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legendary
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Does anybody even use Facebook anymore? (At least among the crypto population)
examplens is obviously using it Cheesy
I think that Instagram has the same owners as facebook, and they are known for privacy violations.
Most crypto oriented people this days are probably hanging on twitter and nostr this days.

Some time ago, a project I was involved in required knowledge of FB ads, so I was forced to familiarize myself with it.
Seen from the point of view of promotion, I often got better results from FB posts compared to Twitter, at least when it comes to ordinary users, not influencers or big accounts. I am referring to crypto things.
I would not ignore the potential of promotion on social networks, regardless of whether we think that no one uses it.
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 7064
Does anybody even use Facebook anymore? (At least among the crypto population)
examplens is obviously using it Cheesy
I think that Instagram has the same owners as facebook, and they are known for privacy violations.
Most crypto oriented people this days are probably hanging on twitter and nostr this days.
legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 6660
bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
@icopress, A suggestion for you. You should implement some social media add-ons on this platform. I tried to share the website link on FB and X (formerly Twitter) and the post only contained the link, without any tags or description.
For example Twitter https://developer.x.com/en/docs/x-for-websites/cards/overview/abouts-cards
Or Fb https://developers.facebook.com/docs/sharing/webmasters/images/

Does anybody even use Facebook anymore? (At least among the crypto population)
legendary
Activity: 3416
Merit: 3419
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@icopress, A suggestion for you. You should implement some social media add-ons on this platform. I tried to share the website link on FB and X (formerly Twitter) and the post only contained the link, without any tags or description.
For example Twitter https://developer.x.com/en/docs/x-for-websites/cards/overview/abouts-cards
Or Fb https://developers.facebook.com/docs/sharing/webmasters/images/
hero member
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copper member
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 Smiley Good afternoon, we would like to see ourselves in this list, we are working for the second month without any complaints and have not a small deposit, as well as the administration of the project is not anonymous (we plan to do an official registration)!
jr. member
Activity: 29
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Hello,

Just stumble upon your website today. Thank you for listing us!
I wanted to correct that we (servers.guru) do have a tor onion link which is : srvguru7bjzzjba7xy2hnx2ju4k77qy4eum2h3tgudwc3j2zof4aggyd.onion

Would be great if it could be corrected!

Thank you.
copper member
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@icopress I am just curious how to add more website on your site and what is the requirement

I been using services like Vultr VPS and Surfhsark VPN and I usually pay it using crypto as far as I know they didn't require KYC so are two of them eligible to get on your list
legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 6660
bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
@icopress Your images for freebitcoin and roobet are broken.
legendary
Activity: 2212
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I have used SolCard to pay for a Hulu subscription and some other things and haven’t had any issues. They are partnered with Alchemy Pay so if you’ve used cards from another Alchemy Pay partner, like Bit.Store, you will notice they work similarly.
I used Bit.store cards before and they worked (mostly) fine but I had some issues with them and I lost some money because they canceled one of my cards and I was not able to receive refund for my purchase.
They also changed a lot of thing recently and they added more restrictions for some websites.
Do you know what is the difference between SolCard and Bit.Store, if there is any?  

There should not be a problem when  P2P trading though, especially when the buyer is sending your cash from inside he same country and it's a small amount - no more than a few hundred dollars, because such transactions are pretty normal from the bank's point of view.
Like I said, it should not a problem if this doesn't happen often, but they can always find some connection with Bitcoin and flag your bank account.
legendary
Activity: 1568
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bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
It's not going to be a big problem if you are buying bitcoin like this once or twice, but bank can always mark this transactions as suspicious and ask you to provide more information what you are purchasing exactly.
It would be interesting to see what this payments are registered like in bank statements.

There should not be a problem when  P2P trading though, especially when the buyer is sending your cash from inside he same country and it's a small amount - no more than a few hundred dollars, because such transactions are pretty normal from the bank's point of view.

What you don't want to do is make so many trades with the same bank that it starts to get suspicious with all these wires coming all of a sudden. I like to use an interval of at least once a month because that aligns with people's paydays.
sr. member
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You could add PST.net for virtual cards
Concerning SolCard, I'm not sure about it, the website, the telegram, the team, everything looks like a scam
I was looking at paywithus.net, you can add the kycfree tag, they don't ask for KYC according to the FAQ

I have used SolCard to pay for a Hulu subscription and some other things and haven’t had any issues. They are partnered with Alchemy Pay so if you’ve used cards from another Alchemy Pay partner, like Bit.Store, you will notice they work similarly. There are things which I don’t like, like the fees and the amount of restricted merchants. Their telegram is full of people shilling the Solcard token, but I won’t go as far as calling them a scam. I have ignored the token completely and only care about the card, which has worked well enough for me, although I will probably try something else once my balance is depleted.
newbie
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You could add PST.net for virtual cards
Concerning SolCard, I'm not sure about it, the website, the telegram, the team, everything looks like a scam
I was looking at paywithus.net, you can add the kycfree tag, they don't ask for KYC according to the FAQ
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 4711
**In BTC since 2013**
It's not going to be a big problem if you are buying bitcoin like this once or twice, but bank can always mark this transactions as suspicious and ask you to provide more information what you are purchasing exactly.
It would be interesting to see what this payments are registered like in bank statements.

