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Topic: BITCOINTALK.ORG: Is being turned into nothing more than an Bitcoin pumping site. (Read 746 times)

hero member
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Lots of people believe bitcoin is scam and they are posting on this forum as well. When you will read this thread which has made on July 13, 2012 called "A Scam" then you will discover few people believed bitcoin is scam. But all comments still alive and you are able to read them. So is it not freedom of speech? But you are trying to create FUD and repeating same thing again and again. So I believe someone reported your posts.

Probably your posts have been deleting below reason;
Q: Do you moderate/delete (possible) FUD, accusations and untrue information?
A: No. We don't have enough time to check every single piece of information and verify the validity of the sources. Also, just like scams - too much room for bias and abuse.

However, trolling isn't allowed. If a user is habitually posting obviously false nonsense ("obviously false nonsense" to an outsider, NOT to someone who follows or is involved in the discussion) just to stir up trouble, then it's considered trolling, which is prohibited. Such cases should be thoroughly documented in the report though (There are tons of reports that just say "trolling", but moderators don't have time to look through each user's post).

You have the freedom to talk about bitcoins and give your point of view. You posts won't be deleted even if you have a different point of view than a majority. Everyone have the rights to say whatever they feel is right, however trolling or using abusive language is not allowed and should not be tolerated.
legendary
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hmph..
Deleted comments are not to silence users. basically all members have the same opportunity when they make comments. I have also experienced, many of my comments are deleted or reported by members. but I am not complaining about the incident. instead, I tried to fix and find the points of my mistakes in using this forum. just like you, my first year many of my posts were deleted, this does not make me discouraged in improving my post. Regarding the forum only for pumping bitcoin, you are very wrong, there are many analysis from members, they are racing to exchange ideas. they share price predictions fairly based on analysis not for bitcoin pumping on trading methods or they are using this forums and discussing topics about bitcoin bad or good at least they are giving true information
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You ain't the only one this has happened to, have been a victim of this where by it cost me to loose some bounty rewards stakes. Which all post I made wasn't in one day. I don't know if that was due to the site or probably a script the moderator was trying to test.
hero member
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Being turned into? Wasn’t the site created to spread Bitcoin awareness to the masses, or “pump” it?

I don't care what people want to say about this site. I always spread about bitcoin to new people, and if they are interested, I will introduce this site to them. Bitcoin is my life, and this place is my family.
legendary
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Lots of people believe bitcoin is scam and they are posting on this forum as well. When you will read this thread which has made on July 13, 2012 called "A Scam" then you will discover few people believed bitcoin is scam. But all comments still alive and you are able to read them. So is it not freedom of speech? But you are trying to create FUD and repeating same thing again and again. So I believe someone reported your posts.

Probably your posts have been deleting below reason;
Q: Do you moderate/delete (possible) FUD, accusations and untrue information?
A: No. We don't have enough time to check every single piece of information and verify the validity of the sources. Also, just like scams - too much room for bias and abuse.

However, trolling isn't allowed. If a user is habitually posting obviously false nonsense ("obviously false nonsense" to an outsider, NOT to someone who follows or is involved in the discussion) just to stir up trouble, then it's considered trolling, which is prohibited. Such cases should be thoroughly documented in the report though (There are tons of reports that just say "trolling", but moderators don't have time to look through each user's post).
hero member
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The 'Hard Facts' after every comment you write, is it closing line like in letters or you mean it with substance of comment?
full member
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Being turned into? Wasn’t the site created to spread Bitcoin awareness to the masses, or “pump” it?

Exactly this is what i am thinking as bitcointalk was never made to pump the bitcoin. But i wished we could pump the bitcoins  Tongue

There are many other reasons why the OP posts are being deleted, one of them being posted one after the other and secondly the posts like bitcoin will pump or bitcoin will die both comes under spamming unless you have a solid evidence to support your prediction.
legendary
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I've said plenty of negative things before about btc and never been censored for it.  No one here who understands cryptocurrency and knows their stuff overall thinks bitcoin is perfect.  People speak about flaws/issues all the time.
Exactly. If you go to the Technical Discussion or Technical Support boards there are plenty of threads discussing flaws and issues with bitcoin. The difference is that these threads have actual points made coherently and intelligent discussion, rather than just the same nonsense spam over and over about how a chronically incorrect investor who is all in on gold thinks that gold is better than bitcoin (Amazing, I know).

After all, if everyone thought that bitcoin was perfect then why do we have devs? Why do have new versions of Bitcoin Core being released? Why are people constantly working on squashing bugs and developing and building new features. Why did we need SegWit? Why do we need Lightning? Without criticism there can be no growth.

