if its Max then he has the dox of almost every collector on the board anyway - if people aren't happy with that I know MJ offers the most reliable reship service out there.
Topic: Bitcointalk.org collectible coin ideas & vote - page 2. (Read 2169 times)
but obviously I'd need to know users who would be 100% okay with providing a shipping address as I don't want to be announcing users who won't, and then having to find someone else for it. Its a complex situation, but that's a long time down the road from now.
As long as this addresses are being kept privately just on a single person then I guess there shouldn't be any problem on us users here. AFAIK, all of the users who wants this coin will be able to provide that needed address and other infos necessary for delivery. 
Giving my adress to a single trusted person (manufacturer for instance) is perfectly fine for me, and for most people doing trades here on the forum I think 
What's theymos's say on all of this? I mean the community wouldn't really mind, generally speaking. And of course, people who would want to wait and eagerly receive this will do so, but some of them would probably even reject it, knowing how conscious they are when it comes to privacy(don't @ me,I am not attacking you )
How's the funding gonna work for this? I haven't read the entire thread yet :/.
I still haven't received a reply off the manufacturer since they said they were interested so I'm still in the dark whether this is actually possible, and the more time that goes along the more unlikely this will be to happen. Although, you can bet your buck that I'll be wanting to help organize the 20th anniversary one with a little more time to plan, and get things done. Anyway, before committing to anything I'd be asking the communities feedback on the choice of manufacturer, and of course the nitty gritty details. )How's the funding gonna work for this? I haven't read the entire thread yet :/.
I've thought about ways of distributing it, and having a poll where users can say that they would be willing to send their address/PO box, alternatively shipping could be handled by the manufacturer if a deal can be worked out. Ideally, I want to know who would be willing to send their address (or I would recommend a PO box), but without guaranteeing they would get a coin. I would like the announcement of who gets a coin to be a surprise somewhat, but obviously I'd need to know users who would be 100% okay with providing a shipping address as I don't want to be announcing users who won't, and then having to find someone else for it. Its a complex situation, but that's a long time down the road from now.
All coins would likely be able to be funded by the user, but a majority of the coins will be made unfunded with maybe a few with a small amount on it. Nothing big.
One manufacturer on the forum has got back to me. However, they are not one of the options in the poll. I have yet to respond to their message as I'd like some community input into this.
The coin would not be ready this year. I think this was always going to be the case. If I could possibly get a concept made up, and presented to the community this year it would be nice. However, these are the figures they've come back with:
Time requirement: 2-6 months
Custom hologram: +1 month
Precious metal: + 3 months
Of course, they can't guarantee there won't be any hiccups along the way. I guess, my question to the community is if we could make this work, would you guys be interested in receiving a 10th anniversary coin almost a year later? I would have to work out the finer details with them, but at least they've said they are willing to do it. I'm assuming that theymos would not brand this official if its a year later, but I would have to ask that question if the quality is good enough.
What's theymos's say on all of this? I mean the community wouldn't really mind, generally speaking. And of course, people who would want to wait and eagerly receive this will do so, but some of them would probably even reject it, knowing how conscious they are when it comes to privacy(don't @ me,I am not attacking you The coin would not be ready this year. I think this was always going to be the case. If I could possibly get a concept made up, and presented to the community this year it would be nice. However, these are the figures they've come back with:
Time requirement: 2-6 months
Custom hologram: +1 month
Precious metal: + 3 months
Of course, they can't guarantee there won't be any hiccups along the way. I guess, my question to the community is if we could make this work, would you guys be interested in receiving a 10th anniversary coin almost a year later? I would have to work out the finer details with them, but at least they've said they are willing to do it. I'm assuming that theymos would not brand this official if its a year later, but I would have to ask that question if the quality is good enough.
)How's the funding gonna work for this? I haven't read the entire thread yet :/.
If I were to receive one I would be fine waiting for as long as it takes to get them done right. It's not receiving and having them in hand at the 10 year that matters, it's purpose is to represent the milestone. Thanks for keeping up the legwork Welsh.
300 coins, so we have a bigger chance to get 1
Made by Kialara or smoothie, the first thought is casascius as he is the first who starts it, but both of them have better coin design imo.
funded, obviously, we need something precious inside not just an empty coin.
