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August 11, 2021, 10:35:41 AM
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Do you believe that he exploited the game while OP is not providing any evidences for the accusation against him? If you are a gambler and you are accused to do such thing but the casino do not provide any evidences and do not try to resolve it as fast as possible, what will you do? We need to use our logic to see the whole issue from both parties (not from one side only).
Well, dude I try my best to side on people who is more powerless when there's no evidence for both sides to present themselves as what they claim they are. Of course we need to use logic but it's difficult to judge when both are unclear right?
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If you look the issue from the beginning, the site accused the player for doing exploit on the games but gives no evidences. Logically, the site should provide valid evidence for the accusation and the player will counter it with his own evidence. The fact, site did not provide evidences and even worst they delete all user's bet history. With this case, how can the player prove his innocence as what you say previously if he is not even able to see his own bets history? The only way to resolve this issue is, bithobo provide the bets history of this player along with its detailed information of each bet (such as server seed) then explain about how this player exploit it as they accused him.

That's true but I think the bithobo already deleted it and there's now way the user can prove his innocence I really don't think it's safe to play in bithobo. I tried to check the website to see if I can access it but it looks like i can't connect to the bithobo, looks like the owner abandoned now the website.

site can't be reached now. so they gave up already? if they totally abandon this site, then i guess, we have nothing to discuss anymore. just another bad day for those users who have funds from this site.


When they are doing something that will not hurt the general gambling community, but only one person that rarely gets enough attention, because it is just one person. Plus, when you are starting a casino, you do usually have 0.0007 which is basically nothing for a casino, why would they bother with "scamming" someone from that little amount of money? They must be making that daily, even if not that, they must be making that weekly at worst.

After all this is a casino and there are some people gambling here, makes no sense to scam people from such a small amount at the risk of never being liked by anyone ever again. This is why basically we should be focusing on the fact that this place did not do this to many people, they did it to just one person, and nobody else ever had a complaint about this place before or after. If this goes on, then we could maybe start to really doubt them.

the amount involved is only small, and they should have resolved it fast and fair. however, what they did was delete the history for the reason that they updated the system. and now, it seems they are totally gone. i don't think they got a lot here.
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If you look the issue from the beginning, the site accused the player for doing exploit on the games but gives no evidences. Logically, the site should provide valid evidence for the accusation and the player will counter it with his own evidence. The fact, site did not provide evidences and even worst they delete all user's bet history. With this case, how can the player prove his innocence as what you say previously if he is not even able to see his own bets history? The only way to resolve this issue is, bithobo provide the bets history of this player along with its detailed information of each bet (such as server seed) then explain about how this player exploit it as they accused him.
That's true but I think the bithobo already deleted it and there's now way the user can prove his innocence I really don't think it's safe to play in bithobo. I tried to check the website to see if I can access it but it looks like i can't connect to the bithobo, looks like the owner abandoned now the website.
When they are doing something that will not hurt the general gambling community, but only one person that rarely gets enough attention, because it is just one person. Plus, when you are starting a casino, you do usually have 0.0007 which is basically nothing for a casino, why would they bother with "scamming" someone from that little amount of money? They must be making that daily, even if not that, they must be making that weekly at worst.

After all this is a casino and there are some people gambling here, makes no sense to scam people from such a small amount at the risk of never being liked by anyone ever again. This is why basically we should be focusing on the fact that this place did not do this to many people, they did it to just one person, and nobody else ever had a complaint about this place before or after. If this goes on, then we could maybe start to really doubt them.
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If you look the issue from the beginning, the site accused the player for doing exploit on the games but gives no evidences. Logically, the site should provide valid evidence for the accusation and the player will counter it with his own evidence. The fact, site did not provide evidences and even worst they delete all user's bet history. With this case, how can the player prove his innocence as what you say previously if he is not even able to see his own bets history? The only way to resolve this issue is, bithobo provide the bets history of this player along with its detailed information of each bet (such as server seed) then explain about how this player exploit it as they accused him.

