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sr. member
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November 27, 2023, 12:33:22 PM
#88
Things you feel is easy to conquer is not that easy in terms of taking loan, ranks can't give you that assurance that a member would pay you back the loan collected from you.

Yes, it can. Depending on the amount. It is very unlikely that someone will risk the reputation of a high-ranking account for a few hundred dollars, for example. Check the lending board, there are lenders who will easily give loans to high-ranked accounts without any collateral. How do you explain that?

I'm not sure we're on the same line with what I said, collateral or not, a member can choose not to pay back if he doesn't have the intention to do so before collecting the loan. What I said is, rank doesn't make someone to pay back a loan.

For the nth time, rank does matter! Check the lending boards yourself; you can see countless examples of high-ranking members getting and repaying loans without collateral. The same cannot be said for newbie members. This wouldn't be the case if rank didn't matter.


I don't know how I'm going to put it to you, but I quite agree with you but do you know that in as much as we have high ranked members paying back there loan, we still have high ranked members who also fail to pay back loan? Do you know that?
We have good and bad users in this Forum so don't right off the newbies, they too can pay back but base on how some people do see them as new comers that can't be trusted, they too can do better than some high ranked members.
sr. member
Activity: 588
Merit: 338
November 27, 2023, 09:15:01 AM
#87
I personally see this forum as an institution where people come and learn about crypto related matters, and also different interesting topics on governments and economies worldwide. I joined this forum with a zero knowledge about cryptocurrency, everyone's knowledge that I've acquired about crypto is gotten from this forum. Every crypto news and related links that I've searched are gotten from this forum, and in less than a year that I joined, I can at least make meaningful contributions in any crypto discussions anywhere, thanks to the wonderful forum members who are always willing to impact their knowledge to newbies.

Beyond crypto knowledge, I've also broadened my views and understanding about economics and government, I understand issues better now from different perspectives of forum members.
full member
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November 27, 2023, 06:31:45 AM
#86
Things you feel is easy to conquer is not that easy in terms of taking loan, ranks can't give you that assurance that a member would pay you back the loan collected from you.

Yes, it can. Depending on the amount. It is very unlikely that someone will risk the reputation of a high-ranking account for a few hundred dollars, for example. Check the lending board, there are lenders who will easily give loans to high-ranked accounts without any collateral. How do you explain that?

I'm not sure we're on the same line with what I said, collateral or not, a member can choose not to pay back if he doesn't have the intention to do so before collecting the loan. What I said is, rank doesn't make someone to pay back a loan.

For the nth time, rank does matter! Check the lending boards yourself; you can see countless examples of high-ranking members getting and repaying loans without collateral. The same cannot be said for newbie members. This wouldn't be the case if rank didn't matter.
sr. member
Activity: 756
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November 27, 2023, 03:01:28 AM
#85
Things you feel is easy to conquer is not that easy in terms of taking loan, ranks can't give you that assurance that a member would pay you back the loan collected from you.

Yes, it can. Depending on the amount. It is very unlikely that someone will risk the reputation of a high-ranking account for a few hundred dollars, for example. Check the lending board, there are lenders who will easily give loans to high-ranked accounts without any collateral. How do you explain that?

I'm not sure we're on the same line with what I said, collateral or not, a member can choose not to pay back if he doesn't have the intention to do so before collecting the loan. What I said is, rank doesn't make someone to pay back a loan.

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How do you figure that? It is possible that there are some isolated cases, but in general, a newbie cannot get a loan easily.  Not without some sort of collateral.

I don't really get you and your question, are you trying to tell me that there are newbies that doesn't have any idea of Bitcoin before joining the Forum? We have many who have good knowledge of Bitcoin, trading and investing, the rank doesn't matter. That's the same thing with this loan of a thing, some newbies are willing to pay back loan and some are not ready to pay back. To me rank doesn't matter at all.
hero member
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November 26, 2023, 10:13:20 PM
#84
I agree with this, when someone experiences obstacles or limited knowledge about something they want to learn but lacks the resources to increase their knowledge, they are more inclined to come here to get something they want. Luckily here the majority of people have a high level of knowledge about crypto, they are also very generous, every time someone asks a question here they always take the time to answer it. Forum users will spread the best knowledge to help other users, forums are a medium for finding solutions, but forum users have an important role in solving every problem faced by other users.
full member
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November 26, 2023, 05:33:11 PM
#83
Things you feel is easy to conquer is not that easy in terms of taking loan, ranks can't give you that assurance that a member would pay you back the loan collected from you.

