Do you guarantee delivery of a product or full refund? If not, you're breaking a hell of a lot of laws.
LOL, as if whatever laws you speak of are going to extend into Russia.
Topic: Bitfury-Metabank ASIC 120 Gh/s (my intermediary services) - page 2. (Read 4892 times)
LOL, as if whatever laws you speak of are going to extend into Russia.
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2) Send your package devices (for international mail). I can even disassemble and send to you in the form of separate fragments.
Hey Naima, is shipping (to Canada) included in the $5000 price? or additional?
here is work comes up on their order page:
Pre-order Bitfury ASIC
Satisfied by: 0 Gh / s
The deposit amount: 0.0000 BTC
The present value of gigahesh: $ 18 ($ 2,160 per 120 Gh / s) Add to pre-order
x 120 = 120 Gh / s Partial payments are not supported. gigaheshi score will be added to the operator on the next working day. 1. Bitcoin Payment Please send 17.0981 BTC on 13naazMJSMNJBB1Ecf7eYgSAZLKV3EwzXx 2. Payment fiatnymi money Translate 2160.00 $ ( 69357.60 RUB) on the exchange, and then send it to [email protected] the date and method of purchase, as well as a Bitcoin address. In the subject line write "Pre-order ASIC 13naazMJSMNJBB1Ecf7eYgSAZLKV3EwzXx". Purchased by MetaBank Bitcoins are collateral for pre-order at the conditions: 1. Bitcoin address must be unique and not previously used. 2. This email should arrive Bitcoins just bought on metabank.ru 3. At this address should not be spending operations (write-offs). Under these conditions, collateral Bitcoins are changing on the device immediately prior to shipment. Pledge is the entire amount sent to the exchange, with the exchange rate and commission Bitcoin exchanger does not matter. return on the purchased Bitcoins are stored you have not done. If you are unable to provide a safe long-term storage Bitcoins, you can use your address for storage MetaBank 13naazMJSMNJBB1Ecf7eYgSAZLKV3EwzXx.
The shadiness continues !
Pre-order Bitfury ASIC
Satisfied by: 0 Gh / s
The deposit amount: 0.0000 BTC
The present value of gigahesh: $ 18 ($ 2,160 per 120 Gh / s) Add to pre-order
x 120 = 120 Gh / s Partial payments are not supported. gigaheshi score will be added to the operator on the next working day. 1. Bitcoin Payment Please send 17.0981 BTC on 13naazMJSMNJBB1Ecf7eYgSAZLKV3EwzXx 2. Payment fiatnymi money Translate 2160.00 $ ( 69357.60 RUB) on the exchange, and then send it to [email protected] the date and method of purchase, as well as a Bitcoin address. In the subject line write "Pre-order ASIC 13naazMJSMNJBB1Ecf7eYgSAZLKV3EwzXx". Purchased by MetaBank Bitcoins are collateral for pre-order at the conditions: 1. Bitcoin address must be unique and not previously used. 2. This email should arrive Bitcoins just bought on metabank.ru 3. At this address should not be spending operations (write-offs). Under these conditions, collateral Bitcoins are changing on the device immediately prior to shipment. Pledge is the entire amount sent to the exchange, with the exchange rate and commission Bitcoin exchanger does not matter. return on the purchased Bitcoins are stored you have not done. If you are unable to provide a safe long-term storage Bitcoins, you can use your address for storage MetaBank 13naazMJSMNJBB1Ecf7eYgSAZLKV3EwzXx.
The shadiness continues !
profiteer 
I keep trying to add them to the chart, but as I look around all of their details seem strange.
Why is the first price always mentioned the $18/GH? The actual machine cost always looks like it was added as an afterthought.
The listed power consumption says .7W/GH. Wouldn't that be 1428 MH/W? That would be over 1400% higher than the others in the market. Again, difficult to find the actual spec here.
There was a warranty situation that was completely incredible. They say that since then lawyers have gotten involved and told them this was unreasonable. Now no protection is given to consumer.
They are taking money for preorders.
August is very soon to be putting out a miner that is so fast, cheap, and power saving. Everything seems too good to be true. They did have someone come in and say they've been working on it for a year already, though.
I can't add this manufacturer until some of these questions are answered. Even then the preorder status set to GOGOGO makes me question them. If you are the go between naima53, I would appreciate it.. otherwise I will try some google translator in a couple days
Why is the first price always mentioned the $18/GH? The actual machine cost always looks like it was added as an afterthought.
