Topic: Bitcointalk posting etiquette (Read 2996 times)
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We shouldn't even have a real criteria for posts here besides the obvious "don't talk nonsense" and "make your posts" constructive, but every now and again (especially last month) I see people talking about how long posters like me are ruining the forum, or how short posters aren't bringing enough value to the discussion and the forum. Personally you do you, and my real qualms about this topic is just the fact that there's just been a silent divide ever since and I see official posting etiquettes such as what you're trying to propose right here as something that could seriously end the heated discussion so we can move on to topics more deserving of attention.
Think more, write less.The art of writing is write as less as possible, less here in means of less words to use, and still express your opinion in enough details, succinctly, to the points.
The more words you use for writing, your post will become longer, and it does not help you to catch attention of readers. They will feel boring, waste of time, and ignore your post. It is true in academic writing, not only in this forum, but also true in every context of writing.
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When trying to write quality posts, a lot of people act as though they're writing a book report for school: putting facts that we already know into their own words. Nobody wants to read that, and you will not get merit for it. Moreover, the length of your post and the quality of your English are only minor factors. In trying to write a quality post worthy of merit, you should offer new ideas, personal experiences, or perspectives that other forum users will actually find new and interesting.
It is not about my opinion or theymos' opinion, but it is a gold standard in writing.
Personally this is something that I can really get behind. I've been very tired of all the posts in here singling out how certain people post, thinking that theirs was better or that they should be the standard of posting format here in the forum when this forum's been very lenient to everyone, long as they don't spew trash and bullshit. Heck it even came to the point where signature campaign members are being called out for the regular act of posting which is something that even a non-signature member is expected to do in the first place.
We shouldn't even have a real criteria for posts here besides the obvious "don't talk nonsense" and "make your posts" constructive, but every now and again (especially last month) I see people talking about how long posters like me are ruining the forum, or how short posters aren't bringing enough value to the discussion and the forum. Personally you do you, and my real qualms about this topic is just the fact that there's just been a silent divide ever since and I see official posting etiquettes such as what you're trying to propose right here as something that could seriously end the heated discussion so we can move on to topics more deserving of attention.
We shouldn't even have a real criteria for posts here besides the obvious "don't talk nonsense" and "make your posts" constructive, but every now and again (especially last month) I see people talking about how long posters like me are ruining the forum, or how short posters aren't bringing enough value to the discussion and the forum. Personally you do you, and my real qualms about this topic is just the fact that there's just been a silent divide ever since and I see official posting etiquettes such as what you're trying to propose right here as something that could seriously end the heated discussion so we can move on to topics more deserving of attention.
The article will help us lot especially to get merit because there is much information which we do not fill completely that is why we do not get merit but after knowing this maybe I can improve myself lot.
When your writing is better, you can describe and express your idea better but it's not help you to get merit. 
Merit is for quality posts and all things here are formats but if you don't have good idea, format will be useless and can not create quality for your posts. Write when you have good idea, don't have idea, keep reading and learning.
Merit?
It will come when your posts are good, in quality, not only in format.
The article will help us lot especially to get merit because there is much information which we do not fill completely that is why we do not get merit but after knowing this maybe I can improve myself lot. And will expand my knowledge lot which will help my future beautifies I had to know a lot of new things, but I may not know completely but through this writing I am learning a lot. Like you and other experienced people have added a lot of important information. I have tried my best. It will be very useful for me.
I added to new parts and one of them, I only learned it today. Surprised that over 7 years here, I did not know that I can organize PMs with labels.
Use Talkimg.com to upload images and organize your PMs with labels, read OP to know!
Use Talkimg.com to upload images and organize your PMs with labels, read OP to know!
To be honest regardless of how old and knowledgeable a member is the "search before posting" it the case.
Meta board is always the witness of it, reasons are "i forget about this...", "correct me if i'm wrong", "please tell me if someone have posted already about this", etc. Although, it's just okay actually, but yeah, "proper searching" is always the case.
How much more to newbies.
Meta board is always the witness of it, reasons are "i forget about this...", "correct me if i'm wrong", "please tell me if someone have posted already about this", etc. Although, it's just okay actually, but yeah, "proper searching" is always the case.
How much more to newbies.
I also edit Wikipedia and there are very strict rules about how to write new articles.