Yes, it can. Depending on the amount. It is very unlikely that someone will risk the reputation of a high-ranking account for a few hundred dollars, for example. Check the lending board, there are lenders who will easily give loans to high-ranked accounts without any collateral. How do you explain that?

If you check properly, we have genuine newbies more than higher ranked members who can return the loan collected.

How do you figure that? It is possible that there are some isolated cases, but in general, a newbie cannot get a loan easily.  Not without some sort of collateral.
hero member
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November 26, 2023, 04:46:44 PM
#82
Their is certain things bitcointalk is the solution to it,for example bitcointalk is solution whereby a bitcoin or new coins can be discussed and negotiate properly of the coin than anything for this life, what I understand concerning bitcointalk is where we interact and deliberate about old coin and new coins the possiblity of the new coin to get reach and we'll known to the society,but some people understand the existence of this coin in another form
sr. member
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November 26, 2023, 04:41:14 PM
#81
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Casual loan or not, anybody who wants to run away with your money would do so and the person can open another account without you knowing, that's if you plan on making his account useless.

You can create a new account, but you cannot become a Sr. Member overnight. It requires effort and time. That's why rank is important when evaluating the validity of someone's application for a non-collateral loan. and I believe this is precisely what DYING_S0UL was emphasizing.



No doubt but you must lose you money at the end of everything.You're not getting my point, ranks doesn't determine if I'll pay you or not I say it again.
If someone loses his account because he doesn't want to pay you and you red flag his account don't you think he already has about 2-3 account that's on standby should incase something happens to the other one?🤔 Haven't you thought of that?
Things you feel is easy to conquer is not that easy in terms of taking loan, ranks can't give you that assurance that a member would pay you back the loan collected from you. If you check properly, we have genuine newbies more than higher ranked members who can return the loan collected.
sr. member
Activity: 322
Merit: 318
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November 26, 2023, 08:56:24 AM
#80
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Casual loan or not, anybody who wants to run away with your money would do so and the person can open another account without you knowing, that's if you plan on making his account useless.

You can create a new account, but you cannot become a Sr. Member overnight. It requires effort and time. That's why rank is important when evaluating the validity of someone's application for a non-collateral loan. and I believe this is precisely what DYING_S0UL was emphasizing.

Yes, you are right in a way. A person can have lots activity, posts but only little merits. Also a person can have lots of merits but only a little activity, posts. And behind both case, there was a entity called effort and dedication. I don't know about you but it took a lot of hard work for me to reach this far. I am not judging anyone based on their ranks, I know that despite having big ranks, some would default. But for me (the way I see it) rank is something that reflections ones dedication to this forum. A person cannot have come this far without doing anything, can they? (discard the airdropped merit for now, I'm not taking about that). My account is far too valuable to me, and I wouldn't want to get red mark in my account for some money.

High ranked members don't default that much, at least I haven't seen/noticed anything like that. Even if they did, it's related to hacked or sold account case. If you think ranking up is easy, one can rank up overnight or losing a sr. account is nothing compared to the money you are getting, then go ahead. Get a huge loan, default the loan, get red tag due to default and come back with a fresh account. I doubt, you would want to that. Nobody would want that...at least the majority.(The minorities are relatives of Bill Gates and Elon Musk, so they don't care if they loss some account or not Wink)
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November 26, 2023, 08:46:46 AM
#79
Bitcointalk forum is a home of solution to any problem you can think of so far as it is concerned with financial growth.  Nobody comes with a problem to bitcointalk that users of the forum don't try their best to give good solutions to the problem.  Bitcointalk is a forum that carries everyone along and does not segregates or look down on any of it members.

In bitcointalk forum so far as you are ready to speak out burdens affecting your financial growth,  wrong investment,  storing bitcoin on wallet not good enough their will be solutions to all these problems.

Members who benefit a lot from bitcointalk are members who don't keep challenges or problems to themselves but want to see themselves grow.  I just want to appreciate all forum members who have been of help help in one way or the other to members whose problems have been solved and also appreciate you all as you continue to solve more problems for members that needs helps.
You are not alone if you have losses your money  or if your investments not going to  performed as per your planned. Although the cryptocurrency market might be un usual  it can be beneficial to share knowledge and have  conversations like this one in order to learn from our major mistakes.
storing Bitcoin securely is main factor It's not just about having a wallet it's about choosing the right type of wallet and impose best types for security.
here is my openion in your discussion to  securing our assets.
full member
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November 26, 2023, 08:34:21 AM
#78
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Casual loan or not, anybody who wants to run away with your money would do so and the person can open another account without you knowing, that's if you plan on making his account useless.

