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Topic: Bitgrail situation (Read 293 times)

newbie
Activity: 2
Merit: 0
March 19, 2018, 02:02:45 PM
#11
1. I think you missed out the fact that bomber admitted he never ever check XRB balance until the very day he realize it is insolvent. It was said in his FAQ.

2. Also, never ever forget the fact that his shit exchange had triple deposits for ETH and LTC. Not sure if there are for other coins (no public user reports) but if ETH and LTC have them, high chance others coins gonna have triple deposits. Funny is how the hell he able to cover up triple deposits losses. The last I check bitgrail ETH wallet, it only has around 150 btc worth.

No one in the right mind will admit their own incompetency but from the above two cases, we can all see how he incompetent he is. Is a fact.

Then, don't forget the fact that despite his incompetency and negligible, he refuse to accept responsibility for the losses. Do you really know why he cannot admit all of that? By laws, he will be declared bankrupt and all his personal assets will be used to cover the losses. The law doesn't protect incompetency and negligible.


3. The bug at that time for Bittrex is sync issue, nothing more, nothing less.


It is not a fact that bomber dumped the Nano in procession, it is just a community assumptions, on the benefit of doubts that the losses shouldn't be that great. Also remember that fact that bomber once reported 25% Nano remains and then changed to 20%, there is really no reason to give him a benefit of doubt after that.

1. When that was?
2. I know about that and for how long that was happening?
3. Ye i know about that, so why they didn't list them then?

That's some poor's man questioning and out of context.

The sentence already explained everything you want to know.

That isn't the point. The point is that it happened and if you do not know, it happened during the Nano's ATH. For all we know, people might be buying huge amount of Nano with money that came out of thin air and caused the ATH. At that point of time, all the transactions records are already fucked up. Even binance who has competent team couldn't revert all the transactions for the phishing hack, they even have to absorb some of the cost for legit transactions. For bitgrail case, is not even a hack, you can't revert it because the sellers are all legit and at that time, there is a 10000 ETH spike in the wallet (I only checked ETH balance) which means the system can potentially credit 30000 ETH. You think bomber is rich enough to pay up all the legit transactions? I highly doubt.

Furthermore, it also show his incompetency as a programmer. Triple crediting, that is some messed up programming over there boy. If he can mess up such a thing, the same can be said of his understanding of how Node function thus he is pushing the blame on the Node while not admitting his incapability to understand things. Of course, if he do admit that, it would means admitting own negligence and that would means bankruptcy which involve liquidating personal assets.

As for Bittrex, how would I know. You trying hard to imply something you too have no answer too. You are very shady.
newbie
Activity: 2
Merit: 0
March 18, 2018, 12:23:45 PM
#10
I think you missed out the fact that bomber admitted he never ever check XRB balance until the very day he realize it is insolvent. It was said in his FAQ.

Also, never ever forget the fact that his shit exchange had triple deposits for ETH and LTC. Not sure if there are for other coins (no public user reports) but if ETH and LTC have them, high chance others coins gonna have triple deposits. Funny is how the hell he able to cover up triple deposits losses. The last I check bitgrail ETH wallet, it only has around 150 btc worth.

No one in the right mind will admit their own incompetency but from the above two cases, we can all see how he incompetent he is. Is a fact.

Then, don't forget the fact that despite his incompetency and negligible, he refuse to accept responsibility for the losses. Do you really know why he cannot admit all of that? By laws, he will be declared bankrupt and all his personal assets will be used to cover the losses. The law doesn't protect incompetency and negligible.


The bug at that time for Bittrex is sync issue, nothing more, nothing less.


It is not a fact that bomber dumped the Nano in procession, it is just a community assumptions, on the benefit of doubts that the losses shouldn't be that great. Also remember that fact that bomber once reported 25% Nano remains and then changed to 20%, there is really no reason to give him a benefit of doubt after that.
member
Activity: 140
Merit: 10
March 03, 2018, 11:32:21 AM
#9
https://mobile.twitter.com/bomberfrancy/status/969642468957450240
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Still working on. News asap. No change in our plan. Reopen is the priority

Reopen my foot, he might be the real face behind this so called hack. He should be aware of nano getting drained from the system long time ago but he claims he have no idea about that before a large number of nano got out of their wallet which can't be true. And there is no point for us to believe in him again after all this mishap.