According to feedback from other customers (I haven't had the opportunity to use it yet), it is registered as a purchase of "computer consultancy" or something similar.
In the next few days, I'm planning to make a purchase and then share it here.  Wink
legendary
Activity: 2212
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I say it is not KYC, because the service does not require this information, and furthermore, your bank does not know that you purchased BTC. And from what I know, from what I've already spoken to some of the project's developers, they don't record any information. Now, I can't give 100% guarantees, I'm just sharing the information I have.
It's not going to be a big problem if you are buying bitcoin like this once or twice, but bank can always mark this transactions as suspicious and ask you to provide more information what you are purchasing exactly.
It would be interesting to see what this payments are registered like in bank statements.
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 4711
**In BTC since 2013**
Simply choose a voucher, indicate the LN address, and pay with your credit card. The movement is registered at the bank, like IT services or something like that.
Can we use debit cards for purchase also or only credit cards?
It's knot really purchase without KYC if you have to leave digital trail with your real name and details from bank account.
Some virtual debit cards can still work without real personal information.

I think you can use any card, as they even accept Google Pay.

I say it is not KYC, because the service does not require this information, and furthermore, your bank does not know that you purchased BTC. And from what I know, from what I've already spoken to some of the project's developers, they don't record any information. Now, I can't give 100% guarantees, I'm just sharing the information I have.

legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 7064
Simply choose a voucher, indicate the LN address, and pay with your credit card. The movement is registered at the bank, like IT services or something like that.
Can we use debit cards for purchase also or only credit cards?
It's knot really purchase without KYC if you have to leave digital trail with your real name and details from bank account.
Some virtual debit cards can still work without real personal information.
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 4711
**In BTC since 2013**
Here is a service to buy BTC via LN, without KYC:
https://maxfy.maximacitadel.org/

Simply choose a voucher, indicate the LN address, and pay with your credit card. The movement is registered at the bank, like IT services or something like that.
sr. member
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For me this would still qualify it as being KYC free.
You are wrong, that is why privacy can still exist even when someone is using email address without revealing any other personal information.
As long as they don't ask for any additional details from customers than this card remains non-kyc.
If you are so concerned than create brand new email address for this purpose only.

I think you are agreeing with my point because I said it is still KYC free since only a valid email is required. They do ask for a name when you register but you can make up something random. Using a unique alias email is definitely recommended for maximum privacy.
legendary
Activity: 2212
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For me this would still qualify it as being KYC free.
You are wrong, that is why privacy can still exist even when someone is using email address without revealing any other personal information.
As long as they don't ask for any additional details from customers than this card remains non-kyc.
If you are so concerned than create brand new email address for this purpose only.
sr. member
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I dropped by the BitList website thinking of the keyword "curated" and the hashtag "kycfree". I thought the sites, services, and products listed there are all KYC-free. I found out the site lists all of them, KYC and non-KYC alike, or am I mistaken?

Anyway, I found out that BitList has only SolCard and Stealths labeled as kycfree. Apparently, however, SolCard isn't. Stealths is indeed KYC-free though.

PayWithUs, on the other hand, isn't labeled KYC-free but it has been promoting its product as KYC-free. As a matter of fact, it highlights, even banners, this specific feature. Even in their FAQ, they emphasized that "PayWithUs Cards prioritizes your privacy" and that KYC "procedures are not required to obtain a card." However, this is misleading as their privacy policy provides that "you agree to the collection and use of your personal information".

SolCard does not require KYC unless you want to raise your spending limits above $10,000 per month.

The PayWithUs policy also says "The sole personal information we collect is your email address”. For me this would still qualify it as being KYC free.
legendary
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I dropped by the BitList website thinking of the keyword "curated" and the hashtag "kycfree". I thought the sites, services, and products listed there are all KYC-free. I found out the site lists all of them, KYC and non-KYC alike, or am I mistaken?

Anyway, I found out that BitList has only SolCard and Stealths labeled as kycfree. Apparently, however, SolCard isn't. Stealths is indeed KYC-free though.

