Topic: Bitcoins Missing, No Record Of The Transactions, Pls Help (Read 3500 times)
UPDATE: so I tried messing around with pywallet without much luck. I found my oldest wallet.dat file that I had stored on my drive and tried loading it. When the bitcoin client was done syncing, the 2 missing btc were sitting right there, and all the unconfirmed transactions were gone. It was a bit more than 2 so perhaps I was credited my fees for the transactions that didn't go through. Anyway, very strange thing, seems to be all good now. Where in your opinion is the safest place to keep them? not sure how much I trust this wallet... and again, thanks for all the help
Or import all of your privatekeys into an online service like blockchain.info's online wallet, generate a new wallet using your bitcoin client, and send everything from your online wallet to your new wallet again.
This seems like the simplest solution.
ok ill try, and let it go over night, get back to you tomorrow, thanks
The -rescan is done from the command line, yes. It's a feature included with the bitcoin software, no need for pywallet. But that won't solve your problem. It looks at the blockchain to see if any transaction that include your addresses are there. The transactions that are giving you the problem aren't on the blockchain, but are recorded on the wallet as unconfirmed, so -rescan will just skip them.
You really need to delete the transactions first and do the rescan after that.
You really need to delete the transactions first and do the rescan after that.
how do you do the -rescan command, command prompt? do i need to install pywallet first? is the rescan thing different from jsut loading the blockchain to a new wallet?
See my edit above.
Which operating system do you use? Maybe i could write you a guide with what I done. But if you use windows that'll be tough because I don't remember the correct paths for stuff.
Well, the first step is you install https://github.com/jackjack-jj/pywallet
It has instructions there on how to install it for Windows, Mac and Linux.
Which operating system do you use? Maybe i could write you a guide with what I done. But if you use windows that'll be tough because I don't remember the correct paths for stuff.
Well, the first step is you install https://github.com/jackjack-jj/pywallet
It has instructions there on how to install it for Windows, Mac and Linux.
Thanks, I guess i need to know how to do this stuff so ill give it shot, well see what happens
thanks
thanks
I clicked details for each unconfirmed transaction in my wallet, and then took a screen shot, saved as jpeg. Remember, these are the transactions that deducted from my wallet but didnt go anywhere
The only logical explanation I can think of (if this is even possible), is that somehow I got credited for the same transaction twice without actually being sent that amt (unless someone made a mistake and sent me 80btc out of nowhere). When I opened my wallet and realized I had nearly twice the btc I had before, i sent the entire balance of my wallet between about 10 different transactions, but all to the same place (I broke the transfers up because I was worried about something weird liek this happening). All transactions were deducted from my wallet balance, but only 78btc of 160 actually made it, while the other 82 are either non existant....or.....I don't know, but I do have the details for each and every transfer that seemed to fall off the face of the earth.
This means that overall, I have 2 less btc than I started with, but seemingly 82 less. make sense?
Also, I was charged a fee for almost all the transactions, including ones that didn't make it...
The only logical explanation I can think of (if this is even possible), is that somehow I got credited for the same transaction twice without actually being sent that amt (unless someone made a mistake and sent me 80btc out of nowhere). When I opened my wallet and realized I had nearly twice the btc I had before, i sent the entire balance of my wallet between about 10 different transactions, but all to the same place (I broke the transfers up because I was worried about something weird liek this happening). All transactions were deducted from my wallet balance, but only 78btc of 160 actually made it, while the other 82 are either non existant....or.....I don't know, but I do have the details for each and every transfer that seemed to fall off the face of the earth.
This means that overall, I have 2 less btc than I started with, but seemingly 82 less. make sense?
Also, I was charged a fee for almost all the transactions, including ones that didn't make it...
I don't know, really. Your only hope is pywallet, like I said. Delete the bad transactions, or even delete them all and let the bitcoin client get the transactions that are on the blockchain and leave you with the remaining funds.
I could try doing that for you, but there's always the trust issue, and I can't be sure if it will work.
Only one time I deleted 1 transaction from my wallet, so I'm not a professional, far from it.
At maximum, if I did it, I'd have to send you the funds that could be recovered to a new wallet you would create, as you couldn't trust this one anymore, even if I fixed it.
EDIT: Well, the good news is that I grabed a backup of my wallet and deleted all transactions on pywallet. Restarted bitcoin-qt and no balance or transactions were showing. Closed it and this time I restarted it from the command line with the -rescan command and it retrieved all my transactions from the blockchain and my balance was there, just like before. It could work on yours also.
I clicked details for each unconfirmed transaction in my wallet, and then took a screen shot, saved as jpeg. Remember, these are the transactions that deducted from my wallet but didnt go anywhere
The only logical explanation I can think of (if this is even possible), is that somehow I got credited for the same transaction twice without actually being sent that amt (unless someone made a mistake and sent me 80btc out of nowhere). When I opened my wallet and realized I had nearly twice the btc I had before, i sent the entire balance of my wallet between about 10 different transactions, but all to the same place (I broke the transfers up because I was worried about something weird liek this happening). All transactions were deducted from my wallet balance, but only 78btc of 160 actually made it, while the other 82 are either non existant....or.....I don't know, but I do have the details for each and every transfer that seemed to fall off the face of the earth.
