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Quote from: TheGreatPython on January 11, 2020, 12:22:14 PM

It is interesting to see people who will still support the website after all that is done. We are talking about people who had thousands of bitcoin, millions of dollars and yet we are still talking about "can't implement new things to outdated website".

I am sorry but with that kind of money you can hire the best developers around the globe for months on out until they finish the websites new version and on top of that add insane amount of games and features, we are not talking about couple thousand dollars here, we are talking about millions of dollars here, they have more than enough money to continue to work like that.

Hopefully, either they will realize they did a mistake by not doing anything so far and quickly change some stuff, or people at least will realize that the team doesn't have best of intentions.

Totals for running outdated site are Running Costs $771,772.00 for 2 years

Quote from: game-protect on January 11, 2020, 02:13:53 PM

How much money did the investors who joined the ICO lose?

In terms of token value 77% sale price

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How much money did the investors who joined the ICO lose?

BoXXoB

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on January 11, 2020, 12:22:14 PM

It is interesting to see people who will still support the website after all that is done. We are talking about people who had thousands of bitcoin, millions of dollars and yet we are still talking about "can't implement new things to outdated website".

I am sorry but with that kind of money you can hire the best developers around the globe for months on out until they finish the websites new version and on top of that add insane amount of games and features, we are not talking about couple thousand dollars here, we are talking about millions of dollars here, they have more than enough money to continue to work like that.

Hopefully, either they will realize they did a mistake by not doing anything so far and quickly change some stuff, or people at least will realize that the team doesn't have best of intentions.

1) I meant implementing new stuff to the current iteration of the website makes no sense because there's already a good amount of progress made on the revamped website

2) The management isn't ignoring the fact that there's been delays and it's been addressed in the reports too (as I've said before)

3) If you had read my earlier posts, you would know that I said that getting those developers is underway

I am all for discussion but throwing accusations without reading previous posts is annoying.

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It is interesting to see people who will still support the website after all that is done. We are talking about people who had thousands of bitcoin, millions of dollars and yet we are still talking about "can't implement new things to outdated website".

I am sorry but with that kind of money you can hire the best developers around the globe for months on out until they finish the websites new version and on top of that add insane amount of games and features, we are not talking about couple thousand dollars here, we are talking about millions of dollars here, they have more than enough money to continue to work like that.

Hopefully, either they will realize they did a mistake by not doing anything so far and quickly change some stuff, or people at least will realize that the team doesn't have best of intentions.

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Quote from: BoXXoB on January 10, 2020, 08:51:10 AM

That's the plan but I believe the issue is that finding devs who stick around is difficult. It's easy to find those who switch companies at every chance.

This what differs Bitdice from others where they didn't tend to ran off in spite of the situation.Regarding on roadmap shown where theres a delay but doesn't mean that it wont be implemented nor be updated.

@all ---We know on whats the current condition in the market and its been for couple of years which mainly affect not only
Bitdice ICO but on overall.Its said that there would be some changes for this year so lets wait for that thing.

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Quote from: docthusinh on January 10, 2020, 09:14:21 AM

Quote from: BoXXoB on January 10, 2020, 08:51:10 AM

Quote from: docthusinh on January 10, 2020, 08:34:28 AM

Quote from: BoXXoB on January 10, 2020, 08:17:40 AM

Quote from: game-protect on January 10, 2020, 08:07:16 AM

If you converted USD 10 million it does not take 2 years to implement the accounced features!

You behave like the betking.io scam!

If I've understood correctly, features have mostly been delayed because it hasn't made sense to deploy them on the old, outdated site.

Hope that they choose the right path & strategy. Hire a decent team of developers and effectively manage them is another critical task as well as he will not get a good developer if salary paid is not at least 80k / year (might need to be over 100k to attract tallents for small sized company) for a labor market like US, if he's based in UK the price tag might be around that number or if he managed to hire employees from other cheaper labor countries such as China, India or Viet Nam the salary might decrease but will not less than 2000 USD a month (24k / year) and probably won't work out since he will need a physical office setup there.

That's the plan but I believe the issue is that finding devs who stick around is difficult. It's easy to find those who switch companies at every chance.

The key issue is the expertise level of the owner himself, if the owner can't control his team then the project won't work out with any progress (like he has no idea of what his project team leader talking about), hope that he is not just a tech savy (which know/have some knowledge of programming but not expert on it) but i really doubt since "features have mostly been delayed because it hasn't made sense to deploy them on the old, outdated site" show that it was a poorly designed framework/platform that lac"k of feasibility and extensibility. Trust me, I've worked for a software development company, which the boss know sale but know none of the technical, and it declining time by time because no progress is made but most of the time is for argument between the team and the boss on technical things.

@docthusinh I believe Alex and his team are smart enough to handle this project, because if they weren’t then they would have added those features on the old site and then they would have witnessed it becoming a disaster. As @BoXXoB has clearly hinted work is underway for a new revamped site and hopefully we’ll see it soon, but in the meantime let’s all be patient and support the team because I’m sure we all will be amazed once the site is completely redesigned.