PayWithUs, on the other hand, isn't labeled KYC-free but it has been promoting its product as KYC-free. As a matter of fact, it highlights, even banners, this specific feature. Even in their FAQ, they emphasized that "PayWithUs Cards prioritizes your privacy" and that KYC "procedures are not required to obtain a card." However, this is misleading as their privacy policy provides that "you agree to the collection and use of your personal information".
hero member
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I tried to use your website to search for Cards with out Know Your Customer, but with Java Script disabled I could not click the 'Debit Cards' tab.  In fact, I can not click any of the tabs at all since I believe they are Java Script related.  My suggestion would be to turn them into clickable links or add a small 'pop up' icon next to them for us who do not use Java Script at all.  But I am no Web Developer, so take this advice as it is.  Anyway, this is a great idea that you had to launch BitList!
copper member
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Cypher card

Website -  https://cypherhq.io/card

Tags - worldwide

Fees - None
Production cost - None
Accepts - A number of cryptocurrencies
KYC - Yes
ATM withdrawal - Not sure

Bad points
1. They have issues with mobile number verification, so have to increase the card balance limit.
2. Very slow support due to very few stuff members.

I have used this card to transact only small amounts
newbie
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Some small notes.

Xeovo VPN launched on 2016. They also accept LTC.
legendary
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Icopress consider adding tag information if crypto cards are virtual, physical or both.
In our region many people who used Binance card switched to Trusteeglobal.eu, they have mandatory kyc for Trustee virtual card, and I think that owner is from Ukraine.
I know several other cards that are missing from Bitlist, one of them is from Bit.store that has virtual no-kyc and physical kyc card.
Noones.com also has virtual visa card, and Gnosispay.com is only card in the world that is self-custodial.
Trocador.app have very good non-kyc prepaid cards, and I should also mention Bitrefill.com crypto card.
legendary
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Changelog

Code:
07-Jul-24: Added Stealths, Bitcoindata.science, Updated BitList (wiki.bitlist.co), Tested (Thormixer, RoyalMix)

Would be good if you list my service as well: wasabist.io
Thx. I'll take a look at it and maybe add it later.
newbie
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Merit: 29
Changelog

Code:
29-Jun-24: Added RoyalMix, GingerWallet, BitMixList, Wabisator

Thank you all for your feedback, I have written down a lot of what you mentioned and will be done/updated within a week.

I really like the wiki. Do you plan to continue to extend it? https://docs.bitlist.co/docs
I think it's really good, but perhaps some of the articles could be fleshed out a little. (When I have time I could post some proposals in this thread if you're ok.)
Yes, the information in the "Tutorial" section will be added, and I will be happy to add additional content if you decide to devote a little time to this.
Would be good if you list my service as well: wasabist.io
legendary
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Merit: 5874
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Changelog

Code:
29-Jun-24: Added RoyalMix, GingerWallet, BitMixList, Wabisator

Thank you all for your feedback, I have written down a lot of what you mentioned and will be done/updated within a week.

I really like the wiki. Do you plan to continue to extend it? https://docs.bitlist.co/docs
I think it's really good, but perhaps some of the articles could be fleshed out a little. (When I have time I could post some proposals in this thread if you're ok.)
Yes, the information in the "Tutorial" section will be added, and I will be happy to add additional content if you decide to devote a little time to this.
legendary
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Quick question: how is the AML rating (for mixers) determined? Is there a way for users to provide such rating, or is it down to BitList operator(s) to test and rate it? And what does it actually mean?


I don't have too much time right now, but in general, yes... any reliable user can test any service and a rating will be assigned based on his assessment (AML bot). For example, the Mixtum rating was based on a public review (you can follow the link). And the rest of the mixers were assigned a rating by default since they were built like Mixtum on the Jambler platform, as a result there was no need for re-test.

Thanks for your feedback! Added to the to-do list!

Nice website!

The list of exchanges is exaustive, which is cool.

I really like the wiki. Do you plan to continue to extend it? https://docs.bitlist.co/docs
I think it's really good, but perhaps some of the articles could be fleshed out a little. (When I have time I could post some proposals in this thread if you're ok.)

Do you think to offer an onion address to BitList.co?

Another (small) detail, I think a "kycfree" filter at the top would be a positive thing to have from an ergonomic point of view. I'm talking about a button with an effect on all tabs, because at the moment when you search the list for a kyc-free service to activate the filter by clicking on it, you lose it when you change tabs.



May I ask if you plan to add Stealths? https://stealths.net/
Using for some time now, very nice, unfortunately it is limited to online purchase or Google Wallet/ApplePay for IRL payments, but I never had any issue in EU with their Mastercard for now, and was never asked to do KYC (still a risk because of third party "myprepaidcenter").





Just in case you missed it, they operate in EU too.  



