money with someone possessing any of these qualities.
sr. member
Activity: 258
Merit: 250
May 08, 2011, 11:12:07 AM
I haven't been able to reach www.bitcoinpool.com for over a month. I didn't even know it still existed, but I just tried with a proxy and it works fine, so it looks like your site is randomly ip banning people.

We banned a large number of IPs that were attempting various attacks against the pool.
sr. member
Activity: 258
Merit: 250
May 08, 2011, 11:06:13 AM
Upset because we banned you for being inefficient?

It's a rule. You broke it.
What?  I left the pool voluntarily; my account was in good standing with over 90% efficiency.  If anything, it got banned for inactivity.  It might be a good idea to get your facts straight.

Our logs show otherwise, but either way, the last time you even participated in the pool was over a month ago and a considerable amount has changed since then.
newbie
Activity: 40
Merit: 0
May 08, 2011, 10:54:23 AM
I haven't been able to reach www.bitcoinpool.com for over a month. I didn't even know it still existed, but I just tried with a proxy and it works fine, so it looks like your site is randomly ip banning people.
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 107
May 08, 2011, 10:47:27 AM
Upset because we banned you for being inefficient?

It's a rule. You broke it.
What?  I left the pool voluntarily; my account was in good standing with over 90% efficiency.  If anything, it got banned for inactivity.  It might be a good idea to get your facts straight.
sr. member
Activity: 258
Merit: 250
May 08, 2011, 10:37:24 AM
The only people who seem to dislike, distrust, or belittle our pool are those who haven't tried it themselves.
This is about the most laughable post I've read on this forum so far.  And I've read some of bobR's stuff...

Upset because we banned you for being inefficient?

It's a rule. You broke it.

We don't ask much, we don't expect much. Shit, God had 10 commandments...  Wink
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 107
May 08, 2011, 10:30:07 AM
The only people who seem to dislike, distrust, or belittle our pool are those who haven't tried it themselves.
This is about the most laughable post I've read on this forum so far.  And I've read some of bobR's stuff...
sr. member
Activity: 258
Merit: 250
May 08, 2011, 06:22:29 AM
The only people who seem to dislike, distrust, or belittle our pool are those who haven't tried it themselves.
full member
Activity: 120
Merit: 100
May 08, 2011, 05:30:43 AM
It is difficult to believe that anyone would do business with this pool.  All you have to do is review a couple of their posts to see how juvenile and unprofessional they are.  Avoid!

Wow, whereas if you speak to the people in the pool you'll find that they are more than happy with the time and effort Geebus and Fairuser put in to make the pool a success. What's funny it that I've noticed hostility in this forum from the day they started, it's almost like certain people are opposed to a 0% fee pool.

A for Xenon's post, a discussion is just that, a discussion, and that's all Fairuser and Geebus can be accused of so far. Are you going to berate the attacks or spend more effort berating the person being attacked who has asked his users what they think he should do next? If you ask me, your post is  biased against the person being attacked, even though you've made a vain effort to appear neutral to anyone reading it. Does this mean that you secretly condone other people attacking pools that you don't personally like?
newbie
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Merit: 0
May 07, 2011, 06:48:50 PM
It is difficult to believe that anyone would do business with this pool.  All you have to do is review a couple of their posts to see how juvenile and unprofessional they are.  Avoid!
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
May 07, 2011, 06:08:12 PM
BitcoinPool has been getting Hacked and DOS'd fairly successfully and quite constantly for the past 2 months. That's a horrible thing to do to any service provider. But, now it looks like BitcoinPool's owners are thinking about going and hacking other people in response.

Quote from: FairUser
So I've been e-mailing admins of the open proxies when they've been used to attack us. Since I started doing that, I've gotten 5 reply's back. Two admins basically said "Sorry, can't help." The other 3 have been very helpful in providing use with either the logs or the IP's of the offenders...who seem to have switched to Tor.

I don't want to start pointing fingers at who this is, because I don't have the records from the ISP of the person doing this to prove it's them, but we know the specific area (city and country) and have been able to figure out who it is by other comments they've posted on the bitcoin forums. Let's just say they have a lot more to loose than our pool does.

So here's the question, do we fight back and target these fuckers for counter attacks or just leave them be?

