Bitcointalk and CMC continue to lose influence over cryptomarket - page 4.

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Quote from: ralle14 on September 14, 2018, 03:22:17 PM

Quote from: KingScorpio on September 14, 2018, 11:34:56 AM

nope its true according to

https://www.similarweb.com/website/bitcointalk.org

bitcoin talk is losing around 2 million users per month since march, i think users will migrate to other forums, doing a linear prognosis then we can expect this forum to be dead in around 9 months

regards

The site didn't say if it's unique visits or not. I don't think this forum would be dead in 9 months those are just stats that can be easily manipulated.
That's good if they're moving to a different forum then it means there would be less spam and posts for me to report. Also you can't confirm if most of those visitors are holding or trading crypto.

if the loss of 2 million per month continues it will be 0 in 9 month i expect however a softening up a hard core will remain but this forum might ended lose its crowdiness in max 18 months

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Quote from: dothebeats on September 14, 2018, 12:56:27 PM

I don't think that websites, especially bitcointalk and CMC dictate the actual sentiment of the market towards any given coin. People might lose interest browsing over these sites knowing that viable and truthful information isn't found within the constraints of the said forum but that wouldn't stop them from trading bitcoin just because they aren't visiting both. Most pros in the trading scene don't visit these sites, they flock somewhere else wherein noise-to-signal ratio is low and trolls aren't around.

I understand that you're trying hard, but please, try harder when it comes to trolling.

ohm no the decentralisation of the cryptoindexes will lead to a leasing, glenn never allowed the listening of cryptos with bigger marketcapitalisation than bitcoin,

with 100s of indexes around they sooner or later will have different cryptos on them list different coins and then look very different from each other.

cmc losing influence means also that this forums founding members are losing influence over the market

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Quote from: KingScorpio on September 14, 2018, 11:34:56 AM

nope its true according to

https://www.similarweb.com/website/bitcointalk.org

bitcoin talk is losing around 2 million users per month since march, i think users will migrate to other forums, doing a linear prognosis then we can expect this forum to be dead in around 9 months

regards

The site didn't say if it's unique visits or not. I don't think this forum would be dead in 9 months those are just stats that can be easily manipulated.
That's good if they're moving to a different forum then it means there would be less spam and posts for me to report. Also you can't confirm if most of those visitors are holding or trading crypto.

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Quote from: mk4 on September 14, 2018, 11:51:35 AM

Quote from: KingScorpio on September 14, 2018, 11:34:56 AM

nope its true according to

https://www.similarweb.com/website/bitcointalk.org

bitcoin talk is losing around 2 million users per month since march, i think users will migrate to other forums, doing a linear prognosis then we can expect this forum to be dead in around 9 months

Hhahahha no. I don't think so. Where will they migrate? bitcoin.com? I don't think so. Tongue

bitcointalk has been getting less users because of the new merit system; and I'm pretty sure about that.

I'm guessing the same. I came across a thread in Meta that seems to confirm:

Quote from: Vod on August 03, 2018, 06:23:28 PM

Rather than make a long post, I will just say look at the "Archived Profiles" at the top right of https://bpip.org

A few seconds later, refresh the page - see how the number is going up? Yes, there were (are?) that many people signing up per minute on this forum...

Most new accounts are not making any posts at all, meaning three months later they become archived.

This is a GOOD sign. Before merit introduction, most of these profiles were making garbage posts.

We just need to wait until all the shitposter sMerit has been used up. Then there will be NO incentive and no forum posts about bitcointalk being a "lottery win".

Quote from: mk4 on September 14, 2018, 11:51:35 AM

Also, dead in 9 months? You wish. I don't see this forum dying even in 9 years.

Agreed. I think there's two things happening. Interest and hype across all cryptocurrency-related mediums has died down. And it's only natural that things like old school forums lose overall market share as more mainstream news and finance sites enter the game.

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Quote from: KingScorpio on September 14, 2018, 11:08:00 AM

https://www.similarweb.com/website/bitcointalk.org

https://www.similarweb.com/website/coinmarketcap.com

bitcoin talk continues to lose influence over the cryptoindustry,

same is the case with coinmarketcap.

with bitcoinfounders losing the grip bitcoins value will also collapse

so dont expect a mooning of bitcoin towards 50k there wont be one.

As you mature in cryptocurrency, you rely less on the information from bitcointalk and coinmarketcap.

and there is no direct correlation in bitcointalk and bitcoin price. This is just plain non-sense.