You can create a new account, but you cannot become a Sr. Member overnight. It requires effort and time. That's why rank is important when evaluating the validity of someone's application for a non-collateral loan. and I believe this is precisely what DYING_S0UL was emphasizing.

sr. member
Activity: 756
Merit: 454
November 26, 2023, 06:52:11 AM
#77

Let me ask, since you said new members shouldn't be given loan, don't you know that you shouldn't be using rank to even decide who to give loan? My account rank is Sr. Member and I can take a loan from you and choose not to pay back and there's nothing you can do about it, do you know it can happen?
Ranks should not be a means to choose who is genuine to give loan. If you think this way can solve this loan issue, I'll tell you for free that it can't.
If someone does that, the loss is theirs, not mine. Money comes and goes, but hard earned things don't. Such as your Sr. Ranked account. Only a brainless Sr. person would take loan and not return. If the amount is far more greater, then I agree with you. But if I were taking about a casual loan, casual amount, one wouldn't dare to default. His account is far more valuable then the money. He could just join any sigs and earn that kind of money in just few months. Another thing I said is rank with past transaction history with reputed member. That is a key point which should be taken into account.

For you to say that which means you agree that there's no solution to that problem. And you shouldn't write yourself of this issue since you also give out loan (if you really do). Money comes and goes doesn't mean we should be careless, we have to use our head while giving out loan here in the forum or anywhere else.
Please don't see it as only a Sr. Member or person as you call it, that can do what you said and a Legendary member Hero member or even a Full Member can take loan without paying back, after all you haven't seen the person before to either send the cops on him or her.
Those things are just Ranks and it doesn't tell if the person would pay back a loan or not, just understand because we're all humans with different mindset and if you know the rank doesn't have a mind that controls we the users.
Casual loan or not, anybody who wants to run away with your money would do so and the person can open another account without you knowing, that's if you plan on making his account useless.
hero member
Activity: 3052
Merit: 685
November 25, 2023, 08:21:15 AM
#76
Satoshi Nakamoto had seen the need for the people to have a course to make a discussion about bitcoin from its official and a reliable website before he come up with bitcointalk, it's also a thing of joy that this lovely community is serving it purpose beyond the scope it was been oversighted as you can see how large the community is and everything being under moderations, this platform is indeed a blessing to every bitcoiners because they have found it as a home to where they belong in discussing about bitcoin with other users across the world.
This forum connects all the bitcoin enthusiasts all over the world, and when an interactive discussion is present, obviously this forum turns into a home that all bitcoin lovers have find their space to express everything they know about bitcoin that could help and motivate other members as well. While reliable solutions have been offered in the discussion to address the different problems, still there are problems that you need to find your own solutions to save yourself. That is why never limit your learnings only in the forum, but explore other legit sources as well.

However, I still agree to the idea that bitcointalk forum is a home of solution. Otherwise, many have chose to leave the forum instead since its not being helpful and productive in the first place.
newbie
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November 25, 2023, 07:28:55 AM
#75
I'll have to strongly agree with everything that was said in this thread. I recently found this forum and must say its the best thing i've found in a while. There are defiantly a lot of useful information , tips & tricks posted all over this site. Nothing but great information to take in. And most of all yes most members are very helpful here and are always willing to help or shed some light.
hero member
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November 25, 2023, 07:21:01 AM
#74
People are willing to help others without charging them financially. I am not that surprised because I learnt that it is the reason Satoshi created this forum. To interact and learn about bitcoin.
I think this is the sweetest thing about the forum for people to learn different things without being charge . I know some physical trading academy that charges people a lot of money to learn trading but still people  still find it very difficult to trade which they still have challenges. One of the lessons that will always be in my mind that I got here in the forum, the forum always emphasize on hodling, likes encouraging members to try their best to always hodl and give good reasons why hodling is important. Bitcoin forum won't tell you to hodl but will teach you to understand the market to enable hodling to possible.
legendary
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November 25, 2023, 03:58:50 AM
#73
Bitcointalk forum is known to have reputable and reliable members so if ever questions or inquiries arise from newbies or beginners in the forum, then automatically, members will contribute their own ideas and advices that are essential to solve the given problems. But it does not mean that newbies should only rely to the forum members while staying in the forum, of course they should also be responsible to do their own diligence to research because having multi sources to educate oneself is always better. Otherwise, they will only be considered irrelevant in the forum and might be permanently removed.

