Did you forget that Bitcoin isn't anonymous? Kinda defeats the point of Tor to de-anonymise it...
It's anonymizable. That's good enough.
Topic: Bitcoin's Killer App = High Speed Anonymous Internet (TOR like) - page 2. (Read 3386 times)
October 27, 2013, 09:43:35 PM
It's anonymizable. That's good enough.
October 27, 2013, 09:25:46 PM
Did you forget that Bitcoin isn't anonymous? Kinda defeats the point of Tor to de-anonymise it...
October 27, 2013, 07:53:03 PM
i just wanted to say I've been thinking about this for a while and i think its a really great idea.
also consider that you wouldn't necessarily need to use the internet. the if we had a real market in data transmission it would offer such good incentive for people to carry other peoples data that it could potentially be used to build a parallel internet with its own infrastructure provided by thousands of small entrepreneurs rather than giant ISP's.
I speak of course of meshnets. The market in data transmission would solve the sorts of load balancing problems that are causing scalability issues for meshnet researchers today. I have this theory that the reason meshnet researchers are unable to make scalable meshnets is precisely because they are computer scientists not economists and so they do not realize that this is an economics problem and not a computer science problem.
also consider that you wouldn't necessarily need to use the internet. the if we had a real market in data transmission it would offer such good incentive for people to carry other peoples data that it could potentially be used to build a parallel internet with its own infrastructure provided by thousands of small entrepreneurs rather than giant ISP's.
I speak of course of meshnets. The market in data transmission would solve the sorts of load balancing problems that are causing scalability issues for meshnet researchers today. I have this theory that the reason meshnet researchers are unable to make scalable meshnets is precisely because they are computer scientists not economists and so they do not realize that this is an economics problem and not a computer science problem.
October 27, 2013, 07:29:45 PM
I always thought that tor needed to have incentives for nodes. This sounds like a good idea. It'll also keep bit torrenters off of the tor network too.
October 27, 2013, 06:58:30 PM
I feel like there will always be a way to uncover TOR users, resulting a cat and mice chase to cover yourself up, but a high speed option would be great non the less.
October 27, 2013, 06:47:59 PM
I wonder how much work it would be to integrate bitcoin or would it have to be completely done from scratch?
what you have to start with is improving the speed and efficiency of Tor.
then somehow incentivize Tor nodes with Bitcoin traffic payments. the faster the node the more they get paid. how you screen out gov't nodes i have no idea.
the point is i would gladly pay Bitcoin to use a high speed anonymous Tor network.
October 27, 2013, 06:43:35 PM
I wonder how much work it would be to integrate bitcoin or would it have to be completely done from scratch?
October 27, 2013, 11:55:46 AM
Imagine TOR but optimized to be high speed as the whole network runs with BTC integrated. Bandwidth costs BTC using micro-transactions. Abuse of the network costs money/resources and the network is compensated in a free market fashion. Technologies like bitcoin are integrated, proof of work, and proof of storage, etc are all integrated. People would run Bitcoin-TOR like nodes to make a little bit of money while users enjoy high speed.
What makes it the killer app? People who want to surf anonymously AND have high speed will now have to get BTC to enjoy it! It will make a market that requires people to get bitcoin since such a thing is not available any other way.
What makes it the killer app? People who want to surf anonymously AND have high speed will now have to get BTC to enjoy it! It will make a market that requires people to get bitcoin since such a thing is not available any other way.
this indeed would be killer.
October 27, 2013, 09:13:09 AM
TOR itself was already considering this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJD1hDKDqlo (@ min. 5:00)
Sorry, to be clear: not with Bitcoin itself.. just the micro-payments part.
October 27, 2013, 09:11:40 AM
TOR itself was already considering this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJD1hDKDqlo (@ min. 5:00)
October 27, 2013, 08:49:54 AM
Imagine TOR but optimized to be high speed as the whole network runs with BTC integrated. Bandwidth costs BTC using micro-transactions. Abuse of the network costs money/resources and the network is compensated in a free market fashion. Technologies like bitcoin are integrated, proof of work, and proof of storage, etc are all integrated. People would run Bitcoin-TOR like nodes to make a little bit of money while users enjoy high speed.
What makes it the killer app? People who want to surf anonymously AND have high speed will now have to get BTC to enjoy it! It will make a market that requires people to get bitcoin since such a thing is not available any other way.
What makes it the killer app? People who want to surf anonymously AND have high speed will now have to get BTC to enjoy it! It will make a market that requires people to get bitcoin since such a thing is not available any other way.
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