Topic: Idea: Courses (Read 2366 times)
Start an education sub, where people post the learning stuff, implement a star system and have few 'reputed' people who rate the people postings.
Another bump of a great idea which died out.
There are new users around who might be interested in helping out...
There are new users around who might be interested in helping out...
I think it's a nice idea to drive adoption but there are already plenty of courses, albeit no single 'bulletproof must recommend' course.
Great if you want to do it as a charitable course but no way it would have any significant impact in the wider market.
Where I think this could be quite effective is in a local community.
In some localities I have seen people promote it and now quite a lot of stores accept bitcoin. Makes it not only easier to spend it for existing holders but also makes a lot of new holders i.e. more liquidity in the locality.
Great if you want to do it as a charitable course but no way it would have any significant impact in the wider market.
Where I think this could be quite effective is in a local community.
In some localities I have seen people promote it and now quite a lot of stores accept bitcoin. Makes it not only easier to spend it for existing holders but also makes a lot of new holders i.e. more liquidity in the locality.
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If someone actually executes this and writes a document with all the valid inputs from the experienced members of the forum and submit it as their entry for the forum's 10'th anniversary contest, they'll certainly win a big chunk of that 1 BTC.This would probably not qualify under being art though and something like the proposed courses would take many years to develop a course that would be worthwhile. A project which would have no returns and would be completely volunteer based unless they sold the courses which would probably greatly reduce their target audience.
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If someone actually executes this and writes a document with all the valid inputs from the experienced members of the forum and submit it as their entry for the forum's 10'th anniversary contest, they'll certainly win a big chunk of that 1 BTC.This would probably not qualify under being art though and something like the proposed courses would take many years to develop a course that would be worthwhile. A project which would have no returns and would be completely volunteer based unless they sold the courses which would probably greatly reduce their target audience.
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If someone actually executes this and writes a document with all the valid inputs from the experienced members of the forum and submit it as their entry for the forum's 10'th anniversary contest, they'll certainly win a big chunk of that 1 BTC. 
I found this post by a forum ad, I hope I am not committing a fault by bumping it. Was anything finally achieved? or was it a proposal that was dropped?
Bitcointalk courses has yet to become a thing and despite many people supporting the idea there has been no offocial word that progress has been made. Assuming that the courses have started being developed it would probably take a number of years before anything substantial was released. College courses are constantly developed and even have student feedback to improve the courses but because this is coming from a non educational body the content would need to be good from the get go otherwise it could look amateurish.
I found this post by a forum ad, I hope I am not committing a fault by bumping it. Was anything finally achieved? or was it a proposal that was dropped?
Thoughts?
Here is something I proposed - Contribute to CryptoCurrency learning portal CoinLearn.org.
Additionally, I'd request u to recover my stolen profile CoinLearn. Details - Urgent: Business account with green trust has been stolen. An already establishedprofile would immensely help to spearhead such a project.
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Some different/modified software would be needed. The existing threads structure is not at all suitable. Neither are wiki pages, since they're too easily messed-with. Maybe some suitable online-course software already exists. It'd be cool if the courses were internally gamified a bit, maybe with "achievements" and stuff. And it could be integrated with the main forum, eg. giving you badges on your profile if you completed a course.
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Thoughts?
Some open source GPL freeware called moodle might be suitable for hosting bitcointalk courses.
A lot of Universities use it to deliver courses. This is Cambridge University's opinion of it.
https://www.student-systems.admin.cam.ac.uk/moodle
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Moodle is a popular, flexible Virtual Learning Environment that is designed to support face-to-face teaching with a wide range of versatile online tools, as well as providing a place to upload resources for courses. It is very popular around the world as a tool for creating online dynamic teaching sites and supporting classroom training.
Developed by pedagogical experts, Moodle is a mature system with a strong and enthusiastic international community of users and developers.
Many other students and academics around the University are already familiar with the system having used it in previous institutions. It is easy and intuitive to use, both for delivering courses and for learning.
