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I am really sorry but I just couldnt believe this.

Bitcoin's value increasing?

Bitcoin's value increasing? maybe the author is hiding in the moon.

Since the last quarter of last year until now, Bitcoin's value is decreasing (so as its price). If something is high in value should also be high in price.

Am I right? 

It dpends on how you use Bitcoin.
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ACtually depends on who looks at it. Some people relating the price with its value think the opposite, which is probably the wrong mindset.
hero member
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Well the value basically depends on the demand and adoption. If there isn't one, then prices do drop.

then what if mine had run out, bitcoin will increase Huh Huh

The supply is mathematically limited, and has decreasing inflation every reward halving.

Put simply, if demand continues to grow, the value can only eventually go up, because supply will slow to a trickle, and then stop increasing permanently.
sr. member
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Well the value basically depends on the demand and adoption. If there isn't one, then prices do drop.

then what if mine had run out, bitcoin will increase Huh Huh
newbie
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Use value YES
Speculative value...not difficult to guess.
legendary
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I am really sorry but I just couldnt believe this.

Bitcoin's value increasing?

Bitcoin's value increasing? maybe the author is hiding in the moon.

Since the last quarter of last year until now, Bitcoin's value is decreasing (so as its price). If something is high in value should also be high in price.

Am I right? 

Not completely.
In business world, value and price are not always on the same level.
Sometimes people can react very emotionally in market and sell shares from some very good company for very low price.
Smart people know that when price of share is low, this is perfect time to buy it, not sell.
They sell only when price is high.
If value of some company, its assets, is high, price will eventually grow again, soon or later.
I think that we will soon see the same scenario for BTC so now is very good time to buy BTC, not to sell.
 
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Well the value basically depends on the demand and adoption. If there isn't one, then prices do drop.

and then a bit later difficulty goes down....and say with a price of 150 or 100 usd ..the big data farms have to shut down (like they did with cloud mining)
due to costs....and yipiee skippie i can fire up my knc jupiter 565gh miner again and mine at an elec loss lots of bitcoin on it again on the 'hopeful' bounce
back from the dead in price etc that bitcoin has done in the past

(if knc miners went belly up for overextension due to this and then bitcoin came back slower/longer diff curve and more decentralized after the fact I
could deal with that)

but again that begs the question would btc come back at less then 100 usd coin in the adoption arena and infrastructure in the future for apps/use and
adoption with that big a hit or would it die on the vine

me ...I'm holding and hoping ...price goes up and slow growth beyond 220 usd from here on...but if not ..then difficulty will reflect such and I'll mine
more coin (at the usual elec loss) and hope for another bitcoin bounce from the dead like it has done in the past.....

like Vegas I've  placed my bet...will ride it out...but something like sub par 100 usd btc would really hurt the large farms....like the current price has
killed cloud mining ....with their temp shutdown so some sites say......the sub 100 usd price would likely shut down over extended data halls unless they too
make the long bet and just mine like hell at a $$$$ loss elec wise vs btc price...but more then likely they would also
just slow/shut down till price came back on a hope and a prayer

so them's the plays i guess crash and burn or rise and climb never a dull moment with bitcoin! Smiley

my 2c worth (bitcoin/alts are mysterious to me!) Smiley
 
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Well the value basically depends on the demand and adoption. If there isn't one, then prices do drop.
legendary
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If you read my post again, you will see why the price isn't quite as high now.  Today, you can mine a bitcoin for $200.  In the future, it will cost over $1000 to mine a bitcoin. 
No, no, you don't understand mining at all. The price of Bitcoin drives mining activity and difficulty, not the other way round. All miners are competing for a fixed size block of coins. The cost of mining a Bitcoin for the most efficient players will always be below its price, or the miners will drop out. This does not work like other commodities, where an increase in price causes an increase in production.
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I am really sorry but I just couldnt believe this.

Bitcoin's value increasing?

Bitcoin's value increasing? maybe the author is hiding in the moon.

Since the last quarter of last year until now, Bitcoin's value is decreasing (so as its price). If something is high in value should also be high in price.

Am I right? 

Are you high? Maybe you are.

Have you seen the recent news?

If not.. Then read again.
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In the sense that value = usefulness and similar qualities then yes, Bitcoin's value continues to increase as more places accept it week by week.  Over the longer term it will continues to increase in financial terms also.  I've said it about Litecoin and the same applies to Bitcoin that I'm pretty sure we've recently reached the bottom and the only way is up now.  

Incidentally, the author has not worded it well when he says
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Today, the maximum amount of bitcoin available is 21 million,
This will eventually be the maximum ever but today there are only less than 14 million.


They always get it wrong. I've seen lots of new reporters saying bitcoin has an unlimited supply value lol.