No one is reporting or deleting OP's posts because they aren't pro-bitcoin. His posts are being deleted because every post is the same low value nonsense, often made in threads which have nothing to do with gold or bitcoin price.
legendary
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I've found this website to be the best overall source of cryptocurrency learning via active dialog. The least censored, biased, controlled etc.  Yes it's made up of mostly bitcoin supporters but there's a dedicated altcoin section that's very active and I've said plenty of negative things before about btc and never been censored for it.  No one here who understands cryptocurrency and knows their stuff overall thinks bitcoin is perfect.  People speak about flaws/issues all the time. Comparatively for example- Bitcoin.com not only censors heavily, they first have to approve the comment and then have the ability to to close/delete all comments, and lock threads without any explanation ever.  Here Theymos often engages the community, and moderators speak up /answer questions /concerns more often than I've seen anywhere else.

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You are making the works of mods here much difficult the way you do your activities here. Yes, this is a free speech forum and this is why you were able to make a post and even screen shot of your deleted posts freely.

Now think of what you have done to the forum and why your posts were being deleted? That is a big question where mods will be having hard time deleting probably irrelevant post.

So next time think before you click. Your post
donator
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Being turned into? Wasn’t the site created to spread Bitcoin awareness to the masses, or “pump” it?
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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory
Doge has lots of asic backing as it merge mines with LTC

Doge is secure
Doge is fast
Doge is very low cost to send
I think of it a 1 usa Penney to 5 dollar bill

I think of LTC as  5 dollar bill to ten $100 dollar bills

BTC I think of a 10 to 30 yr  usa bond valued as 5000 usd or more.



You've put a lot of thought into this!

Doge is about as much of a joke as shrapnel too with 1p (uk) costing more to mint I assume the cent in the US is the same....
I do like how the inflationary purposes of ltc and dogs are well maintained, their chains could potentially be merged at some point too since they're both the same algorithm (I e half a block for ltc and half for doge with a different address/public key type to reduce confusion)...

BTC just being a commodity makes a lot of sense too and ltc can probably easily scale much further.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
No there are some 'hard facts' that make me think bitcoin could be in for a struggle down the road.

I see doge as far better for buying a cup of coffee as bitcoin will be.

I see bitcoin having real issues the next two  ½ ings.

But for Now I simply mine and hold.

I see bitmain as a double edge sword for BTC or any coin as they simply think of them as chips to move on the board game they are playing .
Can you elucidate a little more on how you see Bitmain's game? From your post, it seems that you are concerned, rightfully so, about adoption and ease of usage as well as the fee-market issue.

The thing about Bitmain being a double edged sword probably points to their ability to influence the mining and their interests with Ver. It 'd be great if you articulate the actual fears as we need more discussion on these things.

I think that other currencies that have some sort of central entity are busy marketing themselves while Bitcoin is basically left alone to do its own thing by its followers. Apart from a bunch of core developers, it will be hard to find anyone else still in it without the allure of commensurate personal benefit.

Earlier we used to see a lot of push towards adoption. Now most of the SM timelines are taken over by people shilling their respective alts. That really has taken away attention from adoption and usage of Bitcoin and its layer-2 developments.

Does not belong here, but if you start a topic about the danger of bitmain owning and doing all of the below

1)building gear
2)selling gear
3)cloud mining project
4)pools
5)exchange

With no oversite or  accountability of their actions.

I can explain a lot of just how bad and good they are for POW coins.





As for BTC fully turning into cash it can't happen without or due to multiple alt coins.

Doge has lots of asic backing as it merge mines with LTC

Doge is secure
Doge is fast
Doge is very low cost to send
I think of it a 1 usa Penney to 5 dollar bill

I think of LTC as  5 dollar bill to ten $100 dollar bills

BTC I think of a 10 to 30 yr  usa bond valued as 5000 usd or more.

These three coins would really work well as a money system.
The idea of BTC and nothing else simply will not scale correctly
The idea of those three coins  can be scaled fairly easily.

Doge can be capped to under 50 usd purchase in a store it will clear really quickly.

Software can convert it to cash for the store
Software can convert it to ltc for the store
Software can convert it to btc for the store
Software can convert it to any combination of the three for the store depending on the store's choices.

Since it is capped at 50 bucks of less and clear really fast the risk of double spending is next to zero.

Ltc can be a good down payment coin for a car or a home improvement job.

BTC is never going to be nimble and work no matter what any one thinks simply because you have to kill fee issue.
That kills miner interest
That means people will dump the coin and move on.

Using the three coins is a pretty easy solve.
ON paper. Roll Eyes

Thats is brief and simple on making a 'new' money system with crypto.

