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can you increase "step" of the wall for Huobi?

3500 is quite a big number, and steps by 10 Yen not much useful.
I suggest to increase step by at least 25 for CNY.


It's understandable to make it mathematical formula to change these steps (so it will be autoadjusted if price reach ever 3000 USD on btc for example).
Not sure how should formula be, but seems like with current volatility 1% per step looks okish.
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1007
I'm not sure I understand the problem. There are two things you mention, right?

1) Problem: Not all exchanges return the entire order book. Solution: Work with what you get. Also, it seems that the currently most important exchange, Bitstamp, does return the full order book, right?

2) Problem: Too much data needed. Solution: Maybe I missed something, but you don't need to keep the order book data, no? Just calculate the ratio once, and keep that. Or did I misunderstand you?

I don't know what happens at the backend of your website, so maybe I underestimate the amount of code needed to make bid/ask work, but to me it seems that if you only store the bid/ask ratio value itself, not the order book data, it's not such a huge amount of data you need to handle... but maybe I'm wrong.
Another 40+ tables needed to save the depth result.
Then calculate the bid/ask and save to table, embed the result to period.
Modify frontend return the extra field. It cannot not simple added. because it's not apart of trades or period.
Also there are some small issues, such as find a way to make it works in realtime.

Hmm, I see. Can I make a suggestion? Maybe look at bid/ask on the link I already gave above, or on http://coinorama.net/ for example, and see if it helps your own trading in the coming weeks or so.

If it does help you, maybe you can consider implementing it, but if you conclude it's a useless indicator, that's a good reason not to implement it.
legendary
Activity: 3164
Merit: 1003
== April 29, 2013, 08:34:33 AM ==
Hi all,
After several weeks hard working, new featured market watching site http://bitcoinwisdom.com/ is up , currently only support Mt.Gox BTC/USD market. Hope you like it Smiley

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== June 28, 2013, 03:15:33 PM ==
Now BitcoinWisdom Supports

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== July 07, 2013, 09:21:41 PM ==
Add Crypto-Trade BTC/USD, LTC/USD, LTC/BTC

== TODO List ==
Here is the TODO list, the priority is from high to low

Exchange comparision
Custom watching list
Cloud saving settings
Support drawing lines and fib
More Indicators
Export chart



It would be nice if you could add all the crypto currencies real time. i would pay money for that.  ty
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 505
I'm not sure I understand the problem. There are two things you mention, right?

1) Problem: Not all exchanges return the entire order book. Solution: Work with what you get. Also, it seems that the currently most important exchange, Bitstamp, does return the full order book, right?

2) Problem: Too much data needed. Solution: Maybe I missed something, but you don't need to keep the order book data, no? Just calculate the ratio once, and keep that. Or did I misunderstand you?

I don't know what happens at the backend of your website, so maybe I underestimate the amount of code needed to make bid/ask work, but to me it seems that if you only store the bid/ask ratio value itself, not the order book data, it's not such a huge amount of data you need to handle... but maybe I'm wrong.
Another 40+ tables needed to save the depth result.
Then calculate the bid/ask and save to table, embed the result to period.
Modify frontend return the extra field. It cannot not simple added. because it's not apart of trades or period.
Also there are some small issues, such as find a way to make it works in realtime.
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 505
Hello, is there any possibility that you can implement "ignore trades below xxx" for your great interface?
0.xxxx trades from bots are really annoying to see in trading activities and bid/ask table.

Thanks for reply, or ... implementing that Smiley

K.
Actually, I've implemented two different mode for filter trades.
The first is let user input the threshold, below xxx will be filtered.
The second is 'auto filter', shows 98.5% total volume of trades, so all tiny trades will be filtered automatically.
But there are some issues when using.
1. There is no good position to place the option.
2. It will increase complex when using.
3. The trades number is not too much. So I won't feel it's great improvement when using even it has filtered 20% tiny trades. Only useful when I  need to see the trades which is above 1 BTC only.
So it won't be supported currently.
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1007
@bitcoinwisdom

Could you please look one more time into bid/ask for Bitstamp?

