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This is a libertarian type forum. The main idea of it's management is the least possible interaction in other's people affairs. So get used to it.

But that doesn't have to mean complete lawlessness.
Here where the decentralization aspect comes in - the community should cope with and police it by themselves.

True and I agree, but as with 'policing' disputes etc, this also sometimes doesn't work out or isn't enough.
Why? Angry mobs usually make sure of punishment.

Vigilante mobs also often end up attacking the wrong person.
Governments often make mistakes as well and they can "make mistakes" for people who don't like them.

True, but again I refer you my post above, but no system is perfect.
Well, if no system is perfect then why not leave it without any system like now? Grin
its one of best suggestions here we have to leave this without any policy and enjoy this

Really? Complete lawlessness?  Just people scamming and spamming left right and centre? I'm a Libertarian Socialist (some may say that's Anarchism), but I don't believe in this sort of anarchy.
sr. member
Activity: 392
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This is a libertarian type forum. The main idea of it's management is the least possible interaction in other's people affairs. So get used to it.

But that doesn't have to mean complete lawlessness.
Here where the decentralization aspect comes in - the community should cope with and police it by themselves.

True and I agree, but as with 'policing' disputes etc, this also sometimes doesn't work out or isn't enough.
Why? Angry mobs usually make sure of punishment.

Vigilante mobs also often end up attacking the wrong person.
Governments often make mistakes as well and they can "make mistakes" for people who don't like them.

True, but again I refer you my post above, but no system is perfect.
Well, if no system is perfect then why not leave it without any system like now? Grin
its one of best suggestions here we have to leave this without any policy and enjoy this
global moderator
Activity: 3794
Merit: 2652
In a world of peaches, don't ask for apple sauce
This is a libertarian type forum. The main idea of it's management is the least possible interaction in other's people affairs. So get used to it.

But that doesn't have to mean complete lawlessness.
Here where the decentralization aspect comes in - the community should cope with and police it by themselves.

True and I agree, but as with 'policing' disputes etc, this also sometimes doesn't work out or isn't enough.
Why? Angry mobs usually make sure of punishment.

Vigilante mobs also often end up attacking the wrong person.
Governments often make mistakes as well and they can "make mistakes" for people who don't like them.

True, but again I refer you my post above, but no system is perfect.
Well, if no system is perfect then why not leave it without any system like now? Grin
global moderator
Activity: 4046
Merit: 2732
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This is a libertarian type forum. The main idea of it's management is the least possible interaction in other's people affairs. So get used to it.

But that doesn't have to mean complete lawlessness.
Here where the decentralization aspect comes in - the community should cope with and police it by themselves.

True and I agree, but as with 'policing' disputes etc, this also sometimes doesn't work out or isn't enough.
Why? Angry mobs usually make sure of punishment.

Vigilante mobs also often end up attacking the wrong person.
Governments often make mistakes as well and they can "make mistakes" for people who don't like them.

True, but again I refer you my post above, but no system is perfect.
global moderator
Activity: 3794
Merit: 2652
In a world of peaches, don't ask for apple sauce
This is a libertarian type forum. The main idea of it's management is the least possible interaction in other's people affairs. So get used to it.

But that doesn't have to mean complete lawlessness.
Here where the decentralization aspect comes in - the community should cope with and police it by themselves.

True and I agree, but as with 'policing' disputes etc, this also sometimes doesn't work out or isn't enough.
Why? Angry mobs usually make sure of punishment.

Vigilante mobs also often end up attacking the wrong person.
Governments often make mistakes as well and they can "make mistakes" for people who don't like them.
global moderator
Activity: 4046
Merit: 2732
Join the world-leading crypto sportsbook NOW!
This is a libertarian type forum. The main idea of it's management is the least possible interaction in other's people affairs. So get used to it.

But that doesn't have to mean complete lawlessness.
Here where the decentralization aspect comes in - the community should cope with and police it by themselves.

True and I agree, but as with 'policing' disputes etc, this also sometimes doesn't work out or isn't enough.
Why? Angry mobs usually make sure of punishment.

Vigilante mobs also often end up attacking the wrong person.
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
This is a libertarian type forum. The main idea of it's management is the least possible interaction in other's people affairs. So get used to it.

But that doesn't have to mean complete lawlessness.
yes we need some laws and stick moderation to stop many scams happening in last few days
global moderator
Activity: 3794
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In a world of peaches, don't ask for apple sauce
This is a libertarian type forum. The main idea of it's management is the least possible interaction in other's people affairs. So get used to it.

But that doesn't have to mean complete lawlessness.
Here where the decentralization aspect comes in - the community should cope with and police it by themselves.

True and I agree, but as with 'policing' disputes etc, this also sometimes doesn't work out or isn't enough.
Why? Angry mobs usually make sure of punishment.
global moderator
Activity: 4046
Merit: 2732
Join the world-leading crypto sportsbook NOW!
This is a libertarian type forum. The main idea of it's management is the least possible interaction in other's people affairs. So get used to it.