With personalised certificate
Design chosen by community competition
Made by Kialara or smoothie, the first thought is casascius as he is the first who starts it, but both of them have better coin design imo.
funded, obviously, we need something precious inside not just an empty coin.
With personalised certificate
Design chosen by community competition
I guess, my question to the community is if we could make this work, would you guys be interested in receiving a 10th anniversary coin almost a year later?
I'm a patient person, so it doesn't bother me to wait a few more months.
And for the 20th anniversary, we will now know that we have to do it several months before the deadline
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Quality takes time.
Getting it 1 year late won't have any importance 10 years from now
All in for me.
Getting it 1 year late won't have any importance 10 years from now
All in for me.
One manufacturer on the forum has got back to me. However, they are not one of the options in the poll. I have yet to respond to their message as I'd like some community input into this.
The coin would not be ready this year. I think this was always going to be the case. If I could possibly get a concept made up, and presented to the community this year it would be nice. However, these are the figures they've come back with:
Time requirement: 2-6 months
Custom hologram: +1 month
Precious metal: + 3 months
Of course, they can't guarantee there won't be any hiccups along the way. I guess, my question to the community is if we could make this work, would you guys be interested in receiving a 10th anniversary coin almost a year later? I would have to work out the finer details with them, but at least they've said they are willing to do it. I'm assuming that theymos would not brand this official if its a year later, but I would have to ask that question if the quality is good enough.
The coin would not be ready this year. I think this was always going to be the case. If I could possibly get a concept made up, and presented to the community this year it would be nice. However, these are the figures they've come back with:
Time requirement: 2-6 months
Custom hologram: +1 month
Precious metal: + 3 months
Of course, they can't guarantee there won't be any hiccups along the way. I guess, my question to the community is if we could make this work, would you guys be interested in receiving a 10th anniversary coin almost a year later? I would have to work out the finer details with them, but at least they've said they are willing to do it. I'm assuming that theymos would not brand this official if its a year later, but I would have to ask that question if the quality is good enough.
The coin, or medal, should also have a material value. For example, made of gold or silver? Maybe even 1 ounce?
But I am curious how this project will develop. I hope I will also get a exemplar
cryptocurrency + numismatics = cryptonumis:)
But I am curious how this project will develop. I hope I will also get a exemplar
cryptocurrency + numismatics = cryptonumis:)
I picked funded and unfunded.
If awarded a coin winner should have the choice of funding it.
I picked 300 coins.
Give out 100. Auction 200.
Or give out 150. Auction 150.
The awarded coin is free to the winner unless he want to fund it. But funding it is winners choice.
The auction coins could be a mix of funded or not funded.
If awarded a coin winner should have the choice of funding it.
I picked 300 coins.
Give out 100. Auction 200.
Or give out 150. Auction 150.
The awarded coin is free to the winner unless he want to fund it. But funding it is winners choice.
The auction coins could be a mix of funded or not funded.
being relatively new here - just at almost 2 years - I would find it a shame if there was not a way someone like me could get one. I see the coin as most importantly commemorating the forums not to recognize any member or set of members, especially not based on their status or merit as we all know accounts are bought each and every day and merit is easily farmed by those nefarious to do so.
Hey guys,
Just became aware that this discussion re opened, thanks to Welsh.
Thank you for taking the initiative to take this great idea further.
I believe 100 coins are not nearly enough. 300 would be about right. Maybe we should decide on the formula first and then use a statistical approach to decide the amount of coins?
Also if the amount is too low, it could turn in something really valuable really fast. And I don't like the idea of such a commemorative coin to be turned into a speculative asset.
Like once we have the scoring, take the top xx%. 10th percentile or somthing.
As for the funding, I believe it should, even if it was only a non substantial amount. Reason for this? People hang longer to stuff that has an actual facial value. This means less of these coins would get lost over time (hopefully).
Finally regarding the payment, at least the funding should be paid for by the member (and low enough that any member receiving it can actually afford it). Same goes for shipping (I guess).
Depend on the price of making it would be nice if the price was supported by the forum as a "gift" to said members. It would also differentiate this coin to other collectibles you can just "buy". It would make it even more special IMHO.