The listed power consumption says .7W/GH. Wouldn't that be 1428 MH/W? That would be over 1400% higher than the others in the market. Again, difficult to find the actual spec here.
There was a warranty situation that was completely incredible. They say that since then lawyers have gotten involved and told them this was unreasonable. Now no protection is given to consumer.
They are taking money for preorders.
August is very soon to be putting out a miner that is so fast, cheap, and power saving. Everything seems too good to be true. They did have someone come in and say they've been working on it for a year already, though.
I can't add this manufacturer until some of these questions are answered. Even then the preorder status set to GOGOGO makes me question them. If you are the go between naima53, I would appreciate it.. otherwise I will try some google translator in a couple days
It would be cheaper to fly over there and pick one up in person.
I'm ready to go to snuff this out... Forum?
I'm ready to go to snuff this out... Forum?
Well i may use this guy, a lot cheaper than you. All i see here is greed.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitfury-metabank-asic-preorder-intermediary-service-international-shipping-222494
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitfury-metabank-asic-preorder-intermediary-service-international-shipping-222494
Naima. Your offer is appreciated - however - the 2x price is excessive for posting equipment to outside of Russia.
Can you explain why 2x?
Do you guarantee delivery of a product or full refund? If not, you're breaking a hell of a lot of laws.
>Are you asking for immediate payment?
immediate I mean paying me. The deposit will be kept by me in Bitcoins. I can arrange that the pledge will be kept in your Wallet.
5k - expensive? Contact me to clarify what conditions. And please use easy English. Thank you.
FAQ
>you are charging $5000 total (~39 BTC) to buy and ship the ASIC to anywhere in the world?
YES
>Are you asking for immediate payment?
YES
>Do you know approximately how many units have already been ordered from Metabank?
NO, They shall not disclose such information
You should have read the FAQ before you post. https://metabank.ru/asic
Q: How will you ship to regions and other countries?
A: We will use verified courier services, not Russian post. There is no delivery to other countries.
That means they will not ship to outside of Russia.
This is the meaning of my proposal: You pay me the money, I order from them, get and send to you. Translate please, I will correct the headline.. Or I pay mined as dividends. And you can always pick up the devices. Quote
Кaк бyдeт ocyщecтвлятcя пocтaвкa в peгиoны? B дpyгиe cтpaны?
Пpoвepeнными кypьepcкими cлyжбaми (Пoчтa PФ иcключeнa).
B дpyгиe cтpaны ycтpoйcтвo нe пocтaвляeтcя.
Пpoвepeнными кypьepcкими cлyжбaми (Пoчтa PФ иcключeнa).
B дpyгиe cтpaны ycтpoйcтвo нe пocтaвляeтcя.
Q: How will you ship to regions and other countries?
A: We will use verified courier services, not Russian post. There is no delivery to other countries.
That means they will not ship to outside of Russia.
You should have read the FAQ before you post. https://metabank.ru/asic
Q: How will you ship to regions and other countries?
A: We will use verified courier services, not Russian post. There is no delivery to other countries.
That means they will not ship to outside of Russia.
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Кaк бyдeт ocyщecтвлятcя пocтaвкa в peгиoны? B дpyгиe cтpaны?
Пpoвepeнными кypьepcкими cлyжбaми (Пoчтa PФ иcключeнa).
B дpyгиe cтpaны ycтpoйcтвo нe пocтaвляeтcя.
Пpoвepeнными кypьepcкими cлyжбaми (Пoчтa PФ иcключeнa).
B дpyгиe cтpaны ycтpoйcтвo нe пocтaвляeтcя.
Q: How will you ship to regions and other countries?
A: We will use verified courier services, not Russian post. There is no delivery to other countries.
That means they will not ship to outside of Russia.
UPD 06-02-2013
OK, I'm willing to lower the price even if you order one piece is $ 4,000 and if you order 2 to 5 pcs(2,3,4) price $ 3,800 if you are ordering from 5 to 10 pcs(5,6,7,8,9,10) price of $ 3200 is final and will not be changed. The price is valid only if you come and collect in person. NO shipping. Or if you want me to keep them enabled in my house and pay you a profit from mining once a week minus my fee 7%. You just might change your mind, come and pick them up in person.
You need to understand, that MetaBank can fool me. In this case, I do not guarantee a refund. This exchanger there for about a year but I do not know anything about his honesty. They refused to make the contract, and said that it is at your own risk. But they provide a guarantee if I buy them Bitcoins, they kept me (bitcoins on my local machine). But I do not have a right to spend it. When they make the device, I'll have to send that amount Bitcoin them, in which case they will be given a device to me. It will have no effect on the court in the case of fraud. Because there is no contract with them. Russian court recognizes only the written paper contract. I can not sue the claim unit or refund at MetaBank, if they will take back my deposit but will not give me the device.