As for bitmain oh I can go on and on and on and on and on. About what they can and can not do with pow coins and their 5 levels of business listed above.
legendary
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The forum rules promise FREE SPEECH, but this is a LIE...  
Which of the 33 unofficial rules promises free speech exactly? Maybe you shouldn't break the ones that are listed for a start.
So you hate BitCoin and our bitcoin.org (or is it bitcointalk.org?!) forum. You are free to leave anytime you want. There is a hard fact for you.
legendary
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No there are some 'hard facts' that make me think bitcoin could be in for a struggle down the road.

I see doge as far better for buying a cup of coffee as bitcoin will be.

I see bitcoin having real issues the next two  ½ ings.

But for Now I simply mine and hold.

I see bitmain as a double edge sword for BTC or any coin as they simply think of them as chips to move on the board game they are playing .
Can you elucidate a little more on how you see Bitmain's game? From your post, it seems that you are concerned, rightfully so, about adoption and ease of usage as well as the fee-market issue.

The thing about Bitmain being a double edged sword probably points to their ability to influence the mining and their interests with Ver. It 'd be great if you articulate the actual fears as we need more discussion on these things.

I think that other currencies that have some sort of central entity are busy marketing themselves while Bitcoin is basically left alone to do its own thing by its followers. Apart from a bunch of core developers, it will be hard to find anyone else still in it without the allure of commensurate personal benefit.

Earlier we used to see a lot of push towards adoption. Now most of the SM timelines are taken over by people shilling their respective alts. That really has taken away attention from adoption and usage of Bitcoin and its layer-2 developments.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
That explains a few deletions, but NOT the majority.  I listed aobut 100, you explained away 3 of them.....

My VERY FIRST thread was deleted when it became very popular, and got a lot of community response.   They wanted to kill any discussion that does not agree with their narriative.

It is CRYSTAL CLEAR what is going on here, they are killing anything that does not pump up Bitcoin.

Hard Facts

My opinion: I actually don't mind bitcoin skeptics. In fact, I'm heavily interested in topics that addresses Bitcoin's weaknesses because I know it's also beneficial to talk about Bitcoin's shortcomings. It's just that most(if not all) your posts are Peter Schiff and Nouriel Roubini levels of hatred. You know, those I'm-right-and-you're-wrong-whatever-happens arguments that just ends up with name-calling? Yea. Pretty much zero room for constructive arguments.

BTW BTC could crash  by 2028. I have mentioned this more then once. I see long term issues with it.
Where can I get one of those magic crystal balls?

No there are some 'hard facts' that make me think bitcoin could be in for a struggle down the road.

I see doge as far better for buying a cup of coffee as bitcoin will be.

I see bitcoin having real issues the next two  ½ ings.

But for Now I simply mine and hold.

I see bitmain as a double edge sword for BTC or any coin as they simply think of them as chips to move on the board game they are playing .
legendary
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I and many others consider this forum as a place where people interested in Bitcoin gather and discuss various topics related to Bitcoin. Of course, the majority here is pro Bitcoin, but that does not mean that the community (at least the majority) will not accept negative criticism if it is based on some meaningful facts. The way you write is nothing more than a one-way hatred towards anyone who thinks positively when it comes to Bitcoin.

I personally don’t see how this forum affects the price of Bitcoin, because those who actually have an impact on the price are certainly not here and don’t read our posts. If that were the case, then the price would be much higher than it is at the moment.

I'm already on several occasions commented on your way of presenting hard facts, so I'll just give an example of how it goes with you. On May 16, 2020 you posted -> BITCOIN HALVING now a reality !!! How is that working out for everyone Huh , and on 20 June, 2020 you posted this -> How is the HALVING working out for you Huh Remember all the predictions Huh?

In the absence of hard facts you repeat the same phrases over and over again, and none of the respectable members have written for sure that halving will inflate the price until the new ATH overnight. On the contrary, we warned of the fact that the effects of halving will not feel at least in the next 6 months taking into account the past two halvings.
legendary
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copper member
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Spear the bees
He puts a bit more effort into his trollisms than some but he's just some kind of Sacha Baron Cohen-esque character.
I like trolls that use either a lot of effort, or a minimum amount of effort. To compromise and post normally with a troll-like attitude is to spit in the face of any true shitposting.

That being said, I think HardFacts is absolutely right about BITCOIN.ORG being turned into a Bitcoin pumping site! Isn't it great that the official Bitcoin page leads to an upward price movement for the coin? Absolutely amazing: it's like nobody could predict that at all.

Hang on, what's this website? Oh, bitcointalk.org? Yeah, that's one shitty-ass place!
legendary
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C'mon guys... this is obviously a troll account.

Just get a good, reputable wallet like Electrum, and deal with known companies and you will not have to worry about Scams.  With their security, I can backup my wallet on the internet and still know my BitCoins are safe.



1. Nobody is this stupid.
2. Those aren't even real seed words.

He puts a bit more effort into his trollisms than some but he's just some kind of Sacha Baron Cohen-esque character.
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