All information must be based on reliable sources, the writing style must be neutral and objective, without using words such as wonderful, excellent, fantastic etc.
They are distracting words and probably mislead readers about actual meanings of fact you are expressing. It is often used in speaking.All information must be based on reliable sources, the writing style must be neutral and objective, without using words such as wonderful, excellent, fantastic etc.
Man, this thread needed a bump
I bumped it today, it is why Daniel saw it and joined the discussion. Quote
I forgot it even existed or how good the advice was in it.
Thank you man. My advice is not perfect but I hope it is helpful. 
Man, this thread needed a bump--I forgot it even existed or how good the advice was in it. Interesting that I wrote this back in 2019:
This was well after the merit system kicked off, and it seems as though the changes the system made as far as post quality were pretty long-lasting, because all of that is still true to this day (and I even got a new pair of glasses since that post).
Fortunately the spam problem hasn't even been as bad as it has been lately. I haven't been seeing heaps of low-value posts in Meta or outside of Bitcoin Discussion much. Or maybe I need a new pair of glasses, who knows.
This was well after the merit system kicked off, and it seems as though the changes the system made as far as post quality were pretty long-lasting, because all of that is still true to this day (and I even got a new pair of glasses since that post).
Interesting discussion.
I also edit Wikipedia and there are very strict rules about how to write new articles.
All information must be based on reliable sources, the writing style must be neutral and objective, without using words such as wonderful, excellent, fantastic etc.
When I look at the posts on this forum, I have to conclude that probably not even 5% of the posts would be accepted on Wikipedia
People here really often write posts that are hard to understand, too long, that don't bring anything new to the discussion etc.
Each post must be clear and concise and give specific answers to the topic.
It is important to give a specific summary of the topic in the introduction, then give a detailed presentation of the topic and finally a concrete conclusion. It is important to be concise and not use too many words or explanations.
If there are links to more information, it is important to include them in the article for further verification and analysis.
I also edit Wikipedia and there are very strict rules about how to write new articles.
All information must be based on reliable sources, the writing style must be neutral and objective, without using words such as wonderful, excellent, fantastic etc.
When I look at the posts on this forum, I have to conclude that probably not even 5% of the posts would be accepted on Wikipedia
People here really often write posts that are hard to understand, too long, that don't bring anything new to the discussion etc.
Each post must be clear and concise and give specific answers to the topic.
It is important to give a specific summary of the topic in the introduction, then give a detailed presentation of the topic and finally a concrete conclusion. It is important to be concise and not use too many words or explanations.
If there are links to more information, it is important to include them in the article for further verification and analysis.
Yeah I see most of the title of the topic in every thread are not as exciting or could be q good read. The title should interest the readers and that will help them get through understanding the content of the thread that should coincide the title. There are so many threads that has been created but mostly the titles are being poorly made and it won't interest the readers. If only users here will learn to post good title then that would make difference here in the forum.
You don't need ro quote if you are making a general reply to the OP.
You don't need to quote if you are replying to a post that is immediately above your reply.
You don't need to quote images.
Cool. Not quoting post that is above yours. But remember, some people do comment in a particular post without immediately following it up to the end after their own post. If you don't quote them, they won't know that someone has replied to their own post.You don't need to quote if you are replying to a post that is immediately above your reply.
You don't need to quote images.
Quoting images is out of the game. It's not right.
These two features include the basic information that everybody needs in this forum. But what happened so far, especially for newbies (spammers/shitposters), they will never read it, never pay attention to it, and will ignore it, only typing and posting what they want, without any researching first.
it is not only on this forum, actually, even in the telegram group, but many people are also still not willing to use the "search" button. I don't know why is it about laziness or habit of them.
it is not only on this forum, actually, even in the telegram group, but many people are also still not willing to use the "search" button. I don't know why is it about laziness or habit of them.
Don't over bold, highlight, paint, glow
You are right, it is likely when we are typing to someone or making an article, we must use them for only highlighting the certain words or sentences, It should indicate the important word/sentence, information, and also the exact words or sentences to be highlighted. if any of them are highlighted, we don't know what exactly most important there. Read topic title, OP, a few first and last posts before posting
It is what sometimes I made that bad habit. I am personally sometimes still not paying attention to this. Only read the title, OP thread, and also some few of the early posts, but not for the lasts. That is why, this is what I am learning here, should start doing better by reading more on the thread pages before posting. Thanks
I think this is the only guide in this forum about posting etiquette being made and it is wonderful to see how much a user could get from the great ideas being shared here in the forum. I could only say that this post is really helpful to promote quality posting here in the forum.
