Topic: Bitcointalk.org YouTube channel? (Read 2390 times)

I noticed that this thread is quite old, but I wanted to chime in with my thoughts on the idea of a Bitcointalk.org YouTube channel. Back when this thread was active, the concept of having a dedicated channel for Bitcointalk.org seemed like a cool idea.

Those all channels you are talking about are zero base meaning the video host don't have any knowledge about bitcoin and crypto market at all and have clickbait titles to attract the audience and when you open up the video first few minutes are about channel introduction and then they only promote some shitcoins under paid influence and all that crap content.

But the forum already has a youtube channel BitcointalkShow if you could check the above post and lot of discussions have been made about the same but there is no update from few months.

The other youtubers are only paid shillers who are manipulating the viewers under cash grab scheme and then people loose money after following their advice.But the forum channel was producing quality content with variation and liked by many so still hope for next videos.

There are many channels with Bitcoin cryptocurrency but it would be nice to have all the information from Bitcointalk.


The development of Bitcoin, future plans and the role of Bitcoin in the global economic system, will be more beautiful if all these aspects can be expressed in a beautiful way.

We all been waiting for the next videos to be uploaded on the channel but still no signs from the @cyrus and the team but if you see the channel was doing good in sharing some information with the audience.We as members know many facts but the general audience who is unaware about it could get aroused by the videos to explore the forum was main idea behind it.But from long time there is no vidoe and this was last video

So if you want to explore the further discussions visit the thread for which the link has been posted above.

Yes, I have seen that topic on top and it reminded me about that youtube channel. Last update - 4 months ago ;-(
Any plans to resurrect that idea? It did not bring any special information, but it was funny to see The Forum from the other perspective.

looks like you are late to the news. they already created a youtube account for bitcointalk, if you are interested here's the official bitcointalk Youtube account BitcoinTalkShow I suggest subscribing to it. you can also check this board for updates on their channel. sadly they haven't posted a new video in months.

Then what's the difference between the cheeky smiles youtubers promoting shitcoins on their YouTube channel to make the viewers fool and the forum channel if they both will promote some zero utility altcoins on the channel? The forum channel should focus more on forum related stuff and provide some useful bitcoin information not an trading signal for the investors so this is not going to work.There are already many good ideas shared by members but this is not one of them saying frankly.The bounty is not an topic to be promoted as this is one of the way you can earn through forum but bounty hunters usually don't contribute to forum and have no intention of learning and channel should avoid these things.

Does it feel like Bitcointalk, Cyrus, theymos, and many of the mods care much about altcoins to the point to make YouTube videos about them? 95% (maybe even more) of all bounty campaigns are scams. Users will either not get paid, they will receive worthless tokens that will never amount to anything or be listed anywhere, or they will get less than what was agreed. Even the developers of such campaigns don't believe in their projects and view them as schemes to get rich by taking BTC, ETH, and other valuable coins from gullible investors, and dumping their tokens on the market.       

No offense but those are pretty terrible video ideas and probably wouldn't hold viewer interest for more than a month or two. I mean just look at my/our site articles about the subject.

I think it would be good to have a news topic about investing, for example:
10 best alt coins worth investing in or 5 current bounty with a good reputation.

If you go to this thread Bitcointalk Youtube channel - what would you like to see? you will see that the other administrator @Cyrus is already making such a channel so you should reach out to him if you want to help out with content creation.

Hi theymos.

I just came across this thread and its very nice idea. I am interested in writing some content for this channel.
This thread is not active for long time. Can you tell me are you still creating YouTube channel for bitcointalk.org?

Thanks

This is a non-video forum so I'm just wondering what would be on the tube, is it going to be written articles on slides? I really don't understand why we are having YouTube Chanel.

The primary untold story behind this proposed channel could be for advertising purposes and if that's the case what happens to signature campaigns.

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With such youtube channel and ongoing classes it will definitly benifit all the users and customers graphically and customers will get clarification about  their doubts so that the BTC will be usefull to that users I will also be waiting for this channel for fully functioning.And What I think is the countries which are not yet in favour of BTC may change their decision.
But finally i say this idea is the best in such idea.

Well, someone had suggested a telegram channel before and it got shot down. And oh, there is a discord server, but that server isn't doing it too well either(am not seeing enough movement here)

I definitely feel the courses would help SO many people, if done right. Idiots like me, who are too lazy and never bothered to learn cool stuff could always learn from those courses. If only something is done about it .


 

Just like anything, this is likely through the user making a mistake by downloading something they do not trust, or by getting social engineered. There's definitely a pretty solid way to protect against this, but it depends on the individual. Someone could even use a virtual machine or dedicated machine if they really wanted to protect against this. A bitcointalk channel would likely be targeted due to the precieved power it has, and what another user could do to pretend to be the channel, but  unless youtube is compromised itself, this should be fairly simple to protect against if you follow strict guidelines on what you are viewing, downloading, and who you're giving your credentials too (ideally no one). As stated above, I do believe a "channel manager" or whatever can be added to manage the channel without having to many permissions, and not logging in via the credentials of the main user.

Youtubers run on a system where they'll use an account manager or their editor to upload content after they've viewed it and will coown it with them - this is the root of these attacks imo. If you make a YouTube account/channel from a Google plus account I think you'll get a warning on your phone if it's hacked.


