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Quote from: OgNasty on December 21, 2021, 03:30:54 PM

Luckily, your doubt cannot stop innovation and moving forward.

If it's indeed innovative and brings something new to this world, I'll hug it tight. It's just that I don't think it's as useful as you think. Alright, so we'll walk out with self-custody on our concert tickets, so what? I may be forced to use it, but that doesn't change my attitude towards it. Hell, I'm even gonna be forced to use CBDCs.

Quote from: OgNasty on December 21, 2021, 03:30:54 PM

NFTs are here to stay and people who think it is only about art and no different then people who thought Bitcoin was nothing more than useless fake money in 2011

Alright, would you mind telling me what else NFTs can do instead of *just* selling/buying rights of a product?

Quote from: OgNasty on December 21, 2021, 03:30:54 PM

It makes no difference what you or I think or even what we do.

It does matter a little, though. If I was crazy about NFTs I would chin in the network effect by a lot. Same thing happened with bitcoin. There were people who did contribute by a lot; it shouldn't be imagined it just broke one trillion plainly by its existence.

Quote from: OgNasty on December 21, 2021, 03:30:54 PM

I just hope Bitcoin can catch up as it's use cases have been dwindling for years while other chains are continuing to evolve the world into crypto.

I wish it won't, at least in a protocol level. I wish it stays as neutral as it currently is.

By the way, bitcoin did had NFTs, the so-called “Colored Coins”. What did it make those fail, Sherlock?

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Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on December 21, 2021, 02:26:21 AM

Quote from: OgNasty on December 20, 2021, 06:36:04 PM

Whether you like NFTs or not, someday you won’t have the option to not buy one if you ever want to attend a concert or sporting event.

Until this happens, let me have my doubts it will.

You are always free to doubt friend. I was in Bitcoin back in 2011, I'm familiar very much with people not understanding and then dismissing new world changing technologies before giving them a chance. Luckily, your doubt cannot stop innovation and moving forward. NFTs are here to stay and people who think it is only about art and no different then people who thought Bitcoin was nothing more than useless fake money in 2011. Time will prove right those who can visualize the future. It makes no difference what you or I think or even what we do. I just hope Bitcoin can catch up as it's use cases have been dwindling for years while other chains are continuing to evolve the world into crypto.

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I think this is necessary, but needs a specific upgrade, nft can apply to meme icons, can also be a form of decoration for members, or an nft content creation.

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Farewell, Leo

Quote from: OgNasty on December 20, 2021, 06:36:04 PM

Let me take a wild guess, you got involved in crypto for the currency aspect?

No, but that's what honestly kept me.

Quote from: OgNasty on December 20, 2021, 06:36:04 PM

Not everybody is in this space only for the money. Some people want to build cool things.

They may aren't here to make some profit, but they are all for the money. Whether they see it as a get-rich-quick scheme, an investment, a store-of-value or a currency they are all for the money. All these are part of finance.

Yes, they want to build some cool things such as NFTs. I never said they're useless or that their reason of existence is exclusively speculative, but I can't deny that it's not part of finance. They're result of work on top of a currency. They cannot be realistically seen outside finance.

Quote from: OgNasty on December 20, 2021, 06:36:04 PM

Whether you like NFTs or not, someday you won’t have the option to not buy one if you ever want to attend a concert or sporting event.

Until this happens, let me have my doubts it will.

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Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on December 20, 2021, 03:36:31 PM

Quote from: libert19 on December 19, 2021, 11:28:59 PM

If tweets can be sold as nft why not bitcointalk posts?

To be honest, I haven't understood why should tweets be sold in the first place.

Neither do I, but people buy them at amounts one would consider absurd.

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Quote from: Pmalek on December 20, 2021, 03:49:12 AM

My post was meant as a ridicule of most implementations of NFTs.

Lol. I picked up on it! After the second read-through, of course. Sarcasm just doesn't translate well in forum posts for some reason.

If you can make an NFT out of a bitcointalk post--and if there's someone suggesting it--I think that's a sign that the mania is about to hit its peak. IMO that peak can't come too soon, because I can't seem to avoid hearing about these worthless things no matter where I go. Everyone is talking about them as if they're the new bitcoin, and how much money can be made from them, etc. But somehow I never hear compelling arguments as to why they should be worth anything at all.

So what if you "owned" one of Satoshi's posts (or someone else's)? Is that something you're going to treasure years from now? Hand down to your kids? Not likely. More likely is that if you can't find a sucker to unload it to, you'll be stuck owning a piece of digital trash that doesn't truly represent anything unique and that no one will ever care about, much less want to buy at any price.