Sincerely, NaimaOnline
Hello! Sorry for the translation.
Today opened the process of receiving pre-orders in the company of MetaBank in Russia
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitfury-asic-65nm-183368
https://metabank.ru/asic
Just specify that it is a real 120Gh physical devices. At least they say.
According to them, devices will be available in Moscow in August-October.
I offer intermediary services for English-speaking users.
They provide a guarantee. To do this, there are 2 options (You can only select one):
1) You click on a link, letter arrives at your mail, you click on a link from a letter, you choose the number of pieces and pay the exact amount of Bitcoins. You can request a refund Bitcoins. Regardless of the exchange rate, this is exactly the number of Bitcoins you pay. BUT! This amount is always kept with them! (the risk of being hacked or something like that)
2) You click on a link, then buy them Bitcoins (these methods: wmr or wmz or qiwi or yad, bank transfer becomes available on Monday) paste your empty (no history) BTC-wallet in which they are enrolled paid Bitcoins to this address. Then send them a letter explaining that you want to spend these Bitcoins to pay Bitfuri and precise method by which you paid. These Bitcoins are stored in your wallet as collateral. When the devices are made, you send them the exact amount from the purse. And getting devices.
(oh my god, how difficult it is to translate)
I offer intermediary services for English-speaking users. (try it, if interesting)
Many of you will not want to go to Moscow to get the device. There will also be having problems with your order due to language difficulties. As well MetaBank has no service of world shipping. Only Russia.
I can provide a choice of either all at once::
1) Install them in my office and pay you profit from mining -15% -7% my fee.
2) Send your package devices (for international mail). I can even disassemble and send to you in the form of separate fragments.
3) You can always come to me and personally pick up from me in person already paid devices.
upd 4) World shiping are included, with guarantee "(second attempt another post in disassembled form, if you can prove that the parcel is not reached, for example, the track number is shown that, in addition to insurance package.)"
Frankly, I do not like the option to pledge when coins are on their website. I like the option where a charge will remain in my purse.
Attention! I have no idea about the intentions MetaBank, I can not guarantee their honesty, I do not take any responsibility for the risks associated with MetaBank, Bitfury, etc.. and other third parties. You invest at your own risk!
My price: more than double and equal $ 5,000 (five thousand dollars) per 120 Gh mining rig
In Bitcoins by exchange rate of MTGOX at the time of payment (please specify)
Or, if you selected a storage lien in my purse, then specify an e-currency in which you are willing to pay.
Please specify which method you would like to pledge that I would use when ordering. Also, the number of pieces. And other details.
Please contact me at [email protected] or PM
I apologize for the extra words, I have never engaged in similar business, suggestions and criticisms are welcome.
OK, I'm willing to lower the price even if you order one piece is $ 4,000 and if you order 2 to 5 pcs(2,3,4) price $ 3,800 if you are ordering from 5 to 10 pcs(5,6,7,8,9,10) price of $ 3200 is final and will not be changed. The price is valid only if you come and collect in person. NO shipping. Or if you want me to keep them enabled in my house and pay you a profit from mining once a week minus my fee 7%. You just might change your mind, come and pick them up in person.
You need to understand, that MetaBank can fool me. In this case, I do not guarantee a refund. This exchanger there for about a year but I do not know anything about his honesty. They refused to make the contract, and said that it is at your own risk. But they provide a guarantee if I buy them Bitcoins, they kept me (bitcoins on my local machine). But I do not have a right to spend it. When they make the device, I'll have to send that amount Bitcoin them, in which case they will be given a device to me. It will have no effect on the court in the case of fraud. Because there is no contract with them. Russian court recognizes only the written paper contract. I can not sue the claim unit or refund at MetaBank, if they will take back my deposit but will not give me the device.
Sincerely, NaimaOnline
Hello! Sorry for the translation.
Today opened the process of receiving pre-orders in the company of MetaBank in Russia
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitfury-asic-65nm-183368
https://metabank.ru/asic
Just specify that it is a real 120Gh physical devices. At least they say.
According to them, devices will be available in Moscow in August-October.
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Comrades miners! Finally have some free time that would make the announcement of the most technologically advanced ASIC at the moment.
