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Do you guys think it's more secure to use this than a XP machine with a load of pirated software installed?
I mean, perhaps it's easier to keep an Android phone locked down than it is to keep a laptop secure.
- If you use whole disk encryption on Android ICS and a pin code... does that protect the wallet?
- where does Bitcoinspinner store the wallet file in case we want to work with it manually? (encrypt it manually or back it up)
Just to remind, if you use this be sure to note the private key because many people have a habit of updating to a custom ROM and then wiping everything.
I was thinking of having a phone purely for secure applications with open source stuff only on it. Having this separte sandbox like system of a separate phone could be more secure than trying to keep a whole O/S secure...
Note that you can generate QR codes online for easy backup restore too
I agree that we need this, and will see if it can be added without cluttering up the UI
Maybe it's because bitcoin was designed to be a currency on its own.
When you receive your bank statement, does it convert your dollars in euros?
When you receive your bank statement, does it convert your dollars in euros?
No one is asking bitcoin the protocol or currency to change in the slightest. Simply as a convenience for the user; to have wallet apps include a currency calculator so they don't have to go to a website and dig out a calculator.
And incidentally: given that bitcoin is an international currency without borders, and that it hasn't yet displaced every other national currency in existence, it seems a little arrogant to assume that our "bitcoin bank statement" shouldn't be able to convert to and from dollars, euros, rubles, gold or anything else the user finds convenient for measuring value.
I wonder: have you ever actually used bitcoins for anything? My friend and I settle our small debts to each other with bitcoins. I paid a restaurant bill in GBP and he paid me back in BTC, while we were sat at the table. Your idea is that we should get the restaurant to quote us in bitcoins is it?
You're right, right now bitcoin has the greatest value as a payment system, not a currency. We have to consider this.
Maybe it's because bitcoin was designed to be a currency on its own.
When you receive your bank statement, does it convert your dollars in euros?
I thought the same, but bitcoin is still new and has to cater to today's needs.When you receive your bank statement, does it convert your dollars in euros?
By the way, a good bank account management system does this. The Swiss are quite good at it. Choose your desired currency, and everything can be converted on your statements, at least on the electronic ones.
Maybe it's because bitcoin was designed to be a currency on its own.
When you receive your bank statement, does it convert your dollars in euros?
When you receive your bank statement, does it convert your dollars in euros?
This feature is essentially missing from every Bitcoin wallet out there. You have to check bitcoincharts or some other site every time and use a calculator if you want to pay a certain fiat amount to a person. It sucks.
... except blockchain.info's android (and I guess iPhone) wallet.
It's got full currency conversion support.
Just one thing thats really missing.
When sending funds, you can only select how many Bitcoins.
I often find myself wanting to send Bitcoins of a certain amount of value.
But this is very difficult, I have to exit the app and calculate the value and than enter the amount of Bitcoins to send.
If I could just select.
Send Bitcoins
A with a total value of X in currency y.
B N number of Bitcoins.
This would be a huge improvement since now I could go to a shop
ask them to accept Bitcoins.
And easily select to send the correct amount at once.
+100When sending funds, you can only select how many Bitcoins.
I often find myself wanting to send Bitcoins of a certain amount of value.
But this is very difficult, I have to exit the app and calculate the value and than enter the amount of Bitcoins to send.
If I could just select.
Send Bitcoins
A with a total value of X in currency y.
B N number of Bitcoins.
This would be a huge improvement since now I could go to a shop
ask them to accept Bitcoins.
And easily select to send the correct amount at once.
This feature is essentially missing from every Bitcoin wallet out there. You have to check bitcoincharts or some other site every time and use a calculator if you want to pay a certain fiat amount to a person. It sucks.
Just one thing thats really missing.
When sending funds, you can only select how many Bitcoins.
I often find myself wanting to send Bitcoins of a certain amount of value.
But this is very difficult, I have to exit the app and calculate the value and than enter the amount of Bitcoins to send.
If I could just select.
Send Bitcoins
A with a total value of X in currency y.
B N number of Bitcoins.
This would be a huge improvement since now I could go to a shop
ask them to accept Bitcoins.
And easily select to send the correct amount at once.
When sending funds, you can only select how many Bitcoins.
I often find myself wanting to send Bitcoins of a certain amount of value.
But this is very difficult, I have to exit the app and calculate the value and than enter the amount of Bitcoins to send.
If I could just select.
Send Bitcoins
A with a total value of X in currency y.
B N number of Bitcoins.
This would be a huge improvement since now I could go to a shop
ask them to accept Bitcoins.
And easily select to send the correct amount at once.
The application model used by both Android and iPhone is much more secure that your standard desktop computer. Apps are sandboxed and cannot touch each others "private parts"
While this is true in theory, smartphones can still not be regarded entirely secure by design. On many Android phones it is easy to obtain root access, which breaks all security, if the user can be tricked into allowing it. Malware could and will go that way.My recommendation is either to use a cheap, old smartphone with only BitcoinSpinner and a few other trusted programs on it, or use your normal smartphone, but be extremely hesitant and vigilant when it comes to installing other software.
Just checking. Bought a new phone and transferred my wallet nicely - then uninstalled BitcoinSpinner from the old phone. That gets rid of all copies of the secret key in the old phone, correct?
Short of literally wiping the phones storage system, there's always a chance of the key being left behind. I'd spend the money to a new wallet.
BitcoinSpinner uses app-private storage for all its data (including private keys). Whenever you delete the BS from your device all data is gone along with the sandbox it lived in.
Thanks Jan
Just checking. Bought a new phone and transferred my wallet nicely - then uninstalled BitcoinSpinner from the old phone. That gets rid of all copies of the secret key in the old phone, correct?