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Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on December 20, 2021, 03:50:30 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on December 20, 2021, 03:38:09 PM

NFTs are the most functional and useful thing that has entered the crypto space in a long time and NFTs in gaming might be Bitcoin's first real use case that anyone outside of finance would give a shit about

First real use case of a currency outside finance. Of a currency. Outside finance. Seemingly absurd.

Let me take a wild guess, you got involved in crypto for the currency aspect? Not everybody is in this space only for the money. Some people want to build cool things. Whether you like NFTs or not, someday you won’t have the option to not buy one if you ever want to attend a concert or sporting event. What currency you use to pay for it will likely be up to you.

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Farewell, Leo

Quote from: OgNasty on December 20, 2021, 03:38:09 PM

No, bitcointalk didn't join the ICO scams, it just advertised them for money.

Bitcointalk or some shitposters?

Quote from: OgNasty on December 20, 2021, 03:38:09 PM

It didn't create it's own fork, it just censored the ones others worked on.

For your information, the scam known as BSV still has some fraudulent supporters on this very place with their own little thread in which they censor everybody. However, it's part of the rules to be as free as possible;

Quote from: OgNasty on December 20, 2021, 03:38:09 PM

NFTs are the most functional and useful thing that has entered the crypto space in a long time and NFTs in gaming might be Bitcoin's first real use case that anyone outside of finance would give a shit about

First real use case of a currency outside finance. Of a currency. Outside finance. Seemingly absurd.

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Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on December 20, 2021, 03:36:31 PM

However, the purpose of NFTs isn't about the content, but the rights of it.

Yeah, NFTs actually make quite a bit of sense in certain scenarios, though that's limited, and currently we're going through a phase of everything in the world becoming an NFT, which in a lot of instances doesn't really make all that much sense.

Especially, Bitconitalk posts. Doesn't make sense to me, and I'd say Twitter is the same. Though, I do accept that's the way the world is going currently. I do think its a phase though, and a lot of people will be looking back at this somewhat like the ICO craze a few years ago.

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Quote from: LoyceV on December 20, 2021, 11:44:52 AM

Bitcointalk didn't join the ICO scams, Bitcointalk didn't create it's own Fork, Bitcointalk doesn't join the Defi-hype and Bitcointalk sure as hell won't join the latest money making scheme called NFT.
Months ago I saw a good picture explaining it in WO, but I can't find it back. Something like: NFT means you don't own something, you can't take it home and you can't stop others from using it, but if you go to one specific made-up blockchain, it will tell you it's yours. That's BS. Bottled air is more real!

No, bitcointalk didn't join the ICO scams, it just advertised them for money. It didn't create it's own fork, it just censored the ones others worked on. It didn't join the DeFi-hype, it left millions of dollars in unclaimed HEX on the table. Not entering the NFT space would be no less destructive than the other decisions listed here. Especially if L2 is supposed to be the way forward. NFTs are the most functional and useful thing that has entered the crypto space in a long time and NFTs in gaming might be Bitcoin's first real use case that anyone outside of finance would give a shit about... You either get it or you don't. You clearly don't and that's ok. Innovation isn't for everyone. Right click and save, am I right? Cheesy

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Farewell, Leo

Whoever didn't know it, NFTs were a thing in bitcoin long before they gain this name; they just didn't get enough interest: Colored Coins.

Quote from: libert19 on December 19, 2021, 11:28:59 PM

If tweets can be sold as nft why not bitcointalk posts?

To be honest, I haven't understood why should tweets be sold in the first place. Wanna give me one reason?

Quote from: Pmalek on December 20, 2021, 02:50:13 AM

Luckily, once someone becomes an NFT owner of a Bitcointalk post, no one else can see the post publicly.

This is not true unless both the seller and buyer agree not to which never happens. The buyer mysteriously seems willing to re-sell it in a higher price than the one they bought it and uploads it on every NFT marketplace.

However, the purpose of NFTs isn't about the content, but the rights of it.

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Quote from: Pmalek on December 20, 2021, 02:50:13 AM

Luckily, once someone becomes an NFT owner of a Bitcointalk post, no one else can see the post publicly. You can no longer click on it, you can't copy-paste it, or quote it. It completely disappears from the face of the earth (Internet) and can only be found in the buyer's Ethereum wallet.

I like this. Can we NFT all scams and the Press board?

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Bitcointalk didn't join the ICO scams, Bitcointalk didn't create it's own Fork, Bitcointalk doesn't join the Defi-hype and Bitcointalk sure as hell won't join the latest money making scheme called NFT.
Months ago I saw a good picture explaining it in WO, but I can't find it back. Something like: NFT means you don't own something, you can't take it home and you can't stop others from using it, but if you go to one specific made-up blockchain, it will tell you it's yours. That's BS. Bottled air is more real!