But that doesn't have to mean complete lawlessness.
Here where the decentralization aspect comes in - the community should cope with and police it by themselves.

True and I agree, but as with 'policing' disputes etc, this also sometimes doesn't work out or isn't enough.
global moderator
Activity: 3794
Merit: 2652
In a world of peaches, don't ask for apple sauce
This is a libertarian type forum. The main idea of it's management is the least possible interaction in other's people affairs. So get used to it.

But that doesn't have to mean complete lawlessness.
Here where the decentralization aspect comes in - the community should cope with and police it by themselves.

I wonder if one of the escrow guys would ever concider starting a full fledged bitcoin escrow website? You would enter the specific details of each transaction into a webpage. it then gives you a quote and you can then submit it so an email gets sent out to the buyer/seller to which they can commit to the transaction after signing up. Everytime the transaction is updated with shipping or tracking info it is automatically emailed to all 3 members of the transaction. Is there such a thing? 
Yeah, there are automated escrows provided by reputable members. Can't really name them now but I've seen a few around here.
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I guess its how i was raised. If there is a problem, find a solution.

Yeah... alibaba and is 40  scammer and more

a solution can be found, BTC weight 10 000 000 000 $  and the same weight in fu+++++  Scam.

I never thinking about a solution but  i'm agree Modérator of bitcointalk could do something 
People are stupid but it's not a reason; Everyone want a piece of big BTC cake and when the scam is clean a lot of serious man, broke her head    Undecided
sr. member
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This is a libertarian type forum. The main idea of it's management is the least possible interaction in other's people affairs. So get used to it.

But that doesn't have to mean complete lawlessness.
Here where the decentralization aspect comes in - the community should cope with and police it by themselves.

I wonder if one of the escrow guys would ever concider starting a full fledged bitcoin escrow website? You would enter the specific details of each transaction into a webpage. it then gives you a quote and you can then submit it so an email gets sent out to the buyer/seller to which they can commit to the transaction after signing up. Everytime the transaction is updated with shipping or tracking info it is automatically emailed to all 3 members of the transaction. Is there such a thing? 
global moderator
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In a world of peaches, don't ask for apple sauce
This is a libertarian type forum. The main idea of it's management is the least possible interaction in other's people affairs. So get used to it.

But that doesn't have to mean complete lawlessness.
Here where the decentralization aspect comes in - the community should cope with and police it by themselves.
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This is a libertarian type forum. The main idea of it's management is the least possible interaction in other's people affairs. So get used to it.

But that doesn't have to mean complete lawlessness.
global moderator
Activity: 3794
Merit: 2652
In a world of peaches, don't ask for apple sauce
This is a libertarian type forum. The main idea of it's management is the least possible interaction in other's people affairs. So get used to it.
legendary
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With a forum this big moderating is no simple tasks.

its a massive forum almost as big as the internet itself  Cheesy
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I guess the argument they will make is that banning them wont stop them from scamming; they'll just create a new account and start over again with a fresh slate.

I understand that. So cant they block that IP address to make it a little less streamlined for them? its like shooting fish in a barrel.




IP blocking someone is almost useless. There are tons of proxies/vpn's and even simpler are dynamic IP's. Negative Trust from "default trust" list will drive most of the business away from the scammer though.

Even still, ban the username, along with their IP address and email address. They then have to make a new hotmail/outlook account and register again with a different IP on bitcointalk.org.

I can make multiple scam accounts on ebay or troll accounts on youtube but after a while all of the verifying becomes so tedious that its not even worth the effort. We need that here. The goal isnt to eliminate scammers (impossible) its to make it annoyingly difficult to have multiple accounts.

I don't think scammers are that fussed about creating a new email and user account, especially when there's Bitcoins to be earned.
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I guess the argument they will make is that banning them wont stop them from scamming; they'll just create a new account and start over again with a fresh slate.

I understand that. So cant they block that IP address to make it a little less streamlined for them? its like shooting fish in a barrel.




IP blocking someone is almost useless. There are tons of proxies/vpn's and even simpler are dynamic IP's. Negative Trust from "default trust" list will drive most of the business away from the scammer though.

Even still, ban the username, along with their IP address and email address. They then have to make a new hotmail/outlook account and register again with a different IP on bitcointalk.org.

I can make multiple scam accounts on ebay or troll accounts on youtube but after a while all of the verifying becomes so tedious that its not even worth the effort. We need that here. The goal isnt to eliminate scammers (impossible) its to make it annoyingly difficult to have multiple accounts.
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With a forum this big moderating is no simple tasks.
legendary
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And there's a "Ignore" button...

Internet is a jungle and you need to be smart to survive.
is there really an ignore button :-O didnt know it before Grin now I'm educated

It's underneath users names.
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