Looks interesting: I remember icq was quite widely used for other things too so I thought I'd ask. I'll try joining that if I work out how to use two different accounts in one app.

Time to talk about security and risks.
Does the youtube account owner allow adding any extra security besides what youtube itself has provided? I mean this is about hacking, I have several times here found cases about accounts with many subscribers having been hacked and used as a giveaway media like this:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/big-scam-scammers-are-stealing-btc-through-youtube-5247959
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-paid-crypto-giveaway-ads-on-youtube-be-aware-5261574
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-giveaway-scam-on-youtube-5244324

We already have a discord server, official one created by Cyrus with the approval of theymos but again, it's not that popular among the users here. Only few of us are using it. It was meant to be only for the halving but it was so fun so Cyrus decided to keep it. There are different channels and also suggestions and voting for new ones so I don't think we need something more on that front.

The forum could spend somehow a little bit of money for the said project. I think it could only take little expenses for just the compilation from.the users contribution on the said project. It can't that much since the forum has some money for it to happen. Aside from that I think it would be also good to make an event here in the forum as to get more good vibes in the forum. As what satoshi did when he was able to give his parts of his btc as rewards.

Anyway, hope to see positive outcome of this idea from theymos.

A udemy course? That sound strange but potentially interesting of an idea. I'd much rather list stuff where people have to pay via watching an ad as I doubt many people would pay for a udemy course?

I had a thought about doing something with YouTube and the most notable posts voting a while back, I don't know what happened to the list though? I think steamtyme also did well with his videos so we'd have to ensure we didn't conflict.

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As someone who's biased towards ltc (and no one else likes ltc) I'm happy to look over content produced to check it for bias (I assume my bullishness on btc won't interfere with that too much either).

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Perhaps the reason things aren't being done is potentially down to people not knowing where to look.
We might get away with adding a thread in new forum software on active developments going on surrounding the forum (the potential ecpensipn into YouTube if it's done and how to test the new forum software).

Would anyone be interested in a forum telegram channel and potentially group chat? No idea how I'd ensure not getting a bunch of random reputation flags if I made one but as a spin off project I don't think it sounds an awful idea?

While I agree with you that things here usually happen, when someone else makes the effort to improvise things around here, I feel like regarding this topic,  people can't do much. This place will become a portfolio submitting messhole, if people were to work for anything(be it their youtube "career", or teaching skills for udemy etc).

If bitcointalk is to have a youtube channel ever, the admins should at least give out some info on how they want the whole thing to be executed, and also privately start messaging users whom the admins trust, and get things rolling. Otherwise, I am afraid nothing much is going to happen

At least if not a youtube channel, and a udemy course, the new forum should have sub-forums where only certain people are allowed to post/review the content, and those sub forums could have all sorts of courses, and videos. That'd be pretty dope, if you ask me.

Now I'm a bit sceptical about Bitcointalk Youtube channel idea. Maybe some guides, like @Steamtyme had made, would be useful. But I doubt that many newbies would be interested in it. Because personally, I never looked for a video how to use online forum.
And things like theymos said "summaries of recent high-quality" posts sound a bit boring. There is lot of things needed to do to make such content attractive. Because you can't get much views with recorded screen and some posts shown in it. It can get just few hundreds views. To make such videos more attractive additional things would be needed like images images or short videos from other resources. So, to make really good content on Bitcointalk Youtube channel, work of professional Youtuber would be needed.

He has no time for this, that's why he posted it as an idea with a question and that's why the community have to gather and point out some candidates for the task. People who are really into what is going on in the forum and want to do it.
One thing I've learned here in the forum, if you want some nice things to happen, you have to work for it, they are not just dropped by theymos as gift, we as a community have to do something to make it happen. We can't just wait and say "Theymos do this, theymos do that". His name maybe sounds like a god's one but he is a human as we are (except for LoyceV, we all know he is an AI) and seems like one really busy human being.
If we don't gather, find people who want to participate and finally present them to him for approval, it won't happen. It is exactly the same situation with EpochTalk. If we want it, we have to test it first and report the bugs, and when all is done, then we will get it.

Drama is bound to happen, no matter who is chosen. Internet is just full of drama, pedophiles and memes and oh, cryptohunter(is he still here idek). SOO, you can't stop the inevitable. I guess what we could do is, have a reality check, and understand the concept of "It iz what it iz".


Yes PLEASE theymos see this! Let's do something really cool, get in the whole courses idea sorted out and upload it on udemy, have a youtube profile for bitcoin/bitcointalk related stuff. AND A TWITTER for roasting roger ver and for the memes, duh!

save 2020 pls.

Theymos designating people for this should be mandatory for that channel in my opinion. Certain communities (*cough* BCH/BSV) will attempt to create drama around it and they're already uploading video attacks against him so people who won't fan the flames need to be chosen for this.

That statement was made nearly 2 years ago, wonder if he still has the passion to start it.

It will be quite useful for the newbies, most of the existing contents on youtube related bitcointalk are not high quality contents and moreover the voice of the videos were created using text to speech tools so it is important to have high quality proper English videos on youtube to get more engagement to bitcointalk and people who really need crypto related information can find them as well if we have an official bitcointalk channel.