I just found another site that shows historical data of bid/ask for bitstamp (http://coinsight.org/bitstamp), so there must be some way to do it.

I know you said already that the Bitstamp API doesn't give you the info directly, but somehow those other guys seemed to manage to extract the information somehow... and you've proven to be extremely competent, so I just hope you can get it to work as well.
It isn't trade bid/ask ratio, it's orderbook(depth) bid/ask ratio. Maybe I confused before, do you mean orderbook bid/ask ratio or trade bid/ask?

order book!

damn, we talked about different things all the time, huh?
I see. I'm not familiar with this indicator.  If ask is 1 2 and bid 0.1 0.2, Is the sum bid / sum ask (0.1*0.2)/(2)=0.01 ?

To my knowledge, order book bid/ask ratio is calculated as: Total_Bid_Sum(USD)/Total_Ask_Sum(BTC).

For example, right now Bitstamp total order book BID is ~22 million USD, ASK is ~17000 BTC, so bid/ask is ~1294 USD/BTC.

There are then two ways to display this ratio over time:
(1) "raw", as calculated above, or
(2) "normalized" for the actual price at the same time as the ratio is calculated, example: currently, ratio is 1294 USD/BTC (as calculated above), current price is 585 USD/BTC, so normalized ratio is ~2.2 (dimensionless).

* * *

In my experience order book bid/ask ratio has to be used carefully, since the order book is obviously target for manipulation, but looking at how the ratio changes over time can be very useful to determine trend reversals.
Here are some problems to support this indicator.
The key problem is 'not all exchanges returns full orderbook'. So it only works in some exchangee. If limit the orderbook range, for example from -20% to 20%. I have no idea if the indicator is still valuable.
To implement this indicator will change a lot of the database structure and write much code for the server does not record the orderbook. So I have to ensure the indicator is really useful and worth to be implemented.

I'm not sure I understand the problem. There are two things you mention, right?

1) Problem: Not all exchanges return the entire order book. Solution: Work with what you get. Also, it seems that the currently most important exchange, Bitstamp, does return the full order book, right?

2) Problem: Too much data needed. Solution: Maybe I missed something, but you don't need to keep the order book data, no? Just calculate the ratio once, and keep that. Or did I misunderstand you?

I don't know what happens at the backend of your website, so maybe I underestimate the amount of code needed to make bid/ask work, but to me it seems that if you only store the bid/ask ratio value itself, not the order book data, it's not such a huge amount of data you need to handle... but maybe I'm wrong.
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
Hello, is there any possibility that you can implement "ignore trades below xxx" for your great interface?
0.xxxx trades from bots are really annoying to see in trading activities and bid/ask table.

Thanks for reply, or ... implementing that Smiley

K.
newbie
Activity: 44
Merit: 0
Hi,

I have a question and request maybe if its possible.
I draw a line today to calculate what trend is and I think that small pointer betwen time and the volumes (something like this square with candles or even smaller) would be great thing to have.

What do You think mr BitcoinWisdom? Smiley

and ofc thanks for beautiful and useful site you've done!
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 505
Hey.. Thanks for your great work!

I have one question: It would be nice to display always the hour on the chart... Not only on :30 or :0.. For me it would be easier to see on the first look.. Thanks..

I'm sorry, I cannot understand your question well. What is 'always the hour on the chart' and ':30' or ':0'?
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 505
@bitcoinwisdom

Could you please look one more time into bid/ask for Bitstamp?

I just found another site that shows historical data of bid/ask for bitstamp (http://coinsight.org/bitstamp), so there must be some way to do it.

