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But banks are more and more controlled for a few years, especially the 2008 crisis. It' a lot of harder to dance in the Money Laundering nightclub.
The citizens too are more and more controlled (i.e.: Big Data used by the Taxes ministry, algorithms used by banks),
The percentage of transactions related to illegal activity has dropped by more than half in the last five years, which means that they are no longer interested in using Bitcoin.
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Banks have been laundering money for the longest time, what fox and others are saying about money laundering in crypto is that they can't really catch you do that if you are smart enough about it. Which means, even if you are the biggest bank in the world, when you launder money people can find you, IRS can find you and you will have to pay a fine for that. However, if you are doing it on crypto and use a privacy coin like xmr or whatever than you will not be caught and you will be easily laundering money.

The trouble here is not that crypto will be used for money laundering, of course it will be used for money laundering, of course it will be used for drug money, of course it will be used to hire hitman to kill someone, all bad things will be done. However does people think what humans used before crypto came out, before 2008 ? What were they using and currently using as well ?

Well, they used fiat to do all of that and currently still using fiat as well, crypto currency is just one more currency that gives that option, nothing extraordinary there.
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You're kinda preaching to the choir here Smiley

I've said it before and I say it again -- most anti money laundering measures only hit the general populace. The big money is for the most part unaffected. Whether that's due to malice or incompetence is a different question and a tricky one at that.



...of course they do.
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Who really says that Bitcoin was made for money laundering anyway? I mean, I guess it can make it easier, but it also potentially makes it easier for authorities to track you down. Whoever truly believes this statement is either ignorant or biased. I'm not sure where to place banks that say this, but they're certainly hyprocrites lmao.
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A lengthy response to the claim that "bitcoin was only created to launder money"

Bitcoin’s Affect on US Banks Money Laundering

While the US banks are crying about over-regulation and Fox News reports that crypto increases money laundering to their viewers in America, we thought it would be fun to see how much money American banks have laundered over the last decade.

Since the taxpayers covered the $21bn cost to bailout the banks a decade ago, they’ve surely learned their lesson and changed their ways.

While there is dispute in the press and government about the cost of regulating the financial industry being between $1.2 trillion or $2 trillion annually, the costs could easily be brought down if taxpayers realized how much money laundering is continually being found in the banking system.

Money Laundering and Manipulation by US Banks

When JPMorgan paid $65 million for manipulating the benchmark for interest rate derivatives, it took regulators years to investigate and prove, while the bank was allowed to pay a fine and neither admit or deny the regulators “claims” of wrongdoing. Goldman Sachs paid $120 million for the same fraud investigated by regulators.

Bank of America paid $30m to settle charges it manipulated global interest rates for 6 years on customers purchased products from the bank.

In 2006, when Bank of America admitted to allowing $3 billion to be laundered through a single Manhattan branch, the bank claimed in a statement to “take seriously it’s anti-money laundering obligations.”

Years later Bank of America paid $17 billion in penalties for profiting off loans they knew would never be paid, while mocking the “due diligence” processes regulators required.

Their fine for not following money laundering procedures in 2017 was only $13 million. The “allegations” date back to 2010 and 2011, so the investigation and time for settlement negotiations must have cost the tax payers a lot for that one.

Citibanks Money Laundering Fines

Citigroup puts so much effort dealing with money laundering “allegations,” it’s hard to imagine they have time to manipulate global interest rates.

They still found the time to manipulate interest rates though and overcharge customers back in 2008 and 2009. Citibank paid a $100 million fine this year for the fraudulent activity. That’s almost ten years regulators and lawyers had to negotiate after a crime was committed for a settlement and story to tell the public.

They were also fined $70 million in 2018 for failure to comply with anti-money laundering laws.

In Ireland, Citibank was fined €1.33 million as well this year for loan breaches, we’ll stick to the US fraud with these global banking giants, for the most part though.

In 2015 Citibank were ordered to pay $700 million in consumer relief for illegal credit card add-ons charged to customers. If consumer fraud against 7 million banking customers isn’t a good way to market buying bitcoin, we don’t know what is.

In 2017 Citigroup kindly agreed to pay a $97 Million settlement for laundering money in Mexico after their Banamex USA federal investigation took years to uncover the banks misdeeds.

JPMorgans Illegal Activities

Some might say Citibank is just one bank that had some bad apples, it’s no reason to “bank on bitcoin” in the US. They never followed JPMorgan and their illegal activities over the last few years.

JPMorgan admitted no wrongdoing when paying $2.8 million in 2017, for eight years of lacking proper safeguards for customers.

In 2014 though, JPMorgan paid out whopping $2.6 billion to settle “allegations” that they helped Bernie Madoff rob people for 20 years. Then they settled other “claims” that they assisted Madoff with theft but it was only $218 million and $325 million to settle those.

Bernie Madoff’s Ponzi scheme was estimated to have cost investors between $12 and $20 billion. He was on the board of governors of the National Association of Securities Dealers, now called Finra. He also helped create the Nasdaq stock market, where JPMorgan earned the $3 billion it paid to settled for their connection to him.

That was only a couple of months after their 2013 settlement, where JPMorgan paid $13 billion for selling fraudulent loans to customers.

JPMorgans CEO earned $20 million in 2014, $18 million in restricted stock, for helping the shareholders stop worrying about all the “illegal activities” they were caught for.

Wells Fargo Fraud Scandals

Wells Fargo has been a nightmare since it was caught creating fake bank accounts using their customers details. Their recent SEC settlement for $5.1 million was from 2009 to June 2013 “allegations” (they never admit wrongdoing, ever) they stole fee’s from customers like other banks do.

The $1 billion fine Wells Fargo agreed to pay in 2018 for “bad acts against customers,” along with the $2 billion fine from the decade old mortgage financial crisis.

They were also one of banks that banned buying bitcoin in the US with their credit cards.

Perhaps bitcoin having a controlled supply of 21 million coins conflicts with the banks and federal reserve belief, to create money and never be audited are benefits to everyone who values the US dollar.

Bitcoin wasn't created to help money laundering anymore than banks were created to pay fines and admit no wrongdoing.


Source: https://www.bestbitcoinbuyers.com/2018/11/14/bitcoin-will-save-us-taxpayers-millions-wasted-investigating-and-regulating-the-banks-money-laundering-schemes/
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