There's plenty of bitcoin related content on YouTube already. I think one related to the forum could be helpful, especially to Newbies. Helpful how-to videos much like the guides we already have but in video form. I'm still hoping the Newbie Welcome Message will get implemented at some point but we could include a video link there as well if someone did a video on how to get started here. Maybe there could be some cash prizes awarded for the best ones created or maybe merit dished out instead.

A bitcoin channel would probably do better - but if Theymos wants to fund a bitcointalk channel, more power to him!

I was lukewarm to the idea when it was first proposed, but I'm glad this thread got bumped.  This is one of those ideas that ended up fizzling out for whatever reason, and I do think it would be a neat idea if bitcointalk had a Youtube channel.

That's a cool idea--I'm sure this forum has some veteran members who also have extensive experience in everything it would take to pull off a YT channel.  I wish I could contribute in some way, but I'm neither interesting nor talented as far as content creation goes.  Hopefully Theymos will see this and chime in.

There would need to be a filtering mechanism for contributions. You don't want far correct ( sorry I mean far right) people like me creating content for example.

I'm damn sure users here will subscribe to the channel. I searched and browse some channels related to bitcointalk because lots of users upload just about anything like an introduction to bitcointalk.org and how to make copper member and so forth. But these channels are not official.

Would it be a disadvantage to the youtube channel if some bitcointalk users will bring the accusations and discussions there in the youtube comments?

Yes please, can we make this a thing, theymos could choose 4-5 people to manage, edit, and create content on the youtube channel. And they could have special status/badges here on the forum too. I remember steamtyme did something of the sort(link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54202158), so maybe he can also help contribute towards this?

@theymos any updates on this please?

Any progress on this one??

Yeah that might be cool because we have different intelligences like most of us are visual and only few would like to read that is why most of the users forgetting about reading the forum rules that will be resulted on getting ban. So of video would be presented then those violations that are repeatedly done would be minimize. I have found youtube video that talks about how the forum created and why merit system was implemented but has only few views.

Oh didn't know if such an amazing idea was here for review. If we look it commercially, I think it won't be very successful, theymos since you mentioned that you are ready for funding project, then great, it will earn small to reduce that additional funding. But will that format be interesting? Don't take it as an advertisement but I think cointelegraph is doing that job pretty well, both on their website and on youtube. I think from you that will be a little bit waste of resources? Maybe.... Don't know but generally idea is very positive and great.

Great proposal. This would probably gain more traction, if moved to Serious discussion or Ivory Tower.

I'm pretty sure there are many famous youtubers posting here already (Davinci comes to mind for exemple).
Why not ask some of them to produce videos in the name of the forum every once in a while ?
It would insure quality, probably more than if you hire just one guy.

Yap it is great idea to crate a bitcointalk.org youtube channel. If there there is a bitcointalk.org youtube channel then it will be very useful for everyone. All will be able to know updated news by youtube channel. Through video everyone can understand the forum better. It will be very useful for new members.

What you need to do for video creation can be provided from this forum. Because there are many video editing experts in this forum. We are all ready to help you for creating a youtube channel. Hope you can quickly create a youtube channel.

Best regards
Coin-Desk

Probably yes because of the sudden changes in the forum ,most of of the people are losing interest esp because of those oligarchy who are trying to control this forum.I dont blame theymos but he should be putting the right people and remove those abusive piece of shit here.DT list should be graded monthly,collect feedbacks from the people so that those abusive will be remove.

A YouTube channel for the forum which would be dedicated to providing vital information on the world of cryptocurrencies is a laudable idea. Some of the topics discussed here especially those related to mining and the blockchain network are really technical, videos can help make things simpler. We are more than two million members on this forum so imagine even half of us get to subscribe to the channel, it would be really interactive with the video presence.

It’s still open for discussion. The thread just died, it happens. Post whatever you want (within reason and the confines of the rules).

Is this idea dead & abandoned or we can think further on it?

I also have the same opinion with him. But I have more positive thoughts.
The idea of creating a youtube channel is pretty good.
We can use the youtube channel as a form of advertising for the forum and bitcoin to the community know more than.
Here we can provide the latest news about Bitcoin as well as knowledge of Blockchain.

Or makes good business/traffic sense. Most men are simple creatures and are far more likely to click on a video if there's a woman in the thumbnail. I'm not saying it should be a woman and don't care either way, but just stating facts and I don't think it has anything to do with being PC or a SJW, arguably even the opposite if it is done just for clicks/views. I think a better option would be to have a mix of all genders including those who identify as non-binary gender-queer pansexuals and attack helicopters.


It can be easily solved, but not without action from theymos which is the hard part. All of these are things that have been suggested before, and theymos even agreed to signature blacklisting problem campaigns but it just never happened (likely due to him not having time to look into these things). I still think we should tackle those issues first before any youtube channel is started.

I'm interested to be part of this project.

I agree, it sounds like a great idea because Youtube is the main social network if we talk about real traffic. In the past year I developed some nice video editing skills, so, that could be my contribution to the project, I even can make one of those nice 3D intros for the videos.

Tell me more about what do you have in mind, you want it like a tv program with sections? or short videos about a single topic?

By the way, I was thinking about one representant of each language, at least all languages from Local forum sections. I would be proud to make this for the Spanish section, I have a good camera presence and can make the translation from the English videos to Spanish.