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I guess let's be honest, the most important part of a business is to have money, if you have money that means you are running a good business. They got the money, they have the "business" as in the casino, that means they could just live the rest of their lives comfortably without ever to work again a single day in their life and nothing would happen to them. This is not a "scam" technically, they didn't force you to send your money to them, they didn't lie about the website, the website is here, maybe it is back logged on development a bit but honestly you can't claim scam on that on any legal court at all and no lawyer would take this seriously when you tell them "we gave them money to improve and they are late".

So, they got away with it facing no trouble at all, kudos to them what can I say.

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Quote from: BoXXoB on January 10, 2020, 08:51:10 AM

Quote from: docthusinh on January 10, 2020, 08:34:28 AM

Quote from: BoXXoB on January 10, 2020, 08:17:40 AM

Quote from: game-protect on January 10, 2020, 08:07:16 AM

If you converted USD 10 million it does not take 2 years to implement the accounced features!

You behave like the betking.io scam!

If I've understood correctly, features have mostly been delayed because it hasn't made sense to deploy them on the old, outdated site.

Hope that they choose the right path & strategy. Hire a decent team of developers and effectively manage them is another critical task as well as he will not get a good developer if salary paid is not at least 80k / year (might need to be over 100k to attract tallents for small sized company) for a labor market like US, if he's based in UK the price tag might be around that number or if he managed to hire employees from other cheaper labor countries such as China, India or Viet Nam the salary might decrease but will not less than 2000 USD a month (24k / year) and probably won't work out since he will need a physical office setup there.

That's the plan but I believe the issue is that finding devs who stick around is difficult. It's easy to find those who switch companies at every chance.

The key issue is the expertise level of the owner himself, if the owner can't control his team then the project won't work out with any progress (like he has no idea of what his project team leader talking about), hope that he is not just a tech savy (which know/have some knowledge of programming but not expert on it) but i really doubt since "features have mostly been delayed because it hasn't made sense to deploy them on the old, outdated site" show that it was a poorly designed framework/platform that lack of feasibility and extensibility. Trust me, I've worked for a software development company, which the boss know sale but know none of the technical, and it declining time by time because no progress is made but most of the time is for argument between the team and the boss on technical things.

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Quote from: dunfida on January 10, 2020, 08:35:55 AM

There are similar sites that do end up on the same path https://www.katiewager.com/gambling-tokens.html so this one isnt surprising.

What I can tell is that all sites will follow the same path (90%-100% lost of value) if decided to call for an ICO pledged to USD value with a token and then get it listed on some random exchanges, it is likely that the coin/token value will drop immediately, mainly because of the owner will likely dump the remaining of his unsold token to the public via these random exchanges. It only legit if any how there is an exact model of real life IPO/ Public offering to be carried over and apply to crypto and it denomination/minium price will alway be valuated against BTC, as well as there will aways be a full buy back commitment after a certain period of time (at least any investor can have his stake buy back fully at wish with original committed price).

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Quote from: docthusinh on January 10, 2020, 08:34:28 AM

Quote from: BoXXoB on January 10, 2020, 08:17:40 AM

Quote from: game-protect on January 10, 2020, 08:07:16 AM

If you converted USD 10 million it does not take 2 years to implement the accounced features!

You behave like the betking.io scam!

If I've understood correctly, features have mostly been delayed because it hasn't made sense to deploy them on the old, outdated site.

Hope that they choose the right path & strategy. Hire a decent team of developers and effectively manage them is another critical task as well as he will not get a good developer if salary paid is not at least 80k / year (might need to be over 100k to attract tallents for small sized company) for a labor market like US, if he's based in UK the price tag might be around that number or if he managed to hire employees from other cheaper labor countries such as China, India or Viet Nam the salary might decrease but will not less than 2000 USD a month (24k / year) and probably won't work out since he will need a physical office setup there.

That's the plan but I believe the issue is that finding devs who stick around is difficult. It's easy to find those who switch companies at every chance.

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There are similar sites that do end up on the same path https://www.katiewager.com/gambling-tokens.html so this one isnt surprising.

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Quote from: BoXXoB on January 10, 2020, 08:17:40 AM

Quote from: game-protect on January 10, 2020, 08:07:16 AM

If you converted USD 10 million it does not take 2 years to implement the accounced features!

You behave like the betking.io scam!

If I've understood correctly, features have mostly been delayed because it hasn't made sense to deploy them on the old, outdated site.

Hope that they choose the right path & strategy. Hire a decent team of developers and effectively manage them is another critical task as well as he will not get a good developer if salary paid is not at least 80k / year (might need to be over 100k to attract tallents for small sized company) for a labor market like US, if he's based in UK the price tag might be around that number or if he managed to hire employees from other cheaper labor countries such as China, India or Viet Nam the salary might decrease but will not less than 2000 USD a month (24k / year) and probably won't work out since he will need a physical office setup there.