Meet Bitfury ASIC
Technology: 65 nm
Capacity: at least 5 Gh / s per Chip
Consumption: 0.5 W at Gh, 0.7 W on the finished device
Terms of delivery: August 2013 (in the contract for the supply of specified October)
Price: $ 18 for gigahesh (until the actual engineering samples)
In February this year, a meeting with investors Bitfury (including metabank) and has been the start of a new generation of ASIC, with its unique design the chip, which is currently unmatched performance per watt of power, including the operation of the device allows without active cooling.
In March, the launch of an engineering-based factory UMC (Taiwan) in which the design of the chip was fully coordinated and approved by the experts of the factory.
In May, the plate will be obtained, and the first test chips are expected in June, but then we can talk about the final performance characteristics - perhaps as 10Gh on the chip.
We are announcing a willingness to sell part of its share of chips for pre-order and the further distribution of products Bitfury in Russia.
Conditions pre-order - online metabank.ru/asic
Meet Bitfury ASIC
Technology: 65 nm
Capacity: at least 5 Gh / s per Chip
Consumption: 0.5 W at Gh, 0.7 W on the finished device
Terms of delivery: August 2013 (in the contract for the supply of specified October)
Price: $ 18 for gigahesh (until the actual engineering samples)
In February this year, a meeting with investors Bitfury (including metabank) and has been the start of a new generation of ASIC, with its unique design the chip, which is currently unmatched performance per watt of power, including the operation of the device allows without active cooling.
In March, the launch of an engineering-based factory UMC (Taiwan) in which the design of the chip was fully coordinated and approved by the experts of the factory.
In May, the plate will be obtained, and the first test chips are expected in June, but then we can talk about the final performance characteristics - perhaps as 10Gh on the chip.
We are announcing a willingness to sell part of its share of chips for pre-order and the further distribution of products Bitfury in Russia.
Conditions pre-order - online metabank.ru/asic
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The present value of Gh: $ 18 ($ 2,160 per 120 Gh/s)
Add to pre-order x 120 = 120 Gh / s
Partial payments are not supported.
Sponsored Gh will be added by the operator on the next working day.
Add to pre-order x 120 = 120 Gh / s
Partial payments are not supported.
Sponsored Gh will be added by the operator on the next working day.
I offer intermediary services for English-speaking users.
They provide a guarantee. To do this, there are 2 options (You can only select one):
1) You click on a link, letter arrives at your mail, you click on a link from a letter, you choose the number of pieces and pay the exact amount of Bitcoins. You can request a refund Bitcoins. Regardless of the exchange rate, this is exactly the number of Bitcoins you pay. BUT! This amount is always kept with them! (the risk of being hacked or something like that)
2) You click on a link, then buy them Bitcoins (these methods: wmr or wmz or qiwi or yad, bank transfer becomes available on Monday) paste your empty (no history) BTC-wallet in which they are enrolled paid Bitcoins to this address. Then send them a letter explaining that you want to spend these Bitcoins to pay Bitfuri and precise method by which you paid. These Bitcoins are stored in your wallet as collateral. When the devices are made, you send them the exact amount from the purse. And getting devices.
(oh my god, how difficult it is to translate)
I offer intermediary services for English-speaking users. (try it, if interesting)
Many of you will not want to go to Moscow to get the device. There will also be having problems with your order due to language difficulties. As well MetaBank has no service of world shipping. Only Russia.
I can provide a choice of either all at once::
1) Install them in my office and pay you profit from mining -
2) Send your package devices (for international mail). I can even disassemble and send to you in the form of separate fragments.
3) You can always come to me and personally pick up from me in person already paid devices.
upd 4) World shiping are included, with guarantee "(second attempt another post in disassembled form, if you can prove that the parcel is not reached, for example, the track number is shown that, in addition to insurance package.)"
Frankly, I do not like the option to pledge when coins are on their website. I like the option where a charge will remain in my purse.
Attention! I have no idea about the intentions MetaBank, I can not guarantee their honesty, I do not take any responsibility for the risks associated with MetaBank, Bitfury, etc.. and other third parties. You invest at your own risk!
My price: more than double and equal $ 5,000 (five thousand dollars) per 120 Gh mining rig
In Bitcoins by exchange rate of MTGOX at the time of payment (please specify)
Or, if you selected a storage lien in my purse, then specify an e-currency in which you are willing to pay.
Please specify which method you would like to pledge that I would use when ordering. Also, the number of pieces. And other details.
Please contact me at [email protected] or PM
I apologize for the extra words, I have never engaged in similar business, suggestions and criticisms are welcome.
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