So, if you decide to do it, i'm in!

Youtube is an excellent way to get new users. There's billions of people in Youtube that would never bother finding the forum by themselves on Google. In a way Youtube is the new Google, a lot of people just search on the Youtube bar and consume audiovisual content and cannot be bothered with Google anymore.

Im sure that if more people knew this is the original forum and satoshi posted here, they would become really interested. It's a good selling point, I would definitely market that to get people into my forum, no other site can claim that.

Also being aware that you can earn some satoshis posting is also a good selling point, and they will have an incentive to do good since as you ascend your account you can get selected for better bounties, I don't see anything wrong with marketing that side too. If you don't do it then Roger Ver will do it and get all the traffic into his forum.

But I would definitely prioritize on account recovery setup and help everyone recover their accounts above the Youtube channel project.

Btw; I would also like to see more usage of the Twitter account, a lot of times the site is not usable, it would be cool to know what is going on.

I have thought of something, and I remembered this thread. There are people in my country who are conducting different types of training and seminars, and of course, charging money with it, and they are giving the essential thing about Bitcoin, and in general, that's what the purpose of the event. I have met some people, and they don't even know bitcointalk. I know this is one of the most informational places to know what bitcoins are or technically everything related to cryptocurrency.

Is having an account here make you credible enough? The experience and activeness here could explain a lot and increase their credibility. Like putting on skills and achievements in a resume, adding the "account level" or something. How they interact with this community.

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Well, I guess it could just be the start, like a super short video clip probably. I'm not really sure, but it could act as an orientation of some sort. Probably advertising about Bitcoin and making bitcointalk the central capital of information about cryptocurrencies, etc.

Although, creating a video for the rules would be a decent idea, and could be implemented along with the registration message. Its not something that a lot of people will be that interested in. Bitcoin news, and other things are just going to get more people coming to the forum. Whereas the rules are for existing users or users already looking to sign up. Its a good idea yeah, but not for the angle theymos seems to be looking at, and thats driving more people to the forum.

I'm hoping new members are not required to subscribe bitcointalk.org youtube channel as a pre-requirement of registration if theymos start a youtube channel
These days every YouTubers asked to click the notification button

Agreed with both hands and diversification is good but when we are going to do so many experiments wouldn't yield maximum benefits in any of the trials. 

I'd love to see a channel made by theymos. It would be called ask theymos and people would be able to post questions in a forum thread that would be then read aloud by our one and only and answered on camera. Voice only would do, like they do in some podcasts. I can already tell you that this would have ten times the popularity of that proposed post summary.

I don't think our forum needs those few bucks from the Youtube which is annoying thing for many users to see the ads in between and at the beginning of video,the youtube channel should not be monetized this will distract the users from the content of the video.

If theymos already planned to create channel for bitcointalk then the content creator must be highly skilled with much experience in the Youtube channel and also need to have good camera,editing and speaking skills.

if you suggest the idea of ​​making a youtube channel is certainly very good, but you have to re-clean this forum, because I see a lot of things that make spam, there are even some that make multi accounts, useful for making people believe in the forum.

Good idea. But, I believe, rather than relying on a single content creator, it would be better to crowd-source such content. I mean to say, multiple groups will create content and submit on a BitcoinTalk thread each week. The most merited one will be chosen and broadcast on Bitcointalk.org YouTube channel. Content creator of the winner may be rewarded by BitcoinTalk fund.

Yes it should be but when the channel reaches 1000 subscribers with 4000 watch hours it will help the forum when it comes to funds. YouTube will pay if the channel get monetised and it is very possible because the channel is about the biggest bitcoin forum existing. Only few forum funds will be spend I guess. When the Bitcointalk.or YouTube Channel monetised it help the forum or the forum will get funds from YouTube.

To do this, you need script writers and operators. It will also require mounting and  and presenter. The channel will be easily promoted, as the forum has an audience

It would be cool if on this channel (or create several channels) there were news or information was duplicated in several languages. For example, in Chinese and Russian.

Can't say better than you. @theymos, you simply rejected many ideas how to improve forum and solve existing problems without stating any reasons why it's not a good idea and now you're just planning to create new project?
You can give some of forum money to creator of video, but why you can't hire full-time dev to work on new forum software for example or appoint more mods?
Maybe it's not bad idea to start Bitcointalk Youtube channel (well, it sounds strange - Youtube channel of forum), but not right now. Starting a new projects when we have so many problems sounds stupid. I think things like Youtube channel, reporter badges and other possible fancy additions to Bitcointalk are not really neccessary right now. All these problems like spamming, copy pasting, ann bumping, recovery of hacked accounts should be solved first of all.

Although I think it is a good idea overall, but I totally agree with the people that are saying that it should not be a priority right now.
Seeing the current situation of the forum, I don't think it would be good to convert your complete focus to something else other than the present problems that need time and work. Leaving a job that needs more work and taking up another task in your hands seems utterly unprofessional to me.

Currently, we don't really need more good new users, but we need to get rid of the bad old users.

This is an idea that requires full support, I have several ways I want to give before making a yuotube video, this tutorial:

     The white car in front and followed by the other car behind beside the left and right ravine if we are proficient in the driving is definitely safe, well if we are not good at driving it must be the waiting gap ...... ??