They just can't understand anything out of the centralized power system they serve, and if they do, will try to undermine it.
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It doesn't matter what 'real' people believed it was worth. The volume and trades were still faked

Make up your mind.  Does it matter if it was faked?  Are fake trades any different than real trades from real people?  I think it matters.  Plenty of people think BTC is worth $1000, but there aren't enough of them and they don't have enough money to buy all the BTC in the world.  Yet.
newbie
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The price went to $1000 because people started realizing Bitcoin's future value. When more people use Bitcoin, and when the block reward halves, it will cost more to mine and it will be harder and more expensive to get.  So they started paying the future price.  It will still be worth that in the future, but other people started realizing that it's not quite there yet.  

And some people suspect that the price is being held down by exchanges selling more BTC than they have, using a fractional reserve, so that there are more BTC available on market than actually exist.  If the supply is artificially increased that way, it keeps the price down.

Didn't it go to 1k because of fake insider trading on mt.gox? If this was true the price should still be high because bitcoin still has massive future potential value.

MtGox wasn't the only exchange, and the bots weren't the only ones trading.  Therefore, plenty of real people believed that it was worth $1000, and they willingly paid that much for it.

No but gox was the biggest exchange at the time and the price was due to artificial inflation and it had a knock on effect. It doesn't matter what 'real' people believed it was worth. The volume and trades were still faked and the collapse happend and now we see likely what is its true price.
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The price went to $1000 because people started realizing Bitcoin's future value.  When more people use Bitcoin, and when the block reward halves, it will cost more to mine and it will be harder and more expensive to get.  So they started paying the future price.  It will still be worth that in the future, but other people started realizing that it's not quite there yet. 

And some people suspect that the price is being held down by exchanges selling more BTC than they have, using a fractional reserve, so that there are more BTC available on market than actually exist.  If the supply is artificially increased that way, it keeps the price down.

Didn't it go to 1k because of fake insider trading on mt.gox? If this was true the price should still be high because bitcoin still has massive future potential value.

MtGox wasn't the only exchange, and the bots weren't the only ones trading.  Therefore, plenty of real people believed that it was worth $1000, and they willingly paid that much for it.

If you read my post again, you will see why the price isn't quite as high now.  Today, you can mine a bitcoin for $200.  In the future, it will cost over $1000 to mine a bitcoin.  So people paid $1000, because it will be worth more than that in the future.  But other people sold for $200, because they can make money doing that today. 
newbie
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The price went to $1000 because people started realizing Bitcoin's future value.  When more people use Bitcoin, and when the block reward halves, it will cost more to mine and it will be harder and more expensive to get.  So they started paying the future price.  It will still be worth that in the future, but other people started realizing that it's not quite there yet. 

And some people suspect that the price is being held down by exchanges selling more BTC than they have, using a fractional reserve, so that there are more BTC available on market than actually exist.  If the supply is artificially increased that way, it keeps the price down.

Didn't it go to 1k because of fake insider trading on mt.gox? If this was true the price should still be high because bitcoin still has massive future potential value.
Q7
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For me, I'll put aside price stability. In fact you can't do anything on that as speculation and trading are bound to take place. Instead measure the "value" based on the level of adoption and acceptance among the people. I'm more concerned on that than anything else. It's the fundamental that actually sets things right.
legendary
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In Satoshi I Trust
I am really sorry but I just couldnt believe this.

Bitcoin's value increasing?

Bitcoin's value increasing? maybe the author is hiding in the moon.

Since the last quarter of last year until now, Bitcoin's value is decreasing (so as its price). If something is high in value should also be high in price.

Am I right? 

learn more about BTC and you will understand it Smiley
legendary
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In the sense that value = usefulness and similar qualities then yes, Bitcoin's value continues to increase as more places accept it week by week.  Over the longer term it will continues to increase in financial terms also.  I've said it about Litecoin and the same applies to Bitcoin that I'm pretty sure we've recently reached the bottom and the only way is up now.  

Incidentally, the author has not worded it well when he says
Quote
Today, the maximum amount of bitcoin available is 21 million,
This will eventually be the maximum ever but today there are only less than 14 million.


They always get it wrong. I've seen lots of new reporters saying bitcoin has an unlimited supply value lol.

They seem to be confusing the divisibility of Bitcoin with the supply.... Cheez.
legendary
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In the sense that value = usefulness and similar qualities then yes, Bitcoin's value continues to increase as more places accept it week by week.  Over the longer term it will continues to increase in financial terms also.  I've said it about Litecoin and the same applies to Bitcoin that I'm pretty sure we've recently reached the bottom and the only way is up now.  

Incidentally, the author has not worded it well when he says
Quote
Today, the maximum amount of bitcoin available is 21 million,
This will eventually be the maximum ever but today there are only less than 14 million.


They always get it wrong. I've seen lots of new reporters saying bitcoin has an unlimited supply value lol.
sr. member
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The value (usefulness or adoption) is increasing, however the price is dropping, has stablized recently.
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