I know you said already that the Bitstamp API doesn't give you the info directly, but somehow those other guys seemed to manage to extract the information somehow... and you've proven to be extremely competent, so I just hope you can get it to work as well.
It isn't trade bid/ask ratio, it's orderbook(depth) bid/ask ratio. Maybe I confused before, do you mean orderbook bid/ask ratio or trade bid/ask?

order book!

damn, we talked about different things all the time, huh?
I see. I'm not familiar with this indicator.  If ask is 1 2 and bid 0.1 0.2, Is the sum bid / sum ask (0.1*0.2)/(2)=0.01 ?

To my knowledge, order book bid/ask ratio is calculated as: Total_Bid_Sum(USD)/Total_Ask_Sum(BTC).

For example, right now Bitstamp total order book BID is ~22 million USD, ASK is ~17000 BTC, so bid/ask is ~1294 USD/BTC.

There are then two ways to display this ratio over time:
(1) "raw", as calculated above, or
(2) "normalized" for the actual price at the same time as the ratio is calculated, example: currently, ratio is 1294 USD/BTC (as calculated above), current price is 585 USD/BTC, so normalized ratio is ~2.2 (dimensionless).

* * *

In my experience order book bid/ask ratio has to be used carefully, since the order book is obviously target for manipulation, but looking at how the ratio changes over time can be very useful to determine trend reversals.
Here are some problems to support this indicator.
The key problem is 'not all exchanges returns full orderbook'. So it only works in some exchangee. If limit the orderbook range, for example from -20% to 20%. I have no idea if the indicator is still valuable.
To implement this indicator will change a lot of the database structure and write much code for the server does not record the orderbook. So I have to ensure the indicator is really useful and worth to be implemented.
newbie
Activity: 1
Merit: 0
Is there a way I can use CAD with the Bitstamp chart? Apologies if this has been covered somewhere, but I'd like to view all the charts in CAD. I registered for the site but it wasn't an option.
sr. member
Activity: 240
Merit: 250
Hey.. Thanks for your great work!

I have one question: It would be nice to display always the hour on the chart... Not only on :30 or :0.. For me it would be easier to see on the first look.. Thanks..
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1007
@bitcoinwisdom

Could you please look one more time into bid/ask for Bitstamp?

I just found another site that shows historical data of bid/ask for bitstamp (http://coinsight.org/bitstamp), so there must be some way to do it.

I know you said already that the Bitstamp API doesn't give you the info directly, but somehow those other guys seemed to manage to extract the information somehow... and you've proven to be extremely competent, so I just hope you can get it to work as well.
It isn't trade bid/ask ratio, it's orderbook(depth) bid/ask ratio. Maybe I confused before, do you mean orderbook bid/ask ratio or trade bid/ask?

order book!

damn, we talked about different things all the time, huh?
I see. I'm not familiar with this indicator.  If ask is 1 2 and bid 0.1 0.2, Is the sum bid / sum ask (0.1*0.2)/(2)=0.01 ?

To my knowledge, order book bid/ask ratio is calculated as: Total_Bid_Sum(USD)/Total_Ask_Sum(BTC).

For example, right now Bitstamp total order book BID is ~22 million USD, ASK is ~17000 BTC, so bid/ask is ~1294 USD/BTC.

There are then two ways to display this ratio over time:
(1) "raw", as calculated above, or
(2) "normalized" for the actual price at the same time as the ratio is calculated, example: currently, ratio is 1294 USD/BTC (as calculated above), current price is 585 USD/BTC, so normalized ratio is ~2.2 (dimensionless).

* * *

In my experience order book bid/ask ratio has to be used carefully, since the order book is obviously target for manipulation, but looking at how the ratio changes over time can be very useful to determine trend reversals.
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 505
There is a gap in the Bitstamp data, of about 8h, only in the 30m timeframe (not in any other that I could see).
It is around 11:30 AM GMT 26/02/2014. The previous 8h of data are missing, it seems.