On Reddit there is a subreddit about the insolvency. Good to see some people are at least taking legal action. Lets wait and see I guess the only thing we can do
member
Activity: 365
Merit: 14
March 03, 2018, 09:57:46 AM
#8
https://mobile.twitter.com/bomberfrancy/status/969642468957450240
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Still working on. News asap. No change in our plan. Reopen is the priority

Reopen my foot, he might be the real face behind this so called hack. He should be aware of nano getting drained from the system long time ago but he claims he have no idea about that before a large number of nano got out of their wallet which can't be true. And there is no point for us to believe in him again after all this mishap.

so, why not hiding somewhere with an hooker in one hand and a bottle of champagne in the other, with 180millions of anonymous cash?
legendary
Activity: 994
Merit: 1000
March 03, 2018, 08:54:08 AM
#7
https://mobile.twitter.com/bomberfrancy/status/969642468957450240
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Still working on. News asap. No change in our plan. Reopen is the priority

Reopen my foot, he might be the real face behind this so called hack. He should be aware of nano getting drained from the system long time ago but he claims he have no idea about that before a large number of nano got out of their wallet which can't be true. And there is no point for us to believe in him again after all this mishap.
member
Activity: 140
Merit: 10
March 02, 2018, 08:14:20 AM
#6
So far no updates, as far as I can see.
newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 0
February 26, 2018, 09:12:03 PM
#5
Your personal data can be processed, manually, electronically or via computer, directly by BitGrail or by third parties who, with suitable experience, technical skills, professionalism and reliability, carry out processing operations on behalf of our company; to offer a better service and guarantee maximum satisfaction of your needs, complying with the security and confidentiality of information.

The full, updated list of processors can be requested to BitGrail S.r.l., Via Pier Capponi, 89, 50132 Florence (FI), Italy.

https://bitgrail.com/privacy

Please, put the list here if some of letters has got answered, so we can ask for our account info from third party because asking Bitgrail directly may have a risk the Bomber delete or manipulate the data. Get your lawyer or legal witness then ask for how much you have in funds, so you really can claim it. Hopefully that is one of ways to do it.

Here is the terms of use. Does it free him just by say all is on the users risk?

https://bitgrail.com/terms
newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 0
February 26, 2018, 08:35:42 PM
#4
I am interested to get my currency back. I have no money pay to lawyers. Maybe should I report to local police and they can verify ungrounded accusions and lies from Bomber making him a suspect. Bomber has closed the reports but still it is possible to see wallet, so some witness with legal authority or police should notice that and share with international police.

Is it really okay that a criminal can make it legal to steal funds and say it is on our risk because all responsibility is cleared by some terms of use? If so then all psycho criminals accusing whatever can be freed because they claim all risk is on the users. Is it really legal to write such terms of use? That could be analyzed by authority.

It is of cource not possible to make a currency that opens an exchange for access from outside, so it must be an insider job!
It is a very clear point, that could be verified by some Nano devs. Then it also free the Nano team from Bombers groundless accusions. Bombers lies should be notified and police should ask Reddit why they have removed some posts from him.
member
Activity: 140
Merit: 10
February 26, 2018, 04:57:24 PM
#3
Anyone interested in starting a lawsuit, please contact me and we can see what steps to take.
legendary
Activity: 2758
Merit: 6830
February 20, 2018, 11:46:16 AM
#2
You can try to find some people in the BitGrail subreddit[1] and in this thread[2].

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/BitGrailExchange/
[2] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitgrail-treating-their-users-like-shit-1966566
member
Activity: 140
Merit: 10
February 20, 2018, 01:04:46 AM
#1
Dear members,

Unfortunately I am one of the victims of the BitGrail situation.

I was wondering if there are other victims who might be interested in getting a good lawyer and starting a lawsuit in Italy?

Does anyone know of any proceedings already going on?

Just starting this thread to see if there is any interest.
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