This means that overall, I have 2 less btc than I started with, but seemingly 82 less. make sense?
Also, I was charged a fee for almost all the transactions, including ones that didn't make it...
The only logical explanation I can think of (if this is even possible), is that somehow I got credited for the same transaction twice without actually being sent that amt (unless someone made a mistake and sent me 80btc out of nowhere). When I opened my wallet and realized I had nearly twice the btc I had before, i sent the entire balance of my wallet between about 10 different transactions, but all to the same place (I broke the transfers up because I was worried about something weird liek this happening). All transactions were deducted from my wallet balance, but only 78btc of 160 actually made it, while the other 82 are either non existant....or.....I don't know, but I do have the details for each and every transfer that seemed to fall off the face of the earth.
This means that overall, I have 2 less btc than I started with, but seemingly 82 less. make sense?
Also, I was charged a fee for almost all the transactions, including ones that didn't make it...
It's hard to say.
Please clarify something: What do you mean by taking a screenshot of the unconfirmed transactions and by tx'ed the coins to an online server?
Please clarify something: What do you mean by taking a screenshot of the unconfirmed transactions and by tx'ed the coins to an online server?
I took a screenshot of all the unconfirmed transactions, when all was said and done, after I tx'ed the coins out of my wallet to an online server, I went from having 80 more coins in my wallet, to having 2 less than I originally started with, so up 80, and now down 82, or down 2 depending on how you look at it. If i delete the unconfirmed transactions than it sounds like i'm just taking a hit, and dealing with it. Where do I go from here?
thanks a bunch
thanks a bunch
thanks much appreciated
im sorry for being such a noob, but, how do i get them back now? should I be asking this somewhere else?
That link I posted above is to a thread that have a tool that you can use to delete those unconfirmed transactions.
I'll move this thread to the Technical Support forum. Maybe you can get some better answers.
im sorry for being such a noob, but, how do i get them back now? should I be asking this somewhere else?
No, your coins aren't lost. If they weren't sent you still have them as long as you have the private keys for the addresses, which you do if they show up on your wallet.
That probably happened because you closed your client before the transactions got propagated to the network.
You still have those records because sent transactions get recorded on the wallet.dat file, even if they aren't accepted by the network for some reason.
In normal circumstances your Bitcoin client should rebroadcast those transactions. Have you tryed leaving it open, and connected to the network for a couple hours straight to see if they get rebroadcasted?
That probably happened because you closed your client before the transactions got propagated to the network.
You still have those records because sent transactions get recorded on the wallet.dat file, even if they aren't accepted by the network for some reason.
In normal circumstances your Bitcoin client should rebroadcast those transactions. Have you tryed leaving it open, and connected to the network for a couple hours straight to see if they get rebroadcasted?
How about the lost transactions, how could I have a record of something that blockchain doesnt? does this mean my coins are gone forever? tyvm again.
UPDATE:
just finished reloading wallet, and the same transactions are listed, and still, when I search them, there are no records. i've got a network firewall, anti-everything, i've scanned the comp 100 times, and it looks like some of my btc are just never coming back.. now i'm afraid to tx anything back to my wallet at all, i don't understand how this could be possible
just finished reloading wallet, and the same transactions are listed, and still, when I search them, there are no records. i've got a network firewall, anti-everything, i've scanned the comp 100 times, and it looks like some of my btc are just never coming back.. now i'm afraid to tx anything back to my wallet at all, i don't understand how this could be possible
This:
Well, the only solution for you is to install pywallet and remove by hand those transactions that weren't sent.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pywallet-22-manage-your-wallet-update-required-34028
It can get a little sketchy. I hope you're good with computers.
Or import all of your privatekeys into an online service like blockchain.info's online wallet, generate a new wallet using your bitcoin client, and send everything from your online wallet to your new wallet again. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pywallet-22-manage-your-wallet-update-required-34028
It can get a little sketchy. I hope you're good with computers.
Well, the only solution for you is to install pywallet and remove by hand those transactions that weren't sent.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pywallet-22-manage-your-wallet-update-required-34028
It can get a little sketchy. I hope you're good with computers.
I whitelisted you so you can ask for help on the Technical Support forum or on the pywallet thread.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pywallet-22-manage-your-wallet-update-required-34028
It can get a little sketchy. I hope you're good with computers.
I whitelisted you so you can ask for help on the Technical Support forum or on the pywallet thread.
UPDATE:
just finished reloading wallet, and the same transactions are listed, and still, when I search them, there are no records. i've got a network firewall, anti-everything, i've scanned the comp 100 times, and it looks like some of my btc are just never coming back.. now i'm afraid to tx anything back to my wallet at all, i don't understand how this could be possible
just finished reloading wallet, and the same transactions are listed, and still, when I search them, there are no records. i've got a network firewall, anti-everything, i've scanned the comp 100 times, and it looks like some of my btc are just never coming back.. now i'm afraid to tx anything back to my wallet at all, i don't understand how this could be possible
very strange, resyncing now, ill let you know, thanks again
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