That being said, if anyone is dumb enough to offer Bitcoin to get a made-up token on a made-up chain that makes them think they own my posts: feel free to make me an offer! Bidding starts at 69BTC.

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Quote from: Lucius on December 20, 2021, 09:54:58 AM

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This reminded me of that $69 million worth of that painting, Beeple, although it is not something drawn by a 3 year old child but it is only a digital art that you usually saw around the internet and is just being categorized as NFTs.
Well if what you said keeps happening, I can only imagine someone downloading random image in any image hosting website, doing some photoshop into it, and publishing it in the internet with cost of thousand bucks.

My source: Beeple sold an NFT for $69 million
Nice price, I just noticed lol.

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I think the whole thing about these NTFs is so pointless that it's not clear to me who and why is paying a few hundred thousand $ for something that looks like it was drawn by a 3 year old child? The idea of someone monetizing forum members' posts in this way is even more absurd, because they would have to seek the consent of the owners of those same posts for such things - and I'm sure not everyone would agree.

Besides, this is not the first idea that came up when it comes to the NTF and the forum.

Bitcointalk NFT tokens

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I don't know what I'm trying to say about the NFT you're talking about, but if the goal is to help fund the forum, I don't think NFT is necessary. NFT is the new hype where we can see it as too high and too expensive (in some cases) but I don't think forums need NFT just to get funding. If the forum really wants to capitalize on the hype, then we currently have token or coin in its name on the market with fundraising through ICOs, IEOs and so on. But it looks like forum can skip all that because I don't think income is one of the main goals of this forum.

So far the forum has source of revenue from advertising to pay moderators but if indeed the forum needs more funding then I think admins can think of more great things than NFT which I think will only last a while. I know NFT is fine if someone wants to do it, but who's going to buy someone else's reasonable post for a great price?

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Quote from: noorman0 on December 20, 2021, 05:43:40 AM

By the way, is this user violating copyright?

I would say they are and only the copyright owner can market the art they created and if you want to do so, you'll need their permission. However, in this case, Satoshi is no longer on the forum and no one can seek permission from him, so I'm not perfectly sure of the laws about it and who one would need to seek permission from.

Quote from: libert19 on December 19, 2021, 11:28:59 PM

If tweets can be sold as nft why not bitcointalk posts?

The scope of NFTs is so broad now and probably abused, but it is perfectly possible to put up a bitcointalk post for sale, whether anyone would or should buy is another topic.

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Quote from: Welsh on December 20, 2021, 05:11:38 AM

NFT's in the most part seem a lot like going to the park in the city where the air is supposedly cleaner, bottling it, and selling it to people that are rushing to work in their cars. Why on earth someone would want to own a Bitcointalk post, that someone else wrote just doesn't make much sense.

NFT's have their uses I suppose, but Bitcointalk posts aren't that. NFT's are just being abused, and overused for a means of making money. It'll fade away given enough time. It does make you laugh though, that someone that's free, and open to all is now being peddled as something that's exclusive, and worth something, like Twitter posts. A bit ridiculous really, especially considering most Bitcoin users would have once upon a time liked the idea that its decentralised.

Anyway, Bitcointalk posts as NFTs? Nah, not going to happen.

Hey, I think it's pointless as well, but if some rich dudes that has too much money wants to bid it up it and the money ends up going to a good cause, then I'm all for it. It's not like they're going to get scammed or something; they totally know what they're getting when paying for an NFT.

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If you're curious how high people's interest is in nft bitcointalk posts. Some time ago I came across this nft "artist", and you can see he is trying to sell Satoshi's welcome post on this forum. Looks like it hasn't been sold yet. Maybe because marketing factors affect, or basically forum posts are not interesting to be used as nft.

By the way, is this user violating copyright?

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NFT's in the most part seem a lot like going to the park in the city where the air is supposedly cleaner, bottling it, and selling it to people that are rushing to work in their cars. Why on earth someone would want to own a Bitcointalk post, that someone else wrote just doesn't make much sense.

NFT's have their uses I suppose, but Bitcointalk posts aren't that. NFT's are just being abused, and overused for a means of making money. It'll fade away given enough time. It does make you laugh though, that someone that's free, and open to all is now being peddled as something that's exclusive, and worth something, like Twitter posts. A bit ridiculous really, especially considering most Bitcoin users would have once upon a time liked the idea that its decentralised.

Anyway, Bitcointalk posts as NFTs? Nah, not going to happen.

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