Developed by pedagogical experts, Moodle is a mature system with a strong and enthusiastic international community of users and developers.
Many other students and academics around the University are already familiar with the system having used it in previous institutions. It is easy and intuitive to use, both for delivering courses and for learning.
It's available from here.
https://moodle.org/
It's not just for face to face teaching, it has a whole range of tools for hosting online distance learning courses, not just forums and wikis.
This page details its features, and points out that "classes can be instructor-led, self-paced, blended or entirely online".
https://docs.moodle.org/35/en/Features
The only downside to it is some of its modules require javascript.
Being stimulated by the topic of @Theymos, I created my topics on blockchain and bitcoin courses (most of them are free courses) to help crypto newcomers to easily get basic stuffs on blockchain technology.
My collection can help them to save time, hence using these saved time to learn, practice more.
Additionally, I guess part of them are not familiar with using search feature of the forum, so the collection will sure be helpful.
Available courses on Bitcoin and Blockchain Technology from colleges and Universities
My collection can help them to save time, hence using these saved time to learn, practice more.
Additionally, I guess part of them are not familiar with using search feature of the forum, so the collection will sure be helpful.
Available courses on Bitcoin and Blockchain Technology from colleges and Universities
Courses could be developed in self moderated threads for brainstorming (and where scammers are deleted) and then post the finished products as a locked thread.
I like what paxmao is suggesting.
I like what paxmao is suggesting.
I don't think its a problem in finding the people willing to help out, and volunteer their time. Its the fact that a lot of these people who can write about the technical stuff will not be able to format the course effectively for those that are learning. Something similar to Gits pull requests should be enough for keeping it up to date, and relevant. Pedagogy is an art. Its one thing gathering the information, and setting it out in a logical order, but actually formatting it for ease of learning can be difficult.
Oh, well, you need to start by setting some objectives and open a discussion and one of the tools that are useful for that is a TOC just like the one I suggested above. It is, in a way, an orderly brainstorm on the contents, not that different from a Mind Map but faster and easier to post.
Normally, it will be the contents and the objectives (which should be the other area of discussion) the factors that will determine the tools your need.
Regarding voluntary work, I can only speak for myself but I am volunteering work for the forum, not for other purposes. I am absolutely fine with other people, are more condescending on that point and I am also fine if other people are considered more qualified to develop the topics (I am not going to provide my CV nor identity).
No doubt it is an art and each teacher or training professional have their own ways. Mine is based on an Lean Enterpeneurship approach to the course. Build the MVP, get feed-back-improve - rinse and repeat. The MVP does not need videos nor sophisticated platforms for sure. One you hit the "market" you will discover if your public wants that or maybe something completely different that you did not even consider.
I don't think its a problem in finding the people willing to help out, and volunteer their time. Its the fact that a lot of these people who can write about the technical stuff will not be able to format the course effectively for those that are learning. Something similar to Gits pull requests should be enough for keeping it up to date, and relevant. Pedagogy is an art. Its one thing gathering the information, and setting it out in a logical order, but actually formatting it for ease of learning can be difficult.
Today, I found this course by chance in another topic.
I would like to share it with Theymos, our prestigious admin.
Cryptocurrency Investment and Disruption (from The London School of Economics and Political Science (LSE))
Hope this one is a helpful information for the ambitious topic.
I would like to share it with Theymos, our prestigious admin.
Cryptocurrency Investment and Disruption (from The London School of Economics and Political Science (LSE))
Hope this one is a helpful information for the ambitious topic.
I would favour the courses themselves being tied as much as possible to the forum itself, being a proprietary feature, since it could help to boost it’s profile and position as well as to underline it’s mission.
I agree, many people would be willing to volunteer work for the forum, I not so sure of doing so for an externally owned platform that may have some rights on the contents or may close operations, may start charging fees, may gather user data,.... There are many problems that come with outsourcing.
