Topic: bitcointalk is pathetic (Read 2056 times)
I don't understand what's with the constant cribbing about the forum and signature spammers (there are far too many threads discussing the issue which has no permanent solution yet). It's OK to crib once or twice but like every time to crib (even after months) is like weird. If anyone is so unhappy with the forum they are free to leave the place and find a better place. Many are pretty OK with this forum and hence they are here. No forum is perfect and each has its own flaws so it's better to switch rather than stay and feel disgusted about spammers (as scammers exist on each forum).
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1008
Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
Come on now, you spend all your time in bitcoin discussion / lending and participate in a signature campaign.
It´s indeed pretty funny that someone that spends half of his posts commenting on the lending section, most of the time not saying anything useful, complains about the forum and the posters..
I would say I add more to the community than most. I've
contributed scripts and tools in electrum, and given coins
to worthy causes. not all of my posts are high value but
many of them are.
the posts that I make in lending are to stop spammers and scammers.
Also I avoided signature campaigns for a year
until last month when someone practically
begged me to join and I hesitantly agreed.
anyway, I'm not the one on trial here.
Lets be honest here, your posts on the lending section are just to increase your post count, the scammers are already stopped by the negative rating they recieve when they ask for money without collateral but hey nice try, who is on trial then?
You're wrong. I was making many posts long before I joined a campaign, which was only one month ago.
Look how many posts I have total.
I post no differently than I did before. Also this signature campaign only requires sixty posts...I do much more than that, and it's not a high paying campaign. I could be making much more promoting gambling which I decided against.
Come on now, you spend all your time in bitcoin discussion / lending and participate in a signature campaign.
It´s indeed pretty funny that someone that spends half of his posts commenting on the lending section, most of the time not saying anything useful, complains about the forum and the posters..
I would say I add more to the community than most. I've
contributed scripts and tools in electrum, and given coins
to worthy causes. not all of my posts are high value but
many of them are.
the posts that I make in lending are to stop spammers and scammers.
Also I avoided signature campaigns for a year
until last month when someone practically
begged me to join and I hesitantly agreed.
anyway, I'm not the one on trial here.
Lets be honest here, your posts on the lending section are just to increase your post count, the scammers are already stopped by the negative rating they recieve when they ask for money without collateral but hey nice try, who is on trial then?
OP has never posted on cryptovpn sig campaign thread and he isn't listed on their current participants list. I think he's telling the truth.
/ random rant
Come on now, you spend all your time in bitcoin discussion / lending and participate in a signature campaign.
It´s indeed pretty funny that someone that spends half of his posts commenting on the lending section, most of the time not saying anything useful, complains about the forum and the posters..
I would say I add more to the community than most. I've
contributed scripts and tools in electrum, and given coins
to worthy causes. not all of my posts are high value but
many of them are.
the posts that I make in lending are to stop spammers and scammers.
Also I avoided signature campaigns for a year
until last month when someone practically
begged me to join and I hesitantly agreed.
anyway, I'm not the one on trial here.
Lets be honest here, your posts on the lending section are just to increase your post count, the scammers are already stopped by the negative rating they recieve when they ask for money without collateral but hey nice try, who is on trial then?
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1008
Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
Come on now, you spend all your time in bitcoin discussion / lending and participate in a signature campaign.
It´s indeed pretty funny that someone that spends half of his posts commenting on the lending section, most of the time not saying anything useful, complains about the forum and the posters..
I would say I add more to the community than most. I've
contributed scripts and tools in electrum, and given coins
to worthy causes. not all of my posts are high value but
many of them are.
the posts that I make in lending are to stop spammers and scammers.
Also I avoided signature campaigns for a year
until last month when someone practically
begged me to join and I hesitantly agreed.
anyway, I'm not the one on trial here.
Come on now, you spend all your time in bitcoin discussion / lending and participate in a signature campaign.
It´s indeed pretty funny that someone that spends half of his posts commenting on the lending section, most of the time not saying anything useful, complains about the forum and the posters..
few good posters but so many scammers, broke losers, and idiots with nothing insightful to say. it's really gone downhill.
First day on the internet?
bct seemed better a year ago, maybe my imagination.
+1.
But... welcome to the Internet and more specifically to forums, @jonald_fyookball
P.S: take a look to this topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1019752.240
Considering the nature of what the forum is all about - internet money, disruptive ideas, general distaste for The Man - I'm pretty amazed it's as unpathetic as it is. Those are all prime targets for ridicule and combativeness from elsewhere but it's relatively restrained.
Sure, there's no shortage of noise, scams and mindless idiots, but there's still plenty of measured discussion and much to learn.
Sure, there's no shortage of noise, scams and mindless idiots, but there's still plenty of measured discussion and much to learn.
Considering the nature of what the forum is all about - internet money, disruptive ideas, general distaste for The Man - I'm pretty amazed it's as unpathetic as it is. Those are all prime targets for ridicule and combativeness from elsewhere but it's relatively restrained.
Sure, there's no shortage of noise, scams and mindless idiots, but there's still plenty of measured discussion and much to learn.
Sure, there's no shortage of noise, scams and mindless idiots, but there's still plenty of measured discussion and much to learn.
You definitely need to take a look at "THE LIST" in this section and the one used by DannyHamilton.
I would link them, but it is hard to navigate on a phone. Anyhow, a cobination of those two should definitely flush out a lot of nonsense as both keep adding new members.
I would link them, but it is hard to navigate on a phone. Anyhow, a cobination of those two should definitely flush out a lot of nonsense as both keep adding new members.