Short of literally wiping the phones storage system, there's always a chance of the key being left behind. I'd spend the money to a new wallet.
BitcoinSpinner uses app-private storage for all its data (including private keys). Whenever you delete the BS from your device all data is gone along with the sandbox it lived in.
I got that startup bug again. Launching BS I get a black screen with just the title bar. Pressing the 'back' button on my phone takes me to the main screen and then everything seems to work. So its really not a big issue, just a minor inconvenience. Using V0.5.3b
While this is a minor issue, I do have it on my radar. However, I have not been able to reproduce it on my own devices. Cheers, it's a great piece of software.
I think we need to document how to send funds easily from desktop to spinner. For me I copied the address to the Android clipboard and emailed it. Can it be shared via the android sharing thing. This ought to be written down somewhere perhaps. This is probably better than using desktop/laptop webcam as I guess QR code reader aren't common on the desktop.. could be a webbased one I suppose.
I think we need to document how to send funds easily from desktop to spinner. For me I copied the address to the Android clipboard and emailed it. Can it be shared via the android sharing thing. This ought to be written down somewhere perhaps. This is probably better than using desktop/laptop webcam as I guess QR code reader aren't common on the desktop.. could be a webbased one I suppose.
You can click the textual address on the main screen and share using various methods.
I have a 'Start up tip' on my list of features, which optionally shows you a BitcoinSpinner tip (from a list of tips) on startup. This would be a natural place to add this hint.
The other thing I guess is that some websites like BitcoinTorrentz don't generate a QR code for you to pay them with. I wonder the best way to generate a QR code off that.
In general I think that Bitcoin on mobile devices is going to be big, and we need to educate sites that support Bitcoin to show QR codes. Another alternative is to let the site use a bitcoin URI, which both MultiBit, Android Bitcoin Wallet, and BitcoinSpinner accepts.If you add this to your web-page you can click on them and launch your wallet:
Code:
Why do all this? Well, perhaps it's easier to keep a phone secure than a desktop and I kind of like the QR code thing and I love BitcoinSpinner that much!
I totally agree. The application model used by both Android and iPhone is much more secure that your standard desktop computer. Apps are sandboxed and cannot touch each others "private parts"
Just checking. Bought a new phone and transferred my wallet nicely - then uninstalled BitcoinSpinner from the old phone. That gets rid of all copies of the secret key in the old phone, correct?
Short of literally wiping the phones storage system, there's always a chance of the key being left behind. I'd spend the money to a new wallet.
Just checking. Bought a new phone and transferred my wallet nicely - then uninstalled BitcoinSpinner from the old phone. That gets rid of all copies of the secret key in the old phone, correct?
I got that startup bug again. Launching BS I get a black screen with just the title bar. Pressing the 'back' button on my phone takes me to the main screen and then everything seems to work. So its really not a big issue, just a minor inconvenience. Using V0.5.3b
Cheers, it's a great piece of software.
I think we need to document how to send funds easily from desktop to spinner. For me I copied the address to the Android clipboard and emailed it. Can it be shared via the android sharing thing. This ought to be written down somewhere perhaps. This is probably better than using desktop/laptop webcam as I guess QR code reader aren't common on the desktop.. could be a webbased one I suppose.
The other thing I guess is that some websites like BitcoinTorrentz don't generate a QR code for you to pay them with. I wonder the best way to generate a QR code off that.
Why do all this? Well, perhaps it's easier to keep a phone secure than a desktop and I kind of like the QR code thing and I love BitcoinSpinner that much!
I think we need to document how to send funds easily from desktop to spinner. For me I copied the address to the Android clipboard and emailed it. Can it be shared via the android sharing thing. This ought to be written down somewhere perhaps. This is probably better than using desktop/laptop webcam as I guess QR code reader aren't common on the desktop.. could be a webbased one I suppose.
The other thing I guess is that some websites like BitcoinTorrentz don't generate a QR code for you to pay them with. I wonder the best way to generate a QR code off that.
Why do all this? Well, perhaps it's easier to keep a phone secure than a desktop and I kind of like the QR code thing and I love BitcoinSpinner that much!
I love the simplicity.
One thing though,
I emailed the private key to myself because at the time I didn't know how to email the QR code. However, if I use that private key to try to generate a QR code it won't restore.
I guess the QU backup codes contain more than just the private key.
Is there an online wallet that can import a private key? It's a small amount just for testing
One thing though,
I emailed the private key to myself because at the time I didn't know how to email the QR code. However, if I use that private key to try to generate a QR code it won't restore.
I guess the QU backup codes contain more than just the private key.
Is there an online wallet that can import a private key? It's a small amount just for testing
There was a bug with the 'copy to clipboard' button that caused your Bitcoin address to be copied instead of your backup code or private key (the QR code however is correct).
This has been fixed in the latest release 0.5.3b.
The backup/restore QR code is not your private key, but contains information on how to derive your private key.
The private key that you can export under advanced settings allows you to evacuate from BitcoinSpinner. It is not recommended that you use this to experiment with spending from two wallets having the same keys at the same time, as it may cause accidental double spend attempts that may result in inconsistencies. The private key is in SIPA format and can be imported at for instance Blockchain.info and I guess also mtgox and armory for sure.
I love the simplicity.
One thing though,
I emailed the private key to myself because at the time I didn't know how to email the QR code. However, if I use that private key to try to generate a QR code it won't restore.
I guess the QU backup codes contain more than just the private key.
Is there an online wallet that can import a private key? It's a small amount just for testing
One thing though,
I emailed the private key to myself because at the time I didn't know how to email the QR code. However, if I use that private key to try to generate a QR code it won't restore.
I guess the QU backup codes contain more than just the private key.
Is there an online wallet that can import a private key? It's a small amount just for testing
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