@yogg, I thought about you the moment I read this, but I must admit, for this particular event, I think a coin would be better than a card. It really reminds the first "coins" made by already mentioned members (within the poll).
Just became aware that this discussion re opened, thanks to Welsh.
Thank you for taking the initiative to take this great idea further.
I believe 100 coins are not nearly enough. 300 would be about right. Maybe we should decide on the formula first and then use a statistical approach to decide the amount of coins?
Also if the amount is too low, it could turn in something really valuable really fast. And I don't like the idea of such a commemorative coin to be turned into a speculative asset.
Like once we have the scoring, take the top xx%. 10th percentile or somthing.
As for the funding, I believe it should, even if it was only a non substantial amount. Reason for this? People hang longer to stuff that has an actual facial value. This means less of these coins would get lost over time (hopefully).
Finally regarding the payment, at least the funding should be paid for by the member (and low enough that any member receiving it can actually afford it). Same goes for shipping (I guess).
Depend on the price of making it would be nice if the price was supported by the forum as a "gift" to said members. It would also differentiate this coin to other collectibles you can just "buy". It would make it even more special IMHO.
@yogg, I thought about you the moment I read this, but I must admit, for this particular event, I think a coin would be better than a card. It really reminds the first "coins" made by already mentioned members (within the poll).
Facepalm.....
The whole logistics of something like this is a nightmare... speaking from experience with the Zepher coins distribution.
That was hard enough and those were FREE......
I would say that Bitcoin Penny is the BEST candidate to produce something like this.
And limit of 300?? there are thousands of forum members......
The whole logistics of something like this is a nightmare... speaking from experience with the Zepher coins distribution.
That was hard enough and those were FREE......
I would say that Bitcoin Penny is the BEST candidate to produce something like this.
And limit of 300?? there are thousands of forum members......
Yes thousands, but handfuls of true BTC'ers, lot of turds floating around as well, 100 would keep this coin very special and something real forum users would please to have as an extend of there BTC collection, or even for dedicated forum-addicts it would be a nice office piece to hold on and treasure.
300 would already be a bit to much imo, if my STRONGhands get a grip on one, then better belief it ain't gonna be redistributed any day soon
@Janemil, one gold coin in a raffle among the silver buyers would be madness, people would do accidents for that 1 gold piece
Limiting this coin to older users isn't the way too go that's not what I'm suggesting when I say greatly contributes to the forum or an historical figure within the forum. In a hypothetical example;
A historical figure could be a user who registered six months ago, but squashed one of the highest critical forum security bounties saving the forum from being compromised. As long as they're still active then they would likely be in the running to get a coin. As well as users who are clearly passionate about the forum, and have gone out of their way to make this forum a better place. Its these sorts of things which should be considered when selecting users, and not just based on activity or merit.
I think a combination of the above, and BPIP's recognition system could potentially be combined to determine who has higher priority over others, but again I don't think I want to be involved in the selection process of who gets what coin. I do have users in mind for the coin as I'm sure everyone does. Plus, I'm doing a little historical project which involves the forum a little bit which definitely has brought up users that I wasn't aware of, but having the ultimate decision over who gets it is a very hard decision to make. Plus, its highly likely someone would find a problem with selecting users from the recognition algorithm if I'm in it or even if theymos is in it. I'd like to avoid conflict of interest as much as possible.
If this was to become a reality, theymos would likely be the best option to pick. Whether he would want too would be another story, but he knows the inner happenings of the forum as well as been here a very long time. I don't think there's any decentralized way of selecting users without it being abused.
A historical figure could be a user who registered six months ago, but squashed one of the highest critical forum security bounties saving the forum from being compromised. As long as they're still active then they would likely be in the running to get a coin. As well as users who are clearly passionate about the forum, and have gone out of their way to make this forum a better place. Its these sorts of things which should be considered when selecting users, and not just based on activity or merit.
I think a combination of the above, and BPIP's recognition system could potentially be combined to determine who has higher priority over others, but again I don't think I want to be involved in the selection process of who gets what coin. I do have users in mind for the coin as I'm sure everyone does. Plus, I'm doing a little historical project which involves the forum a little bit which definitely has brought up users that I wasn't aware of, but having the ultimate decision over who gets it is a very hard decision to make. Plus, its highly likely someone would find a problem with selecting users from the recognition algorithm if I'm in it or even if theymos is in it. I'd like to avoid conflict of interest as much as possible.