Optimize Youtube video metadata

Here are the things that you can do Bitcointalk:
Video file name:
1. Use the most important keywords from the Bitcointalk Member video as file names.
2. Title (title): is the most dominant and most visible fact of the Bitcointalk Member video.
3. Description: Explain as clearly as possible about the video in the first paragraph.
4. Tag: Include relevant and accurate tags
5. Thumbnail: thumbnail is the second most important factor, which determines whether a Bitcointalk Member video is clicked or not
6. Annotations: Annotations are floating text that can add Bitcontalk to Bitcointalk Member videos.

This is a very good example, good luck ...

Now that you said it, I am going to report you and get you banned for shitposting/plagiarism.

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Youtube videos can be monetized, so contributors can get a part of it, or a pre-deal can be set,if this idea ever goes beyond just "discussion". It'd help a lot if videos are embeded on this forum and like,high ranked members could only have the ability to do that.

All this could be easily solved. I suggested one: Instead of removing signatures, blacklist the signatures of shitposters. Give certain mods the ability to whitelist/blacklist signatures(thoughts?). That'd ruin their lives. They'd come back,yes, but if high ranked shitposters can't earn shit, then we'd only have to deal with lower ranked members. And this might warn the new ranked members.


Also no one is even warned of anything or even aware of rules. Hell the rules aren't even "official". Oh, and the help page is so outdated.

theymos wake up! These YouTube channel could be taken care later, first please just solve the issues that needs to be addressed. BTW, where is cyrus?

No. Please not Doug, I don't hate him or something(I don't know him either), but some one else needs to do this youtube thing(please don't hire slickage for this too). You don't want to see threads like when is the youtube channel releasing,lol.

Why?  That seems like an extremely PC, SJW thing to request given that the whole crypto space seems to be dominated by males.  Certainly bitcointalk is, though there's a level of anonymity here that kind of precludes hard data on that.  I am in no way against women, but it would seem very odd to have a female presenter, not to mention the fact that you're discriminating against males doing the job.

Add one more to that list, since I completely agree the forum needs to shape up.  It doesn't even need advertising to attract members, though I do think having a channel isn't a bad idea.

YouTube is a good idea, but not for development.
The YouTube channel may attract new users, but given the current system of ranks, you will lose users.
You have a very large forum and the largest community. All projects are already placed here.
You can create any system on the basis of the forum:social network, crypto Bank, any services for ICO.
It is important that the user can do what he likes and earn money in an honest way, and not engaged in shitposting and selling accounts.

Can i just say: "I completely agree"?

I like the idea of a high quality Youtube channel made by Bitcointalk as a community, but I don't think it should be a priority at this point. I'm much more in favour of improving the forum before starting other activities. I've even adjusted my Personal Text for it.

Youtube is more or less "the standard" by now. It easily takes care of everything, at the cost of bothering users with full screen unskippable commercials.

This can't be emphasized enough!

This forum gives users freedom to say what they want, even if someone's opinion isn't popular or even repulsive. And I barely see any complaints about that.
Spam on the other hand should just not be tolerated, especially if the spammers earn good money from destroying this forum. It's an industry now: I'm pretty sure the homograph bump bots for example are controlled by only one person/team. On some days, they create about 500+ posts, on other days there's nothing. That has nothing to do with freedom, it's spam for financial gain.

We all know that almost everything is already in YouTube. Probably some parts of it are talking about BTT, how they make money of having and account etc. Probably the best thing in my opinion is to make a video about the rules and have an official video to help and understand what to do and not to do, although it’s pretty obvious already but you know that some users are lazy to read. (Sometimes it’s me also)

Cool, how to ensure the objectivity of the given information? Who will control this Youtube channel?

The idea is great in general, but it has a lot of things to be prepared for the idea to be succeed, like :
1. Who will run the channel? If you run it yourself, you will need a lot of time Theymos.
2. Who will be the judge on "quality posts" to be showed up on the channel? It is a hard task because it is definitely a subjective task.
3. Reward system for  content creator (optional)
4. Are we prepared enough for the next generation of spammers which might be attracted by the channel?

Andreas Antonopoulos has his talks and Q&As on YT and they seem to be attractive and up to date. You want something like that? IMO, he's a great candidate to be the forum's representative.

Honestly, can't see that having a significant impact in terms of attracting new users but since this forum is some sort of information hub (in crypto world), the focus should be on video tutorials and such...
- This:

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It feels weird to see "BTCitcointalk.org channel" having content other than BTCitcoin stuff (even if it's summarized).
- Regardless of having a "Alternate cryptocurrencies" board on this forum.

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Yes, but needs some finishing touches...

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I can help with video editing but I kinda like what "hilariousandco" suggested (minus the reward in merits):


Having said that, I agree with what most users posted (this shouldn't be a priority while there are a lot of other issues in the first place).

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That's not the only objective:

Creating a Youtube channel is a brilliant idea as it is going to introduce Bitcointalk to a new audience.

Managing a youtube channel representing a huge community such as our communty, require alot of deducation and commitment, thus, it should be managed by a whole team and there should be a supervisor (maybe Theymos) to approve which content should be published since (again) it is gonna be the official Bitcointalk channel and there should be no chance to publish any misleading information especially in videos discussing crypto news.

