Topic: Bitcoin's information insurgency (Read 251 times)

So to summarize this wall of text-The Bitcoiners are mostly young people,so they are communicating via memes,social media,etc.We already know that.There's no need for somebody to explain this.
I like the idea that the Bitcoin community is somehow "dominating the narrative",by forcing the mainstream media to talk about Bitcoin,even though the mainstream media might not like Bitcoin.This is basically free advertising for BTC.
We live in a post-modernistic world and authority isn't that respected,like it used to be in the past.
That's why the Bitcoiners don't have that much respect for people like Warren Buffet and institutions like the International Monetary Fund or the Federal Reserve System.

The article is fun to read.

Social media is indeed a great equalizer. It is where a daily wage earner, for example, could directly insult a sitting president or a CEO or a billionaire. And this is indeed the one being exploited by the so-called bitcoiners. However, the social media is also a topsy-turvy, almost anarchic, world where right and wrong, truth and lie, fact and fiction, scam and legit, and so on are getting so mixed together that you can hardly tell anymore which is which.

So, in a way, while bitcoiners may consider this as their stronghold or turf, it could also be the very place where Bitcoin is utterly desecrated, made so cheap, abused, and humiliated by its very own rowdy and ignorant diehard and blind supporters.

Personally, I would discourage anybody seriously interested enough to get to know Bitcoin to learn about it on social media or even exclusive crypto or Bitcoin publications. A newbie trying to objectively understand Bitcoin with the use of social media might end up concluding that Bitcoin is a Ponzi scheme.

I don't know who are the bitcoiners on social media. Perhaps they're the likes of @APompliano, @adam3us, @100trillionUSD, @DocumentingBTC, @lopp, @michael_saylor, and so on. But they're definitely not the only ones who could make Bitcoin posts out there. There are a million others. So I don't I think I'd agree with this:

Heck, even until right now Bitcoiners are still getting heavily ridiculed, just significantly less than how it used to be years ago. Hence why I have huge respect to the early Bitcoin advocates that had the balls to appear on CNBC/CNN/etc knowing that they it's almost guaranteed for them to get ridiculed. They're having the last laugh today, though.

Exactly that. Last thing from my side considering what you wrote: It does not matter how one arrives to bitcoin (via the lambo, via the green candle, via the fomo, via the cryptowinter, whatever) but rather how one sticks to bitcoin. If there is one thing that bitcoin gave me for sure is to be able to commit and dedicate my time into something I care. That is the best part.

and thinking about this a bit more I realise that the bitcoiners have something
unique apart from Bitcoin itself, its the fact that the bitcoiners who are just ordinary
people are in this space first, they created it, they developed and nurtured it.

Its almost like the bitcoiners control the space so they can use meme's and any other
means to communicate, attack or defend what is theirs.

I would say it irritates a lot of the Elites that they "have" to share this with us. This
generally dosent happen in the world of finance.

I think that memes is a good way to make some recognition out of bitcoin so instead of being mad about it, I think that embracing it is the better thing to do because in a way it paints us in a good light that we are all a sport for not being offended by the memes that sometimes attack bitcoin.

Uhm, I definitely wouldn't look at it that way. Memes are just one way(albeit, a definitely unique and bizarre way) of how a lot of people online, but mostly people on the younger side, express their interests/feelings regardless of financial situation.

Proud Bitcoiners are proud Bitcoiners. See them on Twitter showing their wallet with 0.0015BTC on it saying "living the life!"  No matter what, no one can take it from him as he has the keys. No keys, no cheese.

Bitcoiners was also ridiculed through memes during the time of the bear season. Memes are just for fun just as how flat-earthers are being ridiculed online.

True.  It's likely that as soon as anyone tries to portray the situation as black and white, someone else points out a differing view.  It's also possible that many of those who are posting these viral memes may purely see Bitcoin through the lens of a speculator.  They may not be the ones:
and possibly have no appreciation for the innate qualities of open source, permissionless, transparent, etc.  It might just be a fondness for "green candles".  But perhaps there's no comeback to their social carpet bombing either, even if they are missing some of the nuance.