That's true but I think the bithobo already deleted it and there's now way the user can prove his innocence I really don't think it's safe to play in bithobo. I tried to check the website to see if I can access it but it looks like i can't connect to the bithobo, looks like the owner abandoned now the website.
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Do you believe that he exploited the game while OP is not providing any evidences for the accusation against him? If you are a gambler and you are accused to do such thing but the casino do not provide any evidences and do not try to resolve it as fast as possible, what will you do? We need to use our logic to see the whole issue from both parties (not from one side only).
Well, dude I try my best to side on people who is more powerless when there's no evidence for both sides to present themselves as what they claim they are. Of course we need to use logic but it's difficult to judge when both are unclear right?

If you look the issue from the beginning, the site accused the player for doing exploit on the games but gives no evidences. Logically, the site should provide valid evidence for the accusation and the player will counter it with his own evidence. The fact, site did not provide evidences and even worst they delete all user's bet history. With this case, how can the player prove his innocence as what you say previously if he is not even able to see his own bets history? The only way to resolve this issue is, bithobo provide the bets history of this player along with its detailed information of each bet (such as server seed) then explain about how this player exploit it as they accused him.
legendary
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Can someone confirm that the site is unavailable? Did the guy really run away with my $50 deposit??
I tried to open and play on it but I think it's still down up to now, the OP was active last 3 days ago. Probably just a problem or he really do run away with your deposit, we're not sure. That's why I don't trust new opened casino/gambling site there will be some instances like this that will happen.
If it is simply just a technical issue then they should be able to communicate that with the players, I do not follow them on twitter or anywhere else, I just saw them here and that's all. I do not know what I should feel about this but I feel like I am thankful I lost all my money I deposited here, it was already chump change and nothing big so I wouldn't be feeling horrible about it now, and I do not particularly like losing my money neither while gambling but considering if I won and had more then I would be very upset that it is not connecting and we are not seeing the website and there is no news about it anywhere neither.

I am not saying that they stole everyone's money and left, because they may have just faced a problem and fixing it, but the "wrong" part about what they are doing is the fact that they should be telling these to people here as well.
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I would like to test this dream catcher game since its provably fair game but according to what I have read there's still some accusation problem about withdrawal and as I can see it's just a small amount and the OP can't pay it. Maybe I should just wait before this was fixed and after that maybe I could deposit.
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I like this idea.

Dream catcher is one of my favourite games and it is great to be able to see it in provably fair mode.

It would be an absolute shame if OP decided to pull an exit scam, though. Site doesn't seem to be working at the moment which is certainly not encouraging signs. Hopefully hauzenberg is able to withdraw their funds and it turned out that the site was just in unplanned maintenance, though this is becoming increasingly unlikely.
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Do you believe that he exploited the game while OP is not providing any evidences for the accusation against him? If you are a gambler and you are accused to do such thing but the casino do not provide any evidences and do not try to resolve it as fast as possible, what will you do? We need to use our logic to see the whole issue from both parties (not from one side only).

Bitinity is right! I would like to see OP providing some evidence first, you can't accuse someone and halt the withdrawal just because that person won!


Yes, it's still stuck.



It's just 0.0007 BTC... and I think it's possible to do it with 30 bets at 86% to win, with a bit of luck and few risky all-ins! What we need to see is his betting history and from that, we can draw some conclusions! Like some members above, I also think that it would be stupid for a casino to risk its reputation for this little amount! But I guess it's not possible to take a screenshot of that bet history now when the site is down!
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Can someone confirm that the site is unavailable? Did the guy really run away with my $50 deposit??
You need to prove your innocence, you've been accused that you have exploited their game so it's going to be difficult for you to get your money back unless you give a proof of innocence and if they're willing to pay back if it's verified.