Though, I think there is more work to do on the forum to reduce the number of spam posters and abusers (among many other things to do) before attracting new users.

No.

Who will decide which posts are "Youtube-worthy"?
How will those posts be presented?
A simple reading of most merited posts obviously won't do.

In the end, it will boil down to some random guy being appointed by (most probably) you, who will produce his own Youtube channel with his own favorite agenda and content under the label of bitcointalk.
Is that really what you want?

YouTube seems to be on the skids at the moment, they are demonetising, de-indexing, and even banning some of the interesting content providers who don't toe the globlist line, I looked at  Steemit as an alternative, but I'm still not convinced that that isn't a sophisticated ponzi. It seems you have to  pay to get your posts ranked there. Dtube was starting to get some traction,but I haven't looked at that for a few months.

I'm another one who thinks that it would be better to sanitise the forum before trying to attract more members.

I kind of like the idea, especially if it includes helpful video guides and explanations of the rules or standards here. We could even link to them or show a welcome video in the 'Newbie Welcome Message' I proposed here. Maybe watching the video is a requirement for all new users. Would be quite easy to get people to do subtitles for different languages as well. I'm sure we could get some user generated content and if they're good enough they can be uploaded to the main channel. Their reward could be in things like merit, or as you mentioned in cash if they're of a very high standard (and I'm sure they would also receive merit in addition). Maybe there could be a special badge for great video content creators as well.


I don't think you would need someone to front it and it could be done just with a professional voice over, though it would look more professional in the former. There are people on websites like Fiver that will do both this sort of content for you and for very cheaply, but I'm sure we could also find people from here via the Marketplace.


Are we struggling for traffic or something?  


Theymos (or some other staff member) could be in charge of the account and would get the final say on what is uploaded there. We could request user generated content and the best stuff could be uploaded there.


Agreed. I think we should be trying to get on top of the spam and lack of action regarding the multiple issues here (ICO sig spam, shitposting farming, lack of mods/admins and redistributing workload, accounts not getting recovered etc.) before anything else.


I like Doug and he's certainly entertaining, but not sure sure if he'd want to dedicate time to someone else's channel. I don't think he's low on money either so not sure how much he'd want to be paid to do so .

I agree that now it would be worthwhile to focus on improving the forum, rather than attracting new users, especially since there are no issues with the flow of new participants, but the problems with the quality of their content definitely exist. In addition, if you need to find enthusiastic participants who will not only do their job well, but also deserve your trust to implement your idea with a YouTube channel, then to implement a number of projects that have been repeatedly proposed in the Meta branch, you already de facto have a team consisting of conscious members of the forum who want to put things in order and make bitcointalk better. I think it would be more reasonable to focus on the qualitative changes within the forum itself, as there are problems and they need a solution. And most importantly, there are experienced people who are ready to help you in this already now.

Obviously idea is cool. There could describe about forum rules and guidelines. But for regular update you need 3/4 additional staff. Another is who will own the channel ?

I don't know how many forum members will watch the channel. You can see on meta, how many people's are active here. To be honest 90% user are bounty hunters and they are busy with it. They don't have much time to perticipate forum discussion and I don't think so they will watch also channel. Increase new members means increase spammers by the way.

In my opinion motivate extisting users to avoid spam is more important rather than encourage more new people to join. Existing users also can be assets.

To be honest, I am agree with it to create YouTube channel. But in last few months there is lot of suggestion came out from members to build a decent forum. Especially add new moderators and recover accounts. Support existing users and reduce spammer is more important to encourage new user.

That's a great idea but you will need a team to do that. A few people to support you video recording and editing.  Or you can aggregate content and livestream. It will be really attractive

It's a great idea. I used to be a youtube semi-creator and I think I can expand your idea on this:
Preparation:
- A channel watermark: to protect property rights and make our content unique, noticeable. This should be a transparent (no background) png file. Forums has a lot of good designers, we can make a poll like this reporter badge thread to select one.
- Channel intro, outtro: less inportant than watermark but this makes our channel more professional.

Content:
All the precious knowledge & information in the forum can be transformed into video.
- Weekly news update: bitcoin or crypto news in a week, under a neutral point of view.
- Bitcointalk specialty release: this can be a long-term serie, availalbe at nowhere but Bitcointalk. We can talk about bitcoin's history, famous cryptocurrencies' teachnical specifications... I followed a lot of Youtube channels but there's no channel talking about this in depth.
- Fun fact: Another BTT specialty. This kind of short video refers to satoshi, HODL, Mtgox... (maybe all stuff found in this thread)

Video making software: Adobe Premiere or Sony Vegas are preferable, Adobe After Effect for high end graphics.


There're various types of video and at the first stage, it's unnecessary to have a kind of interact video and hence we're not in need of a presentation woman.

I think that's a very interesting idea. But Your first attitude should be to appoint two other people to a board.

This board would have the person primarily responsible for the project, plus you and another third person who is well known in the Bitcoin community. One of the big problems in any news site and youtube channel relate to cryptocurrencies, is the constant conflict between the editorial line and the commercial opportunities.

Another request is that the channel could comment on issues beyond Bitcoin but involving crypto, internet security and altcoins. The third request is to do everything to try to find a woman to be responsible for the project or at least for the presentation.