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Quote from: KingScorpio on September 14, 2018, 11:08:00 AM

https://www.similarweb.com/website/bitcointalk.org

https://www.similarweb.com/website/coinmarketcap.com

bitcoin talk continues to lose influence over the cryptoindustry,

same is the case with coinmarketcap.

with bitcoinfounders losing the grip bitcoins value will also collapse

so dont expect a mooning of bitcoin towards 50k there wont be one.

Whether you think there will or won't be a moon, this theory doesn't make much sense.

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remember the days when bitcointalk was majority american.
seems now bitcointalk is majority russian

13.33% Russia
9.42% United States
7.47% Ukraine
4.58% Turkey
4.45% Brazil
... and so on

as a brit i got used to using $$ and american slang. now i might have to learn some russian to talk to the forum majority in their terms

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Quote from: KingScorpio on September 14, 2018, 12:18:39 PM

bitcoin cash and bitcoin gold suffered much more than bitcoin with an amplifier faktor more.

Really? Is that even worth talking about? BCash and BTG are altcoins not adding anything of value to this space. In all cases these are the coins hit the hardest during any sort of declining market.

CMC is an exchange traffic booster, not a price driver of any form. If you look at the traffic stats of most exchanges, then CMC is the first or second to pop up as traffic provider, which also explains why certain exchanges desperately try to inflate their volumes to rank up. The higher your CMC exchange rank is, the more traffic you can expect.

Top 3 exchanges in terms of volumes;

CMC is the second largest traffic provider; https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/binance.com
CMC is the first traffic provider; https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/huobi.pro
CMC is the first traffic provider; https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/okex.com

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Quote from: KingScorpio on September 14, 2018, 11:08:00 AM

https://www.similarweb.com/website/bitcointalk.org

https://www.similarweb.com/website/coinmarketcap.com

bitcoin talk continues to lose influence over the cryptoindustry,

same is the case with coinmarketcap.

with bitcoinfounders losing the grip bitcoins value will also collapse

so dont expect a mooning of bitcoin towards 50k there wont be one.

In my point of view,earlier most people were unfamiliar about bitcoin and cryptos and so they used bitcointalk to learn about bitcoin.But now with media continuously delivering crypto news,even people from the backward countries know about bitcoin today.So there is no need for them to specifically visit bitcointalk and get news about bitcoin.Now they could get it from any of the available websites.

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I don't see any sense at in this post. What has new forums and cryptomarket rating sites got to with the price of bitcoin dropping? More Bitcoin services means more awareness and even higher prices.

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Quote from: kingcolex on September 14, 2018, 11:11:49 AM

So your logic is that Bitcointalk must be in control for a price to increase? What if we are now getting more traditional investors who watch cnbc or fox business for their crypto news or read the wall Street journal. Is this bad for the price in your mind?

I'm equally surprised how the writer wants BitcoinTalk and CMC to influence the price of Bitcoin and altcoins in general? Surely if any predictions from such website goes wrong then the writer or poster will surely be nailed down.

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I don't think that websites, especially bitcointalk and CMC dictate the actual sentiment of the market towards any given coin. People might lose interest browsing over these sites knowing that viable and truthful information isn't found within the constraints of the said forum but that wouldn't stop them from trading bitcoin just because they aren't visiting both. Most pros in the trading scene don't visit these sites, they flock somewhere else wherein noise-to-signal ratio is low and trolls aren't around.

I understand that you're trying hard, but please, try harder when it comes to trolling.

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Quote from: KingScorpio on September 14, 2018, 12:18:39 PM

Quote from: mk4 on September 14, 2018, 12:15:41 PM

Quote from: KingScorpio on September 14, 2018, 12:07:41 PM

Quote from: kingcolex on September 14, 2018, 11:52:47 AM

This doesn't mean it relates to the site, this could be as simple as cloudflare blocking spam attacks or Indians who come to farm sig campaigns and spam like crazy stopping due to the issue of India's ban and they can't exchange for rupees.

no one knows but its still a 2 million loss per month over last 5 months,

i think people will migrate into various cryptoforums, and the market will decentralise away from bitcoin.

i have found in redit a good alternative so far. we will se more communities comming up

What the heck does "decentralise away from bitcoin" even mean? I don't get how you see decentralization as a bad thing, as it's definitely a very good thing.

Also, you still haven't explained how you think these things affect the price in a negative manner.

less attention, less demand, less liquidity,

bitcoin cash and bitcoin gold suffered much more than bitcoin with an amplifier faktor more.

regards

So you're saying that websites having less traffic due to competition with other sites in the same niche(bitcoin) is a bad thing? How do you think that makes bitcoin end up having less demand and less liquidity exactly? Still doesn't make sense to be honest.