Yes, this is good and useful base on experience after making a quick search in the forum for a certain topics and shows a single thread that could answer my question.
However, starting a thread that has probably already taken or created from other users should be alright in my point of view. This will be another way of getting second opinion from other user seeing another posts that has been discussed already by the other user. This is one way of gathering and confirming information on the topic being search.
Yes, this is good and useful base on experience after making a quick search in the forum for a certain topics and shows a single thread that could answer my question.
However, starting a thread that has probably already taken or created from other users should be alright in my point of view. This will be another way of getting second opinion from other user seeing another posts that has been discussed already by the other user. This is one way of gathering and confirming information on the topic being search.
Lately I've seen some really long posts that could have used a TL;DR at the end, but including one requires the poster to have some consideration for their readers....and that usually just doesn't happen a lot on bitcointalk.
You are right. Last few weeks, I've seen many lengthy posts/ threads and I gave them advice too but they felt like I behaved arrogant with their style. I don't feel angry or dissapointed because with such guys I will never give them a same advice again like I wrote there mins agoMy disclosure: When I began here, I admired you and actmyname a lot because of your fighting against spam -- especially you who I looked at to learn vocab and grammar (I am non-native English speaker). actmyname is the one who sent me 14 sMerit in his contest (my very first merits).
Sure, I agree with you @TheBeardedBaby.
I do too, though I'm sometimes guilty of blabbering on--and it isn't because I'm counting characters for a sig campaign (like many users do) but because I have some sort of polygraphia disorder that makes me want to write. Lately I've seen some really long posts that could have used a TL;DR at the end, but including one requires the poster to have some consideration for their readers....and that usually just doesn't happen a lot on bitcointalk.it's a forum not a newspaper...
Just as an aside, if you can ever take a look at a newspaper from the late 1800s you might be astounded by how bloated the writing was, and news articles were often enormous blocks of text. I'm glad people figured out how to format articles/posts/etc. such that they can be read easily.One more thing: gentlemand is a master at writing witty and very concise posts. I wish I had half his talent.
Just a suggestion. On the extremly(not only) long posts with a lot of info, sometimes people get lost what is all about so adding a TL;DR (a shor summary) at the end of the post is really helful for those who have not time to read it all but in case it's interesting they will read it later.
This sould be a must but.. again if you can say with two sentences everything important that is written on a two pages post then do you really need the 2 pages post, it's a forum not a newspaper...
This sould be a must but.. again if you can say with two sentences everything important that is written on a two pages post then do you really need the 2 pages post, it's a forum not a newspaper...
You can avoid it easily with a few spent seconds but if you want to have a tool, here it is User Script: Automatically remove nested quotes v1.1.1
Thank you for the advice, I was just trying to find out how to get that ~snip~, cause I saw it is very useful. Had no idea that it is a script
Good thing is that I already have both monkeys Going to install the script now and hopefully it won't create more chaos until I get used to using it.
Sometimes it also becomes difficult to read a post that consists of one large block. The ease of perception is to keep a piece of content separate. Some large blocks of solid text are very frightening.
Short paragraphs of two to three sentences, and the use of blank lines between them, makes the text readable
In order not to tire the reader, the main idea can be conveyed in two lines.
Short paragraphs of two to three sentences, and the use of blank lines between them, makes the text readable
In order not to tire the reader, the main idea can be conveyed in two lines.
It is unnecessary to try make expansion for your replies. If you can answer with 10 words, that is the best. It's a waste of time to expand it to 100 words (also boring, and annyoing).
I'm not trying to impress anyone anyway, so why would I? Second, I don't have any intentions of expanding my posts every time I write. I only express what I think and it so happened that they're long. If my way of writing offends you, my apologies. To help readers understand who is the user you want to discuss with, use the horizontal line with hr to seperate between each user.
Oh yes! I use it also when I open a new idea relevant to the topic 
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