Still, I believe bitcointalk forum is a home of solution, but only for those topics that are relevant and catered in the forum, off topics will never be entertained.
Relevant topics will become the main reference and become a discussion that can continue. Topics that are inappropriate or outside the topic are just topics that are ignored. Bitcointalk is a forum that provides solutions to problems regarding cryptocurrency, here is the most recommended place. No other forum discusses crypto more fully than Bitcointalk.
sr. member
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November 23, 2023, 01:37:12 AM
#72

Let me ask, since you said new members shouldn't be given loan, don't you know that you shouldn't be using rank to even decide who to give loan? My account rank is Sr. Member and I can take a loan from you and choose not to pay back and there's nothing you can do about it, do you know it can happen?
Ranks should not be a means to choose who is genuine to give loan. If you think this way can solve this loan issue, I'll tell you for free that it can't.
If someone does that, the loss is theirs, not mine. Money comes and goes, but hard earned things don't. Such as your Sr. Ranked account. Only a brainless Sr. person would take loan and not return. If the amount is far more greater, then I agree with you. But if I were taking about a casual loan, casual amount, one wouldn't dare to default. His account is far more valuable then the money. He could just join any sigs and earn that kind of money in just few months. Another thing I said is rank with past transaction history with reputed member. That is a key point which should be taken into account.
hero member
Activity: 2940
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November 22, 2023, 04:18:45 PM
#71
Bitcointalk forum is a home of solution to any problem you can think of so far as it is concerned with financial growth.  Nobody comes with a problem to bitcointalk that users of the forum don't try their best to give good solutions to the problem.  Bitcointalk is a forum that carries everyone along and does not segregates or look down on any of it members.

In bitcointalk forum so far as you are ready to speak out burdens affecting your financial growth,  wrong investment,  storing bitcoin on wallet not good enough their will be solutions to all these problems.

Members who benefit a lot from bitcointalk are members who don't keep challenges or problems to themselves but want to see themselves grow.  I just want to appreciate all forum members who have been of help help in one way or the other to members whose problems have been solved and also appreciate you all as you continue to solve more problems for members that needs helps.
Bitcointalk forum is known to have reputable and reliable members so if ever questions or inquiries arise from newbies or beginners in the forum, then automatically, members will contribute their own ideas and advices that are essential to solve the given problems. But it does not mean that newbies should only rely to the forum members while staying in the forum, of course they should also be responsible to do their own diligence to research because having multi sources to educate oneself is always better. Otherwise, they will only be considered irrelevant in the forum and might be permanently removed.

Still, I believe bitcointalk forum is a home of solution, but only for those topics that are relevant and catered in the forum, off topics will never be entertained.
sr. member
Activity: 630
Merit: 277
November 22, 2023, 03:56:09 PM
#70
Bitcointalk forum is a home of solution to any problem you can think of so far as it is concerned with financial growth.  Nobody comes with a problem to bitcointalk that users of the forum don't try their best to give good solutions to the problem.  Bitcointalk is a forum that carries everyone along and does not segregates or look down on any of it members.

That is one of the great advantages of an open and some how decentralized forum. It is not a decentralized forum per say but there is a great level of freedom in the forum.
Educative interactions and conversations are always carried out. People are willing to help others without charging them financially. I am not that surprised because I learnt that it is the reason Satoshi created this forum. To interact and learn about bitcoin.

The technical aspect of the forum is beautiful and that was the area that first caught my attention when I joined the forum newly. There are gurus there willing to answer questions of any kind and solve people's problems. Kudos to Satoshi for creating bitcoin and this forum.
sr. member
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November 22, 2023, 03:24:13 PM
#69
There are some problems that can't be solved but all they bring is discussion and how to go about it, I'm talking about those who collect loan without paying back (as one of the problems that can't be solved). To me on that issue (loan defaulters) you can't get your money back but the Forum members only have to talk about it but the solution I'm not sure.
And the Forum only brings members that are capable to solve or bring solutions to the problems other users face here in this community and not the other way around.
What are you suggestion then? It's one of a problem that can't be solved by us. The only way to solve this by the person who is giving the loan. Collateral should be a must when taking a loan. Another solution is, new members shouldn't get loans. Even full member like me, unless I have some good transaction history with reputed or known members. I'm saying this because ranking up to full member can be pretty easy these days. Although, those who gives loans, checks thoroughly before giving loans but despite these loans defaults are still happening. 

Let me ask, since you said new members shouldn't be given loan, don't you know that you shouldn't be using rank to even decide who to give loan? My account rank is Sr. Member and I can take a loan from you and choose not to pay back and there's nothing you can do about it, do you know it can happen?
Ranks should not be a means to choose who is genuine to give loan. If you think this way can solve this loan issue, I'll tell you for free that it can't.
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