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Quote from: mk4 on September 14, 2018, 12:15:41 PM

Quote from: KingScorpio on September 14, 2018, 12:07:41 PM

Quote from: kingcolex on September 14, 2018, 11:52:47 AM

This doesn't mean it relates to the site, this could be as simple as cloudflare blocking spam attacks or Indians who come to farm sig campaigns and spam like crazy stopping due to the issue of India's ban and they can't exchange for rupees.

no one knows but its still a 2 million loss per month over last 5 months,

i think people will migrate into various cryptoforums, and the market will decentralise away from bitcoin.

i have found in redit a good alternative so far. we will se more communities comming up

What the heck does "decentralise away from bitcoin" even mean? I don't get how you see decentralization as a bad thing, as it's definitely a very good thing.

Also, you still haven't explained how you think these things affect the price in a negative manner.

less attention, less demand, less liquidity,

bitcoin cash and bitcoin gold suffered much more than bitcoin with an amplifier faktor more.

regards

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Quote from: KingScorpio on September 14, 2018, 11:34:56 AM

Quote from: kingcolex on September 14, 2018, 11:29:10 AM

Quote from: KingScorpio on September 14, 2018, 11:26:58 AM

Quote from: kingcolex on September 14, 2018, 11:24:32 AM

Quote from: mk4 on September 14, 2018, 11:16:58 AM

How is bitcoin not going to reach 50k and bitcointalk/CMC losing influence connected? I don't get the connection. Or is there something I missed? Bitcointalk and CMC losing influence is actually a good thing, whether you like it or not. The biggest names losing influence means that there's good competition going on. Which is good overall to decrease centralization in the space.

That and we have actual business news organizations starting to cover Bitcoin and it's movements, Bitcointalk will continue on but with a lot more altcoin discussion. Which is fine especially if the main developer area stays untouched we don't need or want the spam in there anyways.

bitcoiners evovle to a lonely pow cult,

problem is in a millenia old human systematic.

money printers are only servants not the long term rulers.

royal minting in uk doesnt rule uk and is its richest entity, why should the technitions around crypto be different?

industry will evolve away from them.

You have shown yourself to be a fool, we are in the middle of Bitcoin taking massive amounts of market share back from failing altcoins and ICOs aren't launching nearly as often.

Keep spewing your false bullshit.

nope its true according to

https://www.similarweb.com/website/bitcointalk.org

bitcoin talk is losing around 2 million users per month since march, i think users will migrate to other forums, doing a linear prognosis then we can expect this forum to be dead in around 9 months

coinmarketcap loses 14.22 million users per month due to decentralisation of the market. coinmarket cap has also max 10 months left but i doubt linear prognosis works well so double the time would be more realistic as it will be a recessive loss.

regards

This doesn't mean it relates to the site, this could be as simple as cloudflare blocking spam attacks or Indians who come to farm sig campaigns and spam like crazy stopping due to the issue of India's ban and they can't exchange for rupees.

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Quote from: KingScorpio on September 14, 2018, 12:07:41 PM

Quote from: kingcolex on September 14, 2018, 11:52:47 AM

This doesn't mean it relates to the site, this could be as simple as cloudflare blocking spam attacks or Indians who come to farm sig campaigns and spam like crazy stopping due to the issue of India's ban and they can't exchange for rupees.

no one knows but its still a 2 million loss per month over last 5 months,

i think people will migrate into various cryptoforums, and the market will decentralise away from bitcoin.

i have found in redit a good alternative so far. we will se more communities comming up

What the heck does "decentralise away from bitcoin" even mean? I don't get how you see decentralization as a bad thing, as it's definitely a very good thing.

Also, you still haven't explained how you think these things affect the price in a negative manner.

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on September 14, 2018, 11:44:03 AM

Wait a second!

Are you saying that during the massive bullrun there were more views than during the month long bear market!? Well I never! (/s)

well thats logical because the bullrun and the price hike attracted peoples attention

the constant losing what you call "bear market" distracted peoples attention towards other investments

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Quote from: kingcolex on September 14, 2018, 11:52:47 AM

Quote from: KingScorpio on September 14, 2018, 11:34:56 AM

Quote from: kingcolex on September 14, 2018, 11:29:10 AM

Quote from: KingScorpio on September 14, 2018, 11:26:58 AM

Quote from: kingcolex on September 14, 2018, 11:24:32 AM

Quote from: mk4 on September 14, 2018, 11:16:58 AM

How is bitcoin not going to reach 50k and bitcointalk/CMC losing influence connected? I don't get the connection. Or is there something I missed? Bitcointalk and CMC losing influence is actually a good thing, whether you like it or not. The biggest names losing influence means that there's good competition going on. Which is good overall to decrease centralization in the space.