Regarding contents, this would be a White TOC for discussion:
0. The Forum
0.1 Being a constructive bitcointalk.org member (inc descriptions of activity, merit and trust)
0.2 Resources to improve your written English.
0.3 Help keeping the forum clean (how to report abuse in the forum or the campaigns)
1. Cryptocurrencies
1.1 Intro to Cryptocurrency
A bit of history, a bit of basic technical background some basic terms to understand the rest of the materials.
1.3 Buying safely
1.4 Storing safely
2. Investing in Crypto
2.1 Buy and Hodl
2.2 Trading
Basics of technical trading
Advanced concepts
2.3 ICOs and ITOs
2.2.1 - Basic concepts (MarketCap, issuance, value of the tokens).
2.2.2 - Due diligence for non-experts
2.2.3 - Basics of venture capital investment and Startups
2.2.4 - Understanding risk and reward
2.2.5 - Accelerated MBA crash course
3. Other ways of earning crypto
3.1 Airdrops, faucets and freebies.
3.2 Promotions and campaigns
3.2.1 Signature
3.2.2 Socials
3.2.3 Other
3.3 KYC and your personal data
(As long as campaigns are allowed in the forum is better to guide the users towards taking part in them constructively rather than ignoring their existence)
4. Crypto Technology
4.1 Bitcoin
4.2 Alts
4.3 Programming resources
This is an Alfa TOC and includes some previous ideas of other members.
- A long & advanced course on implementing a Bitcoin-like cryptocurrency largely from scratch in Python or another easy language. (Some of my best courses in university had this model, where you're provided a bunch of library code and then you glue it together by writing a few hundred lines for each assignment, at the end of the course getting some sort of complete thing.)
I've been playing with the ILIAS software, and so far, I'm quite impressed. I'll probably keep the site, and use if tor instruction about the domain name system, and topics like that. I don't understand enough about it to know if it could be intergrated into Bitcoin Talk though.
I don't have any concrete plans for this at all, but I've been thinking recently that the Bitcoin community desperately needs some high-quality, unbiased online courses, and perhaps bitcointalk.org would be a good place to host such a thing. This is just a brainstorming thread.
Example courses that come to mind:
Introductory cryptocurrency investing
- The main focus would be not getting scammed and not losing all of your money.
- It would be very careful not to endorse any particular sites, investments, or trading methods.
- Overall extremely conservative, to balance out all of the pump around here.
- It might be similar to the sort of material on investor.gov, but less authoritarian (eg. no "only trust SEC-approved things") and with more cryptocurrency focus.
Using English naturally online
- Tips targeted at non-native English speakers for acting naturally online.
Being a constructive bitcointalk.org member
Making money online
- SANE tips for making money, especially for people in less-developed countries. No unwise things like gambling or high-risk investing, and no non-constructive things like spamming the forum with garbage.
Basic cryptocurrency concepts
Accepting Bitcoin payments
Implementing Bitcoin
- A long & advanced course on implementing a Bitcoin-like cryptocurrency largely from scratch in Python or another easy language. (Some of my best courses in university had this model, where you're provided a bunch of library code and then you glue it together by writing a few hundred lines for each assignment, at the end of the course getting some sort of complete thing.)
Some different/modified software would be needed. The existing threads structure is not at all suitable. Neither are wiki pages, since they're too easily messed-with. Maybe some suitable online-course software already exists. It'd be cool if the courses were internally gamified a bit, maybe with "achievements" and stuff. And it could be integrated with the main forum, eg. giving you badges on your profile if you completed a course.
A real challenge, which I'm not exactly sure how to solve, would be to keep them up-to-date, accurate, and unbiased. 99.9% of introductory cryptocurrency info on the Internet is basically an advertisement for something, and therefore not very useful. If anyone could create a course and publish it on equal standing with the other courses, then we'd end up with a huge pile of altcoin-pump courses, "how to make money using totally-safe HYIPs", and stuff like that. But if courses are only written by trusted & competent people after significant mod review, then only a limited number of courses could be created, and they'd probably quickly become outdated. Perhaps it'd work to do a github-style pull-request format led by some trustworthy editors. (Github could even be used, though that's pretty difficult to use for people not already familiar with git.)