FairUser said he doesn't want to point fingers because he doesn't have proof, but as has been shown earlier in this thread, he's already pointed fingers at both Slush and Tycho with "evidence" that doesn't even actually point to them (the IP Addresses posted in some of their earlier posts about the hacks do point to Eastern Europe, but not to where Slush is).

Quote from: FairUser
So just to recap for everyone.

We openly invited Slush to prove that Pool Hopping makes more bitcoins, and set some basic criteria for him to follow so that everyone could follow along and see if pool hopping really worked. He said it did, I said it didn't and asked him to prove it. He never openly excepted our challenge...

Within days we saw our first major attack on April 4th. This was a SQL injection attack that dumped everything from the database and changed people's wallet IDs. Then a few days later we saw SQL injection again that targeted wallet IDs. Then after that we had someone (the same person that stole the DB) trying to brute force into accounts, because user's didn't change their password when we advised them to. Then about 2 weeks after the first attack, we got a massive DoS from multiple IP's. Then after that someone again tried to brute force into people's accounts, and again succeeded do in doing so due to poor passwords. And last but not least was last night, we're someone was trying to brute force people account passwords through the RPC port (8334) and someone else was DoSing us at the same time. So I'm about at the end of my tolerance to deal with this shit, my patience is virtually gone.


So we believe this to be two attackers. One being slush and friends (more evidence on this later), and one being an unknown party from down under. I got a contact with the cyber crime division of the AFP (Australian Federal Police) and I'm waiting to here back about the IP's I sent him to look at. After I explained that it does in fact involved theft of currancy, he said he'd see what he can do to help us. I've also been sending e-mails to the admins of the IP's of the open HTTP proxies that have been used against us, and some have been very helpful in providing us logs. One of the proxies was from a .gov address, so the admin was very happy to have someone report that a box was mis configured and being abusive on the Internet, and he *might* be able to get me the IP's of the people doing the attack depending on whether they were going to do anything about it themselves. So that's two different government's that *might* be able to help us. Personally I'm not holding my breath expecting answers from them, but one can hope. Next step is we're going to block Tor entirely. Don't get me wrong, I love Tor too, but bitcoin and this forum are pretty anonymous anyway, so the need for Tor isn't needed at all.

So, all in all, it's been a shitty fucking month for this pool in regards to being attacked. Instead of proving what they believe to be true, they fucking hack us. So at this point I'm going to say that slush fucking knows that pool hopping doesn't make you more bitcoins, but hacking does apparently.

And now FairUser is openly accusing Slush without posting any evidence at all. He says that he's been able to figure it out from comments posted on the forums, but I haven't seen a single post from Slush that would indicate that he is hacking/DOSing them.

I'm not trying to defend Slush here. I have no idea what he does or does not actually do. But, if you are going to openly accuse any member of this forum of illegal activities, then provide your proof.



Edit:

Also, FairUser was saying that Pool Hopping doesn't actually work at all, but they put in an anti-pool-hopping measure.... One that works in a conceptually similar way to scoring (making earlier shares in a round worth less) even though they said that they would never do something like that.

Quote from: Geebus
We've added in code that will hopefully result in pool hoppers being deterred from leaving rounds early.

Essentially, the way this works is;

If the round duration at the end of the round is greater than 1 hour, each user is looked at to see their 'window of participation', which is the time difference between their first and last submitted shares.

If the time difference between their shares is less than one half of the round duration, their share count will be reduced by 50% and the other half of their shares will be credited to an account setup by the pool operators.
sr. member
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May 06, 2011, 01:59:03 AM
I thought I would drop in and let people know that our pool has resumed normal functionality.  We got hit pretty hard yesterday with a DoS attack, but we've been able to muffle it for the time being.

I would also like to point out that just because we had some problems with the site yesterday, we still found 7 blocks and users have been paid for the blocks that are now confirmed.

Thank you all for your understanding and participation.

full member
Activity: 120
Merit: 100
April 24, 2011, 06:36:42 PM
Hello to geebus or fairuser it seems there was a problem with my miner last night it's not generating but still requesting getworks.  Feel free to disable me I'm not at home for the holidays.

Feel free to post on their forums (or PM them directly) if you're a member of their pool. They reply pretty quickly there and give clear statements as to what has caused any known issues and what they are doing to resolve them.
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April 24, 2011, 01:22:21 PM
Hello to geebus or fairuser it seems there was a problem with my miner last night it's not generating but still requesting getworks.  Feel free to disable me I'm not at home for the holidays.
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