Do you believe that he exploited the game while OP is not providing any evidences for the accusation against him? If you are a gambler and you are accused to do such thing but the casino do not provide any evidences and do not try to resolve it as fast as possible, what will you do? We need to use our logic to see the whole issue from both parties (not from one side only).
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What happened to OP ? 2 weeks that has not visiting their thread here but going online at least 4 days ago .

maybe He's tired answering questions here lol.

Can someone confirm that the site is unavailable? Did the guy really run away with my $50 deposit??
You need to prove your innocence, you've been accused that you have exploited their game so it's going to be difficult for you to get your money back unless you give a proof of innocence and if they're willing to pay back if it's verified.
for 50 dollars they will risk the casino ? i think this is not believable .
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Can someone confirm that the site is unavailable? Did the guy really run away with my $50 deposit??
In the opening of this thread it says the site was live but after I check it now the site was unreachable .
maybe you could wait a little more and see if the op responds here so that we will know the whole story . this is why I never deposit bigger amounts like 50 dollars to the site that is still new .
They have created a giveaway thread and it was also stated in the op , you could have applied for that for the purpose of testing the site if things run smoothly .
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Can someone confirm that the site is unavailable? Did the guy really run away with my $50 deposit??
You need to prove your innocence, you've been accused that you have exploited their game so it's going to be difficult for you to get your money back unless you give a proof of innocence and if they're willing to pay back if it's verified.
hero member
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Can someone confirm that the site is unavailable? Did the guy really run away with my $50 deposit??
It's not fair to believe in new casino sites like this there is no guarantee of this and the gamblers are the losers when they run away after depositing the money you can't do anything without talking to them until their swings are active. The amount of submission is not too much so from now on you should practice well before submitting to any site.
legendary
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Can someone confirm that the site is unavailable? Did the guy really run away with my $50 deposit??

Yes it is down here and it should be down for everyone based on https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/bithobo.com
It has been more than a week since you got your issue related to your withdrawal and their claim that you exploit their game without valid evidences unfortunately.
Lets wait for more few days, if the site is not coming back without any updates from the OP in this thread then I think you have no chances to get your deposited money back.
It is obviously bad as they are new site but seems to be irresponsible for a case worth less than $100.
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Can someone confirm that the site is unavailable? Did the guy really run away with my $50 deposit??

I tried to open and play on it but I think it's still down up to now, the OP was active last 3 days ago. Probably just a problem or he really do run away with your deposit, we're not sure. That's why I don't trust new opened casino/gambling site there will be some instances like this that will happen.
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The site is fast now, I was able to create an account on the site and made my first deposits I will wait for my deposit to reflect to know how much I will receive in the bonus account.
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Can someone confirm that the site is unavailable? Did the guy really run away with my $50 deposit??
legendary
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The chat crowded by users come from bitcointalk and asking the bonus, I just confused, does if he makes the bonus offers for the members?.

and what happens to your server was briefly exposed?, this means your site is very vulnerable. you can blame the customer if frequently happen or you could blame the server also if the user has the big win.

~if I support the motion that they can have a faucet for players to try the roulette and thus trust when making the deposit.
I have suggested before because the website can play with minimum if he makes the faucet such as 1 satoshi for a day or hour it could make people come every day to try his luck.
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No more follow up action from bithobo after you replied to their email? It does not look good for a brand new gambling site in resolving issue and it will affect their potential players from this forum (if any). I cant see enough activity on the website (no one is playing) although they have done some giveaway in this forum. I would recommend everyone not to deposit in this site till this issue is resolved.

No, I did not reply them on the email, I respond on the mail here publicly in the thread. Thing like this should be publicly solved for them to gain trust.

the amount involved is not that much. so i hope the bithobo team will resolve this fair and square. it's been taking so long just to close this case. so yeah, it is not a very good idea to play on a site which can't resolve small issues in prompt manner. if they are just looking for some loopholes not to pay the user, then that's not a very good approach as they are just starting. if they haven't find any strong evidence against the player, better send back his funds and move on. otherwise, this issue will drag them all throughout their journey in this gambling market
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