Danny -> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/my-personal-ignore-list-973843
I do agree that the forum is not what it used to be. However, the same applies for internet. There are some really bad people that have gotten access in the past few years. There's not much that can be done aside from using the ignore button.
ban *aol.com
Spam and morons have always been a part of the internet, even when there was no WWW.
You definitely need to take a look at "THE LIST" in this section and the one used by DannyHamilton.
I would link them, but it is hard to navigate on a phone. Anyhow, a cobination of those two should definitely flush out a lot of nonsense as both keep adding new members.
I do agree that the forum is not what it used to be. However, the same applies for internet. There are some really bad people that have gotten access in the past few years. There's not much that can be done aside from using the ignore button.
I would link them, but it is hard to navigate on a phone. Anyhow, a cobination of those two should definitely flush out a lot of nonsense as both keep adding new members.
I do agree that the forum is not what it used to be. However, the same applies for internet. There are some really bad people that have gotten access in the past few years. There's not much that can be done aside from using the ignore button.
You could always try ignoring them. Too many people focus on the trolls and the negativity.
True. Ignore is always an option that one can use as a last resort.To turn a phrase from SaltySpitoon, "If you are trying to learn about Bitcoin as a genuine newbie, wading through trolling and shitposting can do enough to convince you it's not worth looking into."
EDIT: As part of an "experiment", I've nuked my personal, curated Trust List, and am currently using Default Trust, along with "The List" added to my Ignore settings. Thanks !
You could always try ignoring them. Too many people focus on the trolls and the negativity.
Life is too short for that kind of nonsense.
Life is too short for that kind of nonsense.
If you are trying to learn about Bitcoin as a genuine newbie, a 3 hour wait can do enough to convince you it's not worth looking into.
This is a very fair point, and I really can't argue with it. Thanks for that perspective that I hadn't considered before.Now if we could only do something about the shitposters and obvious shills that degrade the signal:noise ratio; I've learned that reporting such posts in the "popular and controversial" threads is largely futile - moderators letting obvious shitposters paint threads assorted shades of brown and yellow...
few good posters but so many scammers, broke losers, and idiots with nothing insightful to say. it's really gone downhill.
First day on the internet?
bct seemed better a year ago, maybe my imagination.
I will agree here. I have been here since mid 2011. towards 2012 to 2013 was good times and last 2 years on here with the amount of scams happening and people getting away with it and nothing being done to prevent future scams happening, seems not a lot gets done. Trolls do get it from time to time, but a lot of the time you just see some massive arguments and flaming back and forth in topics should not be allowed and closed and posts censored. The amount of things I have seen over the years on here is a shock and a lot of it still continues today. Rid the spam, scams, multi accounting and perm banning and suspending or blocking ips and then some things would be a lot better here.
I agree, but what really burns me is the incompetency of admins. All we need is a newbie jail
Getting rid of the newbie jail was a terrible idea, and, IMO, the point when these forums accelerated their decline in quality.Newbie jail causes a huge amount of issues. People complain about removing newbie jail, but it really didn't do much to prevent spam. The issue with spam doesn't come from genuine newbies, it comes from account farmers. If you are managing 100 accounts, a 3 hour wait means very little to you. If you are trying to learn about Bitcoin as a genuine newbie, a 3 hour wait can do enough to convince you its not worth looking into. If newbie jail was reimplemented this second, the forum would indeed get better, for 3 hours that is, then the waves of accounts hitting the boards would be the same as it was before. In addition, whitelisting is a huge drain on staff resources.
If you report one spammer, all of their accounts get banned.
I agree, but what really burns me is the incompetency of admins. All we need is a newbie jail
Getting rid of the newbie jail was a terrible idea, and, IMO, the point when these forums accelerated their decline in quality.
few good posters but so many scammers, broke losers, and idiots with nothing insightful to say. it's really gone downhill.
And if we take a look at your signature then we can see the reason why this has happened.
People get paid to post "crap" so how surprising is it that the forum no longer has anyone posting anything of value?
It should also be noted that many of the mods also are being paid to post (via "ad-sigs") so even criticising them tends to actually "land you in trouble" (crap that emanates from mods is apparently less stinky).
I for one will not be using the "new forum" as it has become clear that bitcointalk.org only cares about allowing people to earn money from ad-sig campaigns (it cares nothing for the quality of posts).
It is funny that even people like DannyHamilton (who have put up with the ad-sig crap for over a year by creating huge ignore lists) are starting to post less and less (I guess it wears everyone down eventually).
I can only assume that this forum is either corrupted or retarded as it seems the very purpose of it now is to allow idiots to earn money from posting rubbish (it seems that the forum's credo now is that "being popular is all that matters").
Anyway - no need for you mods to worry about me as I won't be joining your new forum (enjoy your ad-sig rewards and the ad-sig posts).
It's not BCT that's pathetic but the trolls who keep creating many accounts everyday just to pass their time are making this forum look pathetic. The amount of scammers too are increasing and they are just waiting to scam via PayPal almost everyday.
Yep, trolls and scammers can easily create plenty of accounts and continue with trolling and scamming, and why can they do it? Because the administrator or owner doesn't want to limit the amount of accounts that can be created per ip. Also, to create an account you don't even need to insert a real email address where you will receive a confirmation of signup email.
Of course this forum will be full of clowns and fools like it is already, how can you guys be so surprised.....Everything you said could (easily) be bypassed and also would be against the credo of anonymity
go irc #bitcoin-assets
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