Topic: Bitcointalk Christmas Charity Programme (Read 413 times)

OP, where're you? you wanna an discuss about the charity, right?

I've seen this thread a few days ago, but OP hasn't explained their idea yet.
Are you still pondering?

I'm not sure why charity programme has to be linked with Christmas. I'm rather linked to donate to specific cases. Something like people suffering from wars, earthquakes, flooding, diseases like cancer and etc. I'm sure that there is plenty of people and organizations who are waiting for help and you can donate them without making charity programme on Bitcointalk.
Don't understand me wrong, but even with just good intentions, things may end not so well. We already saw such cases here. Transparency is most important thing, you have to count every Satoshi that you spend and show everything in public By collecting money from other people you take big responsibility and if something will go wrong, it will be your fault

"Christmas charity"? I'm not sure I've heard anything like that before so this would prolly be the first instance.
Is it supposed to mean that everyone would make their contributions into your bursory/Treasury? I don't wanna jump into conclusion cus I think some part of what you wrote had articulated that already, though (not seemingly). Times are hard; btw, no one is even gonna give into this idea as it's just about merry-making(something that's done individually). I don't think this is relevant, except if the purpose turns otherwise.

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OP hasn't fixed charity with Xmas festivities he said he didn't see it. If he's suggesting end of year charities it'll work with people if they're thinking about donations. Xmas charities won't be high priority for those who don't celebrate Xmas.

You have a kind heart to propose that noble cause of helping people out. In Bitcointalk forum, the members are so generous they donated a decent amount out of their pocket during corona, and I saw many threads and topics open for several charity purposes, and they were successful.

If you are planning for a charity, I mean you linked with any of the charity organizations or your collection, you might need to contact the forum mods. No one will trust anyone with money and I will also not.

OP should realize that no matter how noble they think their suggestion is, there are going to be users who won't make a head or tail out of it. They won't see reason with such a suggestion and this is because what tickles your fantasy is likely not what tickles others. Different strokes for different folks, they say. You bring in such thought, be sure to implement same during other religious festivals too, like that for the Muslims, Hindus, Krishna, Vegans etc. Otherwise, you would be accused of partiality. You see what I mean now? Just to remind you that in the recent past there were charity programmes ran by members here and the reports are documented. You could make your suggestion better by not tying it to the Xmas festivity. Those who don't celebrate Xmas won't see the need for an event tied to it. I'm one of those.

OP, you came up with the idea yourself, so to give that idea some credibility, you might be the first to give a charitable gift. Let's start with your example. Please tell us where and who you assisted. It is straightforward to speak beautifully and nobly; the main thing is that words do not diverge from deeds.
But as far as charity is concerned, and since the Christmas holidays are related to religion, then do as religion tells you. "When you give alms, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your alms may be in secret." Charity should always be generous but quiet. The one who does good deeds and understands for whom he does them is always modest.
Therefore, OP, if there is a desire to help someone, no one will forbid you here; I think many do this.

Coming up with this idea was wise. I've given it some thought, and I'm even curious about how it will be done here. However, I am aware of a renowned legendary member here @CryptopreneurBrainboss who has occasionally provided the less fortunate with aid, including gifts around the Christmas season. Anyone can carry out that action alone, without engaging others (forum members).

The holiday season is a time for love and gift-giving. This Christmas, be sure to keep the underprivileged in mind. Merry Christmas to everyone in advance

If you give them fish instead of fishing techniques, they will sleep one night without feeling hungry. But if you give them useful technique they might be sleep couple days hungry then they can say "if i use that techniques i wont be hungry".
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This is your statement right? Let me tell you about the situation I faced in my country. While walking on the street, a 14-15 year old girl came across me and said she was hungry. I said okay come i'll buy dinner for you and she said I want ice cream from there an in that moment weather was winter also And I met many beggars like this last couple years, and I understood that these were games, thanks to the girl I saw. They would get a share from whoever they agreed with from the surrounding restaurants. The people you mentioned in your statement are people who think about making money by playing with people's feelings in this way. Of course, we all have our own judgment. I do not help such people. The best thing I can do for them would be to notify the municipality. Because in our country, municipalities and governorships help those who really need help.

Let's get back to my statement from my side. I would be choose wisely who i want to help with the knowledge. Even if there was someone who would spend the balance in the paper wallet I gave for food, I would still help. I say I would help because I know that person will come back later and try to find out what this man gave me, even as a last resort. As a fresh graduate, I can do something like this to my sub-classes who are still students. Or to a friend of mine who has recently been unemployed. If they can managed to access that bitcoins they can move forward.

If money's been stolen before it doesn't mean all charity program admins are thieves but I can't trust them. I won't give to online donation seekers.

Trusting others isn't easy. Sending cryptocurrencies to strangers isn't easy.