Thoughts?
Example courses that come to mind:
Introductory cryptocurrency investing
- The main focus would be not getting scammed and not losing all of your money.
- It would be very careful not to endorse any particular sites, investments, or trading methods.
- Overall extremely conservative, to balance out all of the pump around here.
- It might be similar to the sort of material on investor.gov, but less authoritarian (eg. no "only trust SEC-approved things") and with more cryptocurrency focus.
Using English naturally online
- Tips targeted at non-native English speakers for acting naturally online.
Being a constructive bitcointalk.org member
Making money online
- SANE tips for making money, especially for people in less-developed countries. No unwise things like gambling or high-risk investing, and no non-constructive things like spamming the forum with garbage.
Basic cryptocurrency concepts
Accepting Bitcoin payments
Implementing Bitcoin
- A long & advanced course on implementing a Bitcoin-like cryptocurrency largely from scratch in Python or another easy language. (Some of my best courses in university had this model, where you're provided a bunch of library code and then you glue it together by writing a few hundred lines for each assignment, at the end of the course getting some sort of complete thing.)
Some different/modified software would be needed. The existing threads structure is not at all suitable. Neither are wiki pages, since they're too easily messed-with. Maybe some suitable online-course software already exists. It'd be cool if the courses were internally gamified a bit, maybe with "achievements" and stuff. And it could be integrated with the main forum, eg. giving you badges on your profile if you completed a course.
A real challenge, which I'm not exactly sure how to solve, would be to keep them up-to-date, accurate, and unbiased. 99.9% of introductory cryptocurrency info on the Internet is basically an advertisement for something, and therefore not very useful. If anyone could create a course and publish it on equal standing with the other courses, then we'd end up with a huge pile of altcoin-pump courses, "how to make money using totally-safe HYIPs", and stuff like that. But if courses are only written by trusted & competent people after significant mod review, then only a limited number of courses could be created, and they'd probably quickly become outdated. Perhaps it'd work to do a github-style pull-request format led by some trustworthy editors. (Github could even be used, though that's pretty difficult to use for people not already familiar with git.)
Thoughts?
A good idea of course , i personally liked python / implementing crypto sounds really geeky and cool , many newbie user also can take advantage from making money online course.
Hope all goes smoothly and cant wait for this course stuff will be coming ( even tho its still planning )
It could be working if there are enought people who can contribute creating good and interesting content for the courses. In particular i like this, i had similar essays in the university structured like that as well:
Implementing Bitcoin
- A long & advanced course on implementing a Bitcoin-like cryptocurrency largely from scratch in Python or another easy language. (Some of my best courses in university had this model, where you're provided a bunch of library code and then you glue it together by writing a few hundred lines for each assignment, at the end of the course getting some sort of complete thing.)
On github there seems to be quite a few projects coming up looking for "learning platform", without even considering the commercial one. So there is no shortage of ready solutions.
One of the main question is what kind of integration with the forum is going to be required, if one of the goal is to keep some sort of continuity. If it need to be completely integrated, is probably better to add this whole dimension to the new forum peraphs?
Implementing Bitcoin
- A long & advanced course on implementing a Bitcoin-like cryptocurrency largely from scratch in Python or another easy language. (Some of my best courses in university had this model, where you're provided a bunch of library code and then you glue it together by writing a few hundred lines for each assignment, at the end of the course getting some sort of complete thing.)
On github there seems to be quite a few projects coming up looking for "learning platform", without even considering the commercial one. So there is no shortage of ready solutions.
One of the main question is what kind of integration with the forum is going to be required, if one of the goal is to keep some sort of continuity. If it need to be completely integrated, is probably better to add this whole dimension to the new forum peraphs?
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