Keep up the awesome work.
Refresh browser is needed when browser stop receiving data for long time.
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
I am Citizenfive.
MINTCOIN  -- any chance we can get MintCoin add to the charts ??-- lots of attention coming to this coin right now (dogecoin-like) with over 2k BTC Volume yesterday & over 1k BTC Volume today -- MintPal Exchange also seems to be giving Cryptsy a good run for the Alt-coin exchange space

Thanks
There are no altcoins with the exception of LTC/USD on bitcoinwisdom, and I highly doubt there will ever be.

As to the creator of this website, thank you so much for this. It's my go-to chart when I want to show people a chart of the price, and it also helped me understand EMA and other more technical things I didn't know about before.

There are several, in fact. They display most of the pairs traded on BTC-e (like PPC/USD and PPC/BTC), for example.

That said, Mintcoin does not probably achieve the minimum attention necessary for listing. If it does, community demand -- from people like bitcoinbravo -- will cause it to become listed.
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 505
@bitcoinwisdom

Could you please look one more time into bid/ask for Bitstamp?

I just found another site that shows historical data of bid/ask for bitstamp (http://coinsight.org/bitstamp), so there must be some way to do it.

I know you said already that the Bitstamp API doesn't give you the info directly, but somehow those other guys seemed to manage to extract the information somehow... and you've proven to be extremely competent, so I just hope you can get it to work as well.
It isn't trade bid/ask ratio, it's orderbook(depth) bid/ask ratio. Maybe I confused before, do you mean orderbook bid/ask ratio or trade bid/ask?

order book!

damn, we talked about different things all the time, huh?
I see. I'm not familiar with this indicator.  If ask is 1 2 and bid 0.1 0.2, Is the sum bid / sum ask (0.1*0.2)/(2)=0.01 ?
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1007
@bitcoinwisdom

Could you please look one more time into bid/ask for Bitstamp?

I just found another site that shows historical data of bid/ask for bitstamp (http://coinsight.org/bitstamp), so there must be some way to do it.

I know you said already that the Bitstamp API doesn't give you the info directly, but somehow those other guys seemed to manage to extract the information somehow... and you've proven to be extremely competent, so I just hope you can get it to work as well.
It isn't trade bid/ask ratio, it's orderbook(depth) bid/ask ratio. Maybe I confused before, do you mean orderbook bid/ask ratio or trade bid/ask?

order book!

damn, we talked about different things all the time, huh?
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 505
@bitcoinwisdom

Could you please look one more time into bid/ask for Bitstamp?

I just found another site that shows historical data of bid/ask for bitstamp (http://coinsight.org/bitstamp), so there must be some way to do it.

I know you said already that the Bitstamp API doesn't give you the info directly, but somehow those other guys seemed to manage to extract the information somehow... and you've proven to be extremely competent, so I just hope you can get it to work as well.
It isn't trade bid/ask ratio, it's orderbook(depth) bid/ask ratio. Maybe I confused before, do you mean orderbook bid/ask ratio or trade bid/ask?
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1007
@bitcoinwisdom

Could you please look one more time into bid/ask for Bitstamp?

I just found another site that shows historical data of bid/ask for bitstamp (http://coinsight.org/bitstamp), so there must be some way to do it.

I know you said already that the Bitstamp API doesn't give you the info directly, but somehow those other guys seemed to manage to extract the information somehow... and you've proven to be extremely competent, so I just hope you can get it to work as well.
hero member
Activity: 854
Merit: 658
rgbkey.github.io/pgp.txt
MINTCOIN  -- any chance we can get MintCoin add to the charts ??-- lots of attention coming to this coin right now (dogecoin-like) with over 2k BTC Volume yesterday & over 1k BTC Volume today -- MintPal Exchange also seems to be giving Cryptsy a good run for the Alt-coin exchange space

Thanks
There are no altcoins with the exception of LTC/USD on bitcoinwisdom, and I highly doubt there will ever be.

As to the creator of this website, thank you so much for this. It's my go-to chart when I want to show people a chart of the price, and it also helped me understand EMA and other more technical things I didn't know about before.
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