I thought that we might find solutions to the current problems before we bring new "good" members as they gonna stay here for a short time and flee, when they see the forum clogged with all this shitposting.

I like the idea in general, but finding someone or group of people it won't be easy task.
All applicants should present a portfolio with previous works to meet the requirements.

I have a few cameras prefer for the job, like Canon 70D, with Sigma art 24-105mm lens, as I'm / well, I was/ a hobby photographer.  I could do the recording but I I'm not good at being on camera

Shall we have some format for the applications??

I think there are more pressing matters on the forum. Most of all, I don't think the forum is in a "presentable" state for youtube or anywhere really. Anyone who watches the videos will be like "Let me check this out" and see the countless pages of "sir" "sir" "please sir" "thank you sir" "remove negative trust sir" "I'm bounty hunter sir". If you think it can't get any worse, well think again. I really believe in this community and the quality members are truly great, but until we rid ourselves of these shitposters, promoting the forum to the wider masses is like shooting ourselves in the foot. You don't get a second first impression. Just my two cents.

I like this idea.  It feels like it would give the forum the opportunity to once again highlight useful information. The bonus being it wouldn't be drowned out by low quality useless information. ( More so than youtube already is)


Any news that follows this format is a benefit and a plus IMO.

More potential content:
Q &A's with members who are interested.(anonymity optional)
History lesson - collectibles, notable events.

My one question without being a judge in what is or is not a scam attempt. Would this channel be open to bitcoin safe practices, and how to avoid being scammed. This would fall under a newbie welcome of sorts and go beyond the typical "protect your private keys".

Tying into the courses idea with the youtube channel would be a decent idea. I don't know whether a summary of good quality posts would be that beneficial, and something people would watch. Maybe, I don't know. Latest news could be something to go by. What would of been cool is a changelog, and video diary of the development of the new forum software.

Anyway, another grand idea. Who's gong to run it though?

Maybe dont include on youtube channel about making money here on bitcointalk this may lead to newbies get along here and make themselves as a spammers.

I agree with this, maybe this move is better than a youtube channel to clean the forum while its early.

It’s a kind of move that could go in any direction as a result. We’re used to seeing how corporate, brand and personal videos are dissected by others on a daily basis, so that is a lateral risk to consider. Above that, a faceless text entity such as Bitcointalk would be represented by someone on camera, so despite the boldness of the move, the visual image of Bitcointalk needs to be chosen really well. I don’t think mercenary utubers would be a good option at all for example.

Weekly content would likely be necessary, and that does not come cheap and would require quite some dedication both from the production side and the management side.

Note: I’m not sure about the legality constrains on creating videos based on forum content. Even with good faith, you’ll find people who will go out of their depth for some extra bucks.

Maybe Theymos wants to keep the forum more libertarian and wild west anarchic than what a lot of people calling for, quite authoritarian action at times..

He just made a huge move with the merit system, which is done in quite a good distributed way in my opinion, and hasn't even taken full effect yet.
Maybe he doesn't want to hand people more ultimate authoritarian power over others, such as powerful mods to wield their banhammers at their discretion, like many are calling for..

Benjamin Franklin, "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Yeah I copy and pasted that don't ban me..

Yeah their is a subset of members that hang out around meta, most with the best of intentions.. They all have the merits and DT trust and mod power and all the goodies..
They are trying to do good but not everyone completely believes in the same principles that they do, the ways of going about things..

It is pretty obvious to me that Theymos is trying to give the power to the community in a distributed manner through the trust system and now merit system.. It might not be perfect but nothing is perfect..


Theymos, being an OG crypto cypherpunk kind of guy, it occurs to me that he likely has some different ideals than those trying to find solutions to the problems via power and control..

Given the number of threads in Meta over the last few days/weeks/months complaining about the state of the forum, the ridiculous levels of bounty spam, asking for more mods and suggesting about 100 other ideas for improvement, would it not be wise to focus on the forum first before taking on a new project?

A YouTube channel would be nice and great for advert and Info from the Forum.

But that would bring a lot of work too for the people there are doing that , sure i guess there are a lot of Youtuber in the Forum here they would doing  that!

My personal opinion about it is a good idea, but I believe the other things in the forum might be more important
- Spam / Bots / Bot Accounts
- Registration for new users (possibly to do something against bots)
- Maybe more mods to support the current mods
- Recover hacked accounts if that's true

A clean, pleasant forum I think would help many users to feel comfortable!

But that is just my personal opinion

The idea is good. However only educational content should be used, in my opinion. Otherwise, the channel could face criticism for biased contents. Also, don't forget that Youtube isn't a platform you have a full control over it, you can expect to see someone trying to hijack the channel.

If you're really interested with video content for the community, why not host it yourself with the forum ( a subdomain for example or a video board here)

As for the funds, why not make it based on volunteering. If someone is interested to make videos for the community it should make it without any incentive.

To do something like that i would rather use vimeo. It's just a better and professional platform for everything that concern company and organizations.

They have also completely different kind of audiences, perhaps the right one for what you are trying to make

It works for 4chan and that places is a cesspool no better than bitcointalk..
Not an official channel that I know of but a lot of videos about what goes on there..

I think spammers come from people searching how to make money online..
People searching for bitcoin on youtube may not all be the type to spend countless hours spamming and chasing bounties for a few satoshis. They likely have lives, atleast somewhat, and would mostly reach English speakers..