You wouldn't trust a stranger in the street to give money so trusting strangers online isn't the best way to give for charities.

Christmas is celebrated all over the world every year for those who believe in the birthday of Jesus Christ, there are various ways Christians can celebrate Christmas, from gifts, eating with family, sharing with one another and many things that can be done.

A Christmas charity program is rationally good, if the goal is good and truly beneficial to many people,but we here have seen several cases that are not good for charity programs carried out by some members in this forum, the first page has been mentioned, maybe you already understand.

For me and very professional to do a Christmas charity program for the people.
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Most of us who are involved in this forum, received a few dollars from the sig campaign, plus members who trade crypto, I think that a few dollars are set aside for Christmas charity activities every year and are directly given by the users themselves to those who are entitled to receive them, I think it's better and professional without having to raise funds from the community here, only for charitable purposes on Christmas Day.

What is certain is that Christmas is not only celebrated by one country, of course other countries want to do the same thing too, as you want to do, Christmas Charity.

One of the most important things in life is taking care of others. During the corona, many high-ranking individuals donated, as well as those affected by the flood this year. I appreciate one aspect of the bitcoin forum, and it's a good idea that some of its members organize free programs for children and orphanages out of their own pockets. I also love the kids from my area that I know. I hope to see more of this every single life matter a lot.

In general I believe that if you are doing well financially, it is good to donate money/bitcoin/whatever to help others and I lead by example. Apart from occasional extraordinary donations, I donate to a charity I trust (using fiat) every month. It is an expense that I have set for myself as a fixed one, like paying the electricity bill.

As I'm normally a bit skeptical, I will say that I doubt whether the OP's thread starts from a sincere opinion or from the merit requirements of the campaing he is participating in. The merit requirement for this week already has it but there is a possible bonus.

Anyway, let's give him the benefit of the doubt.

What he wants is to open a debate. So let's debate.


In an ideal world it would be better, what happens is that if you have someone hungry in front of you, he will not pay attention to you if you try to teach him something because he only thinks about food. So it is better to give food to the hungry and establish teaching them how to fish as a medium term plan.


Sure, you're going to teach a poor person who needs charity to eat a lot of things about financial freedom. Come on! Giving him a paper wallet is completely useless, because as soon as he learns what it is, what he will do is change it to fiat to be able to pay for food, or if we think of a worse case scenario, alcohol or drugs.

Well, it's a good idea just sometimes gather for and have a small time if you don't get into the discord server of the forum we can make it right there even just have a virtual party, for my ideal if we make it for the new year event or make an event which is more significant that helps other people.

I witnessed some of the achievements of the Covid-19 charity led by Royse777. et al and I believe it is a good example, but one must also be aware that charities can go wrong. Here is an example of it that maybe you did not know about:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcointalk-charity-and-its-funds-5376475

I believe that any act or campaign of charity is welcomed while it is carried out by reputable members of this forum and if the funds are kept in a multi-signature wallet then even better. The administrators could have some guidelines for charities, like keeping and providing evidences of purchase, disclosing public keys, etc. It would help.

The idea could be very successful, but you need the community to trust it first. I love your initiative to raise some funds for people but only if you can provide a service that is trustworthy and reliable. I'm not sure what the community would think about it, but I hope you get some traction!

Doing charity work is a good initiative, and can come from anyone not necessarily the forum as a body. There have been such initiatives in the past, the most successfully executed would be Covid-19 charity programme organized by Royse777 and last year there was something similar to what you’re proposing , I’m skeptical of these programs after Bitcointalk Charity Program - Give Hope To Everyone! failed. I think the forum should put more focus on the BitcoinTalk show. There hasn’t been any activity on the YouTube page for some time.

The charity program is doing well on the forums, I've seen it quite successful in a few chapters but I'm not sure if your idea will actually be supported. Money becomes very sensitive when in the past there have been several failed charitable programs, and it will be remembered by the community because the management was chaotic.

It would be better if you do it from yourself to others instead of expecting the community to do it. So without reducing respect, you are free to do it out there as you wish.

I suppose my thoughts on this matter are mixed. I really like the idea of it, but at the same time I have a lot of concerns about where the money will go, who will it be for and how it will be used.

That said, it is an excellent idea that I hope that it ends up working out in a meaningful way. A lot of people in this world are facing a number of challenges in their day to day lives. Hunger, poverty, and other problems have been an issue for far too long, and many charitable organizations are already trying hard to make a real difference.

Actually it might not be tagged Christmas charity program but I know this forun is good at doing charity works. I have seen so many threads by individuals about charity and at a particular time some persons will need to sponsor such charity programs.
I was not here during the convict 19 time but I have seen some threads that discussed about charity of covid-19. It is a good thing so even if it is not tagged Christmas because the forum is not only for Christian. There is always a means of doing charity in this forum.