That and we have actual business news organizations starting to cover Bitcoin and it's movements, Bitcointalk will continue on but with a lot more altcoin discussion. Which is fine especially if the main developer area stays untouched we don't need or want the spam in there anyways.

bitcoiners evovle to a lonely pow cult,

problem is in a millenia old human systematic.

money printers are only servants not the long term rulers.

royal minting in uk doesnt rule uk and is its richest entity, why should the technitions around crypto be different?

industry will evolve away from them.

You have shown yourself to be a fool, we are in the middle of Bitcoin taking massive amounts of market share back from failing altcoins and ICOs aren't launching nearly as often.

Keep spewing your false bullshit.

nope its true according to

https://www.similarweb.com/website/bitcointalk.org

bitcoin talk is losing around 2 million users per month since march, i think users will migrate to other forums, doing a linear prognosis then we can expect this forum to be dead in around 9 months

coinmarketcap loses 14.22 million users per month due to decentralisation of the market. coinmarket cap has also max 10 months left but i doubt linear prognosis works well so double the time would be more realistic as it will be a recessive loss.

regards

This doesn't mean it relates to the site, this could be as simple as cloudflare blocking spam attacks or Indians who come to farm sig campaigns and spam like crazy stopping due to the issue of India's ban and they can't exchange for rupees.

no one knows but its still a 2 million loss per month over last 5 months,

i think people will migrate into various cryptoforums, and the market will decentralise away from bitcoin.

i have found in redit a good alternative so far. we will se more communities comming up

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Quote from: KingScorpio on September 14, 2018, 11:34:56 AM

nope its true according to

https://www.similarweb.com/website/bitcointalk.org

bitcoin talk is losing around 2 million users per month since march, i think users will migrate to other forums, doing a linear prognosis then we can expect this forum to be dead in around 9 months

Hhahahha no. I don't think so. Where will they migrate? bitcoin.com? I don't think so. Tongue

bitcointalk has been getting less users because of the new merit system; and I'm pretty sure about that.

Also, dead in 9 months? You wish. I don't see this forum dying even in 9 years.

Quote from: KingScorpio on September 14, 2018, 11:34:56 AM

coinmarketcap loses 14.22 million users per month due to decentralisation of the market. coinmarket cap has also max 10 months left but i doubt linear prognosis works well so double the time would be more realistic as it will be a recessive loss.

So? That's because there's better competition. We have LiveCoinWatch now, which some people prefer over Coinmarketcap. I don't see how you see this as a bad thing.

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Quote from: KingScorpio on September 14, 2018, 11:34:56 AM

Quote from: kingcolex on September 14, 2018, 11:29:10 AM

Quote from: KingScorpio on September 14, 2018, 11:26:58 AM

Quote from: kingcolex on September 14, 2018, 11:24:32 AM

Quote from: mk4 on September 14, 2018, 11:16:58 AM

How is bitcoin not going to reach 50k and bitcointalk/CMC losing influence connected? I don't get the connection. Or is there something I missed? Bitcointalk and CMC losing influence is actually a good thing, whether you like it or not. The biggest names losing influence means that there's good competition going on. Which is good overall to decrease centralization in the space.

That and we have actual business news organizations starting to cover Bitcoin and it's movements, Bitcointalk will continue on but with a lot more altcoin discussion. Which is fine especially if the main developer area stays untouched we don't need or want the spam in there anyways.

bitcoiners evovle to a lonely pow cult,

problem is in a millenia old human systematic.

money printers are only servants not the long term rulers.

royal minting in uk doesnt rule uk and is its richest entity, why should the technitions around crypto be different?

industry will evolve away from them.

You have shown yourself to be a fool, we are in the middle of Bitcoin taking massive amounts of market share back from failing altcoins and ICOs aren't launching nearly as often.

Keep spewing your false bullshit.

nope its true according to

https://www.similarweb.com/website/bitcointalk.org

bitcoin talk is losing around 2 million users per month since march, i think users will migrate to other forums, doing a linear prognosis then we can expect this forum to be dead in around 9 months

coinmarketcap loses 14.22 million users per month due to decentralisation of the market. coinmarket cap has also max 10 months left but i doubt linear prognosis works well so double the time would be more realistic as it will be a recessive loss.

regards

If bitcointalk is speculated to collapse and not exist in 8 months time to come, what next?

Or what other forums can perform as bitcointalk?
Are they in existence already and
How prepared are they?

Those are my curiosity. Wondering allowed maybe.

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