It could be and given the fact that after 12 years nobody gets Bitcoin correctly there must be a reason to it. Now, whatever we may think of it, Pomp has a point here anyway. You too have a point though as we are witnessing a clash of cultures here, I mean think of the Schiff's for example. Schiff Jr. is just hilarious.

I mean... the way it's worded certainly makes it sound compelling.  But, the more I think about it, the more I'm certain that the use of memes isn't a deliberate attempt to add a layer of obfuscation to keep the fuddy-duddies at bay.  It's just an observation of a generational gap.  This is merely the manner in which some younger people opt to share ideas.  It's not tactical.  They could be communicating in Latin and it wouldn't change the fact that most of the traditionalists still wouldn't "get it".

yes that's bitcoiner thinking which is very aggressive and can break various arguments. they are not only educated but also learn all systems from the smallest. they do know how to flow to deal with inconsistencies in developing information and problems. they're like detectives, that's the nickname I give senior bitcoiner.
Just imagine they can be invited to discuss in any field, even bicoiner are adept at using statistical calculations which are very difficult for certain people to master.
A great gift of mind was born from Bitcoin to educate a future that is even more challenging.

simple art for deep meaning.

If bitcoin is arguably the winner. bitcoin does not have the top fiat as it is owned by the state of the regulated state as a form of use. Bitcoin is used by anyone, not even whether they are people with a berdasi or not, just buy, store and spend bitcoins belonging to all.

Loved the laser eye memes. Saw it everywhere on twitter for a period of time. Not many realize the impact of memes, especially for the younger generation. While its mostly just for laughs, it definitely has a deeper message than most realize. Its a collective effort. I agree with Pomp and its only just a matter of time. Each day I see articles from various traditional banks (Morgan Stanley, Bank of American then Deutsche just the other day) all expressing their thoughts about Bitcoin and I think its because they too realize that they can't just keep on avoiding Bitcoin even if they don't want to.

Great piece by Pomp, I never thought about it like that, its so true.

We Bitcoiners are bombarding the the public space 24/7/365 with our narrative
while the elites have essentially only 2 answers, Bitcoins power consumption and the
Money laundering by criminals talk.

Funny thing is, their attack (or defence, depending how we look at it) is intermittent, take
this year alone the head of the ECB has made 2 big statements that I can find

January 13th - ECB's Lagarde calls for regulating Bitcoin's "funny business"

February 10th - ECB president Christine Lagarde says it's 'very unlikely' that central banks will hold bitcoin in the near future

Janet Yellen, the U.S treasury secretary has sounded once I think, it doesnt matter.

February 22nd - Yellen sounds warning about 'extremely inefficient' bitcoin

Adoption is happening, we know its happening, they know its happening and they
realise there is little they can do to counter it, and they are frightened

there are far too many of them!  Let's say then it is not one of our favorites even if it makes sense among the overall narrative. The fact about opera it is undeniable, I hate opera. I cannot stand it.
Memes, by poor people for poor people. So be it!

This is the one that I was pertaining too, and I do agree with what it says. I mean memes can be made out of nowhere so in a way even poor people can make it and enjoy it because it is everywhere and it is free.

Memes are not made by poor people. Why do you say that?

Amen brother, that is what I like the most about this new community: there are people from different backgrounds all united under the bitcoin protocol rules. And all this people is smart, so fucking smart.

Well, memes are made by poor people for the poor people, memes is the key to freedom of the people. Not to mention that most people in the Boomer generation and those older than them are pretty much had everything laid on to them so they don't have to work hard for anything and now that they are old, they think that the world still revolves around them so they still want it all. Controversy sparks debates especially if that controversy is the truth or exposes the truth.

Great great short piece by him. The boomer finance people simply don't get internet culture. It's not as if only the bitcoiners are posting memes and banter, the whole internet does! And there's a reason why we have a lot of memelords in the first place— because the boomers don't realize how diverse and how spread out the bitcoiners actually are. We have everything! — memers, bitcoiners with controversial opinions, bitcoiners who are downright idiots, bitcoiners that are actually super professional and that truly understand economics, bitcoiners that are solely tech people, everything!