BoXXoB

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Quote from: joksim299 on January 10, 2020, 08:29:14 AM

According to CMC total ROI for BitDice (CSNO) token is -77%

Performance after ICO

Some more info and statistical data regarding BitDice can be found at http://www.thelazycryptoinvestor.com/dividend-tokens/bitdice/ it seems accurate

Again, I don't think anyone is denying the fact that the price is low. Going to repeat myself by saying that this is the wrong thread for this and I'm not here to answer those questions.

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Bitdice is scam scam scammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

According to CMC total ROI for BitDice (CSNO) token is -77%

Performance after ICO

Some more info and statistical data regarding BitDice can be found at http://www.thelazycryptoinvestor.com/dividend-tokens/bitdice/ it seems accurate,
they also have copy of white fairy tale http://www.thelazycryptoinvestor.com/docs/bitdice_whitepaper.pdf

BoXXoB

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Quote from: game-protect on January 10, 2020, 08:07:16 AM

If you converted USD 10 million it does not take 2 years to implement the accounced features!

You behave like the betking.io scam!

If I've understood correctly, features have mostly been delayed because it hasn't made sense to deploy them on the old, outdated site.

EDIT: I'd just like to add that I'm here to answer the casino players about stuff relating to that. This thread shouldn't really be the place for this kind of speculation because it's the wrong section for that. I have and will answer to the best of my knowledge but it's still something that is out of my area.

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If you converted USD 10 million it does not take 2 years to implement the announced features!

You behave like the betking.io scam!

BoXXoB

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Quote from: joksim299 on January 10, 2020, 06:54:26 AM

Quote from: game-protect on January 10, 2020, 06:49:09 AM

Quote from: joksim299 on January 09, 2020, 07:23:29 PM

We're in 2020 and what's promised by the end of 2018 is not ready yet and since ICO concluded there weren't any advertising campaign or marketing activities with 0BTC spent on marketing.
Even year later after deadline they didn't create mobile app, they didn't develop roulette, raffle using tokens, own slots,plinko, video poker and no signs of Poker mutliplier game

They still hold the ICO funds but did not use it as promised?

How much BTC did they collect during the ICO?

BTC: 3231.8
ETH: 222.56
IOTA: 0.44717
LTC: 45.1
DOGE: 0.0009
10,000,000 converted in USD

Here is the original thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ico-bitdice-join-the-ico-of-the-biggest-crowdfunded-casino-with-2300-profit-2047543

While you're correct about what was said in the roadmap, it's still a rough estimation and the delays have been addressed in the quarterly reports I believe. The management is very well aware of this and from what I have gathered, work is being done tirelessly by them.

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Quote from: game-protect on January 10, 2020, 06:49:09 AM

Quote from: joksim299 on January 09, 2020, 07:23:29 PM

We're in 2020 and what's promised by the end of 2018 is not ready yet and since ICO concluded there weren't any advertising campaign or marketing activities with 0BTC spent on marketing.
Even year later after deadline they didn't create mobile app, they didn't develop roulette, raffle using tokens, own slots,plinko, video poker and no signs of Poker mutliplier game

They still hold the ICO funds but did not use it as promised?

How much BTC did they collect during the ICO?

BTC: 3231.8
ETH: 222.56
IOTA: 0.44717
LTC: 45.1
DOGE: 0.0009
10,000,000 converted in USD

Here is the original thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ico-bitdice-join-the-ico-of-the-biggest-crowdfunded-casino-with-2300-profit-2047543

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Quote from: joksim299 on January 09, 2020, 07:23:29 PM

We're in 2020 and what's promised by the end of 2018 is not ready yet and since ICO concluded there weren't any advertising campaign or marketing activities with 0BTC spent on marketing.
Even year later after deadline they didn't create mobile app, they didn't develop roulette, raffle using tokens, own slots,plinko, video poker and no signs of Poker mutliplier game

They still hold the ICO funds but did not use it as promised?

How much BTC did they collect during the ICO?

joksim299

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Bitdice is scam scam scammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Quote from: jossiel on January 09, 2020, 03:35:15 PM

Quote from: docthusinh on January 07, 2020, 04:22:29 AM

Quote from: jossiel on January 07, 2020, 01:45:21 AM

It's okay, don't you worry when BitDice starts a contest it will get the attention that most of the dice players want. Who knows if Alex is reading your post here and soon may start a contest.

Yeah, the most scary part is the scope of new Bitdice 2.0 site and hopefully he and his team (or hired contractor) have enough level of expertise to roll out everything as planned as soon as possible. Given a scenario that they can easily kick out every new competitors with their experience, but hopefully fast enough before one of promissing sites going to be lauched (Freebitco.in sister site), that would be really pain in the ass since that is a giant lol.

Don't worry about that, they have been running the casino for years so basically they know what they do and aware of the concerns of their customers. And this is the reason why they're doing it, to give a better gambling experience to everyone.

And there's no need to compare BitDice to other casinos.

We're in 2020 and what's promised by the end of 2018 is not ready yet and since ICO concluded there weren't any advertising campaign or marketing activities with 0BTC spent on marketing.
Even year later after deadline they didn't create mobile app, they didn't develop roulette, raffle using tokens, own slots,plinko, video poker and no signs of Poker mutliplier game

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