If this was to become a reality, theymos would likely be the best option to pick. Whether he would want too would be another story, but he knows the inner happenings of the forum as well as been here a very long time. I don't think there's any decentralized way of selecting users without it being abused.
I reeeeallly love this idea and everything behind this, but like have a few suggesh:
- 300 users are kinda a little too less, anyone who has received idk like 100-200 merits should have a chance to grab one of these coins if they were to be available. 500 should be kinda justified.
- 300 users are kinda a little too less, anyone who has received idk like 100-200 merits should have a chance to grab one of these coins if they were to be available. 500 should be kinda justified.
It's not really that epic an achievement to get that many merits and you can manage it without being a particularly stunning or established member. I think it would be better kept for the proper OGs. There'll always have to be a cut off somewhere and opening it up to people who might have only been here for a year or less doesn't make much sense.
I do think the same as gentlemand, and keep the amount of coins low like 100 to keep them special.
Maybe a user must be a bit OG older (damn speaking against myself here), but as well a good trusted and positive active user could maybe have a chance to get hands on a coin?
I would go for 100 coins, (I wouldn't say no to coin 21) 
Designer difficult, Kialara would be my choice from the given ones (no offend do love the others as well)
But bitcoinpenny would be awesome as well as a few others I came across with, very difficult to select one ....
Maybe a thread where they can all make a prototype or something, pick the best and most dedicated one to the forum from there.?
I would spread them unfunded, with option to fund if one pleases...
I would suggest a certificate of authentic, but not a personal one.
If one wants or gets select, I would suggest to be paid for by the buyer himself...
Design chosen by a majority, not by one man, keep it decentralised
I think this could lead to an awesome BTCT community collectible coin, what would be an honour to be of owning one...
I do hope the design would refer to some specific of BTC as to the forum (this will be a non easy job)
Designer difficult, Kialara would be my choice from the given ones (no offend do love the others as well)
But bitcoinpenny would be awesome as well as a few others I came across with, very difficult to select one ....
Maybe a thread where they can all make a prototype or something, pick the best and most dedicated one to the forum from there.?
I would spread them unfunded, with option to fund if one pleases...
I would suggest a certificate of authentic, but not a personal one.
If one wants or gets select, I would suggest to be paid for by the buyer himself...
Design chosen by a majority, not by one man, keep it decentralised
I think this could lead to an awesome BTCT community collectible coin, what would be an honour to be of owning one...
I do hope the design would refer to some specific of BTC as to the forum (this will be a non easy job)
An idea that I had was if there was a way of going about getting users to fill in a form (with no personal information) stating that they would be willing to accept a coin without knowing that they'll be getting a coin we could create the serialized numbers equal to their forum url ID which I think would have made a real neat touch.
However, that form could be abused, and trolling could occur. At the moment no manufacturer on the forum has gotten back to me saying they're interested except for Denarium. However, they are yet to confirm if they would be 100% interested, and just told me they would have to get back to me. Which either means, we wait for another significant date of the forum, and plan well in advance this time or we look elsewhere off the forum which in my opinion takes away from the whole community coin philosophy. I'm hoping Yogg's project will be a significant effort, and will hopefully plug the hole if this doesn't materialize.
However, that form could be abused, and trolling could occur. At the moment no manufacturer on the forum has gotten back to me saying they're interested except for Denarium. However, they are yet to confirm if they would be 100% interested, and just told me they would have to get back to me. Which either means, we wait for another significant date of the forum, and plan well in advance this time or we look elsewhere off the forum which in my opinion takes away from the whole community coin philosophy. I'm hoping Yogg's project will be a significant effort, and will hopefully plug the hole if this doesn't materialize.
For us, the best would be to make only one serialized item, unregardless of the user rankings, etc.
I agree. Twenty years from now, no one will care that one was a Hero Member and one was Legendary . Just the Grey Cup / Superbowl (and most other) rings just have year and not the position.
At this point let's concentrate more on the design, and less on who will get them. I'm sure something fair will be proposed based on the last ten years, and not recent events.
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