I think it would be great along with a strong welcome message including a disclaimer of the pitfalls and perils real "interested in bitcoin" newbs could face here..


Answering questions about how to use bitcoin, how bitcoin works, how to follow your transactions in a block explorer, stuff like that, is a whole lot better than all the questions about how to get merit so they can make more money spamming, questions about bounties and "earning" etc..

That's the big challenge IMO.  It will take a lot more than 1 right individual.

I think it would be pretty awesome to have a BTCT channel but it would be a significant job for even 3-4 people to do a weekly vid.  I think fresh content is pretty important.

Covering such a wide topic as this forum is going to be a lot of work, a lot of "data" to manually sift through to get relevant topics to discuss.

How long of a video do you envision? 10 mins a week, 30, 60?
Are you thinking just like a news cast style or something more organic and fun?

I've been talking to a lot of crypto tubers recently and they are all hungry for work and set up to do this type of thing perhaps a weekly budget for someone already doing this might be a consideration?

On a side note would you consider a sub board somewhere for YouTuber discussion.  There are thousands of crypto tubers and a board where we could discuss our favourite YouTubers and their content would be cool.

If you're looking for an established youtuber, Doug Polk Crypto is the perfect guy you're looking for, IMO.

He occasionally features the forum on some of his videos, and they are quite entertaining. From having a good camera presence to video editing and script writing, he has it all.

BTW, I hope that bitcointalk twitter will also be more active once you established a youtube channel.

People search youtube to find something about joining bounty campaigns (and spamming the hell out of the forum, just to increase activity...)
There are already several youtubers who do this as a daily job, they make good money with it. They won't be happy to have an official youtube channel for the forum... I hope they won't downvote the official videos, just to make it harder for the competitor channel to start...
Of course, it would be an advantage for the new youtube channel that it's the official channel, so it would be more trustable, reliable, etc... But because it's an official channel, you should be really cautious with the content... Existing youtubers' videos are sometimes seems like a bit clickbait for me (although it works for them), but an official channel can't do that, so it have to be a bit less interesting and more technical/official/etc...
But why not to give it a try? We'll see...

After all these days it is a bit clear that theymos cares to bring more users (good) in the forum. Anyway, don't you think it will bring you more work where you are already having problems to handle the workload for you and the mods?

You already have a long list (besides accounting) to consider which the members are trying to push you to implement/add/edit. On top of all these, if you bring up another direction then I wonder which one will you take care of? There are several tasks are still pending (may be you are not considering) which could take few minutes to set up and eventually save a lot of time for mods and other members. i.e: a lot of them are here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/community-generated-suggestions-to-improve-the-forum-eventual-voting-on-them-4893744

By the way, having a YouTube channel will be a good idea.

My thoughts exactly!

We'd have to get someone trusted enough to do it who isn't an eth enthusiast (they just push and push and push it onto you)...

I'd suggest leaving out speculation altogether. I think it would be interesting to offer a competition with a small prize to find content (maybe a weekly competition for 0.01 or something would be interesting - and just a fraction of the advertising earnings)...

I can offer to subtitle the video if that's helpful @Theymos (unless a script is actually used and can just be copied and pasted).

I think it would be great. People often search in youtube for learning some stuff about bitcoin. Most of the time, they end up with less valueable information while with authorized channel from bitcointalk can really ensure some quality videos which really may help people willing to learn about bitcoin.


It would be better if you specified a budget. It would help someone to decide.

Maybe not this. Only the posts made by nullius, achow101 and gmaxwell will end up there.

Why don't you also add the courses idea with this? A video course is much better than PPT or a document. It'd be easier to find people for this, but it'd be better for you to hire them offline/IRL,since you have a little issues with trust. Be careful though, you might have to spend a little more than what you might think,depending on what content the people make.

It won't,not until moderation becomes strict and tight. Spamming will only become more. There are downsides to his: More spamming, more work for mods, which would lead to more spending. You should focus more on the members who left this place(because they stasrted hating it). New members wouldn't get what bitcoin is for a while,and they would keep asking the same questions again and again.

Don't bother starting a youtube channel or anything would bring more population to bitcointalk,so long as things are bad here. If you start youtube, more things would become a "priority" then. First,try getting rid of current issues, this will only add up as a burden to you.

I think it’s a cool idea if it were executed well. Not easy to find the right individual for something like this.

I have already planned for it and created a channel. Here : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxUX4m1kFAlKHT2Tq_p5Bng



I always believed that a video can tech teach more than writing contents or learning from pictures.

I would appreciate a review on this topic if you have time: Courses [Video Tutorial 1.1.2 - Getting Started with Bitcoin Wallet]

This could be one of many ideas to present the contents.

Recently the idea occurred to me that it might be cool to have a bitcointalk.org YouTube channel. It could contain things such as:
 - Bitcoin information
 - Summaries of recent high-quality posts
 - Summarized crypto news, but from a neutral perspective, without any pump-and-dump

If there was regular (eg. weekly) content, this might be a good way of attracting good new users and making existing users feel more engaged in the community.

Does this sound like a good idea? Is anyone interested in producing this content? I suppose we'd need at least someone with good camera presence, someone skilled at video editing, and one or more script writers. I might be willing to dedicate some forum funds to this.