Nice list @icopress, I have to admit it's nice to have all the essential services related to cryptocurrencies in one place. I noticed only one small bug in the display of one of the mixer's names (Cmize), it is written twice and overlaps (at least that's how it is for me - Tor).
While we are at the initial stage of development .. we plan to expand to Product Hunt and add more profile tabs (for example, a list of cold wallets). There is an idea of ​​adding widgets, but I have not yet formed an idea of ​​what it should look like.

Great compilation icopress, it is great to have websites like these, so as to be able to link them to newbies who are looking for kyc free services. I have bookmarked your website and i'd surely use it for such purpose from now on.
I hope I won't disappoint you! At the very least, the absence of banner advertising should please you for a very long time.

hero member
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The information available on the website is quite helpful for the community, including information about casinos which include top sites that carry out promotions on the Bitcointalk forum.

Maybe to spread the word about Bitlist widely. Does Bitlist have an X account and do you plan to create an X account, TikTok or Facebook. Maybe it's useful for outside community or they those who are not active on bitcointalk.
legendary
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Really nice and useful website.
I didn't have a clue it existed until Skarais posted a link to its signature campaign topic.
I've bookmarked it and added link to the campaign in the non-profit campaigns overview

Quick question: how is the AML rating (for mixers) determined? Is there a way for users to provide such rating, or is it down to BitList operator(s) to test and rate it? And what does it actually mean?

hero member
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Nice website!

The list of exchanges is exaustive, which is cool.

I really like the wiki. Do you plan to continue to extend it? https://docs.bitlist.co/docs
I think it's really good, but perhaps some of the articles could be fleshed out a little. (When I have time I could post some proposals in this thread if you're ok.)

Do you think to offer an onion address to BitList.co?

Another (small) detail, I think a "kycfree" filter at the top would be a positive thing to have from an ergonomic point of view. I'm talking about a button with an effect on all tabs, because at the moment when you search the list for a kyc-free service to activate the filter by clicking on it, you lose it when you change tabs.



May I ask if you plan to add Stealths? https://stealths.net/
Using for some time now, very nice, unfortunately it is limited to online purchase or Google Wallet/ApplePay for IRL payments, but I never had any issue in EU with their Mastercard for now, and was never asked to do KYC (still a risk because of third party "myprepaidcenter").





Just in case you missed it, they operate in EU too. 

copper member
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But you're not supposed to use Robosats in clearnet. They even went as far as to discourage people from using it when you open it in the browser.
I just stumbled across another part of the website, and I think they are trying to do better - https://learn.robosats.com, which loads OK and has valuable information about Robosats. It seems they intentionally disabled it from loading in normal browsers. When you visit the same domain using Tor browser, you are automatically redirected to the official onion link.
hero member
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Great compilation icopress, it is great to have websites like these, so as to be able to link them to newbies who are looking for kyc free services. I have bookmarked your website and i'd surely use it for such purpose from now on.
As for Agora... their site will remain on the list for some time, since their presence clearly shows how a disabled site is displayed in the list.
I understand, but i think it should not remain in the list for a long time.
legendary
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Nice list @icopress, I have to admit it's nice to have all the essential services related to cryptocurrencies in one place. I noticed only one small bug in the display of one of the mixer's names (Cmize), it is written twice and overlaps (at least that's how it is for me - Tor).
legendary
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bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
Robosats seems to have an on and off clearnet site, but the onion link works, though sometimes it takes a while to load. Currently, the onion link works, but according to the list. It's stated as offline.

But you're not supposed to use Robosats in clearnet. They even went as far as to discourage people from using it when you open it in the browser.
legendary
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icopress I think you should remove services that shut down permanently, instead of adding Offline status, for example Tengri and AgoraDesk.
LocalMonero is showing Online status on Bitlist but they are also shutting down like sister company AgoraDesk.
I would also add more virtual debit cards that can work without kyc, but I know collecting all this information is not that easy.
legendary
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Do you check them up manually, or everything is automatic? Sorry for the questions, I don't know so much about the technical bit of web designing.
Parsing occurs automatically several times a day.

Robosats seems to have an on and off clearnet site, but the onion link works, though sometimes it takes a while to load. Currently, the onion link works, but according to the list. It's stated as offline.
Do you think it would be worth it, having a slot for an online/offline clearnet and Tor mirror status for each service, if this is easily achievable through automation?
Thanks for the comment! Added to task list!

Honored to be featured - appreciate you, ico!  Smiley
Welcome aboard!

Nice work with the website icopress!

Perhaps you could add some more information about individual sites. For instance, Peach Bitcoin is a no KYC exchange, but only for daily trades of up to 1000CHF. If you try to exchange more than that, you will have to undergo KYC.

What's the status of Hodlhodl and Godex? They neither have a no KYC nor KYC tag on your website. I know that Hodlhodl can request KYC if they find you or your coins suspicious for any reason.
I am aware of this limitation. These restrictions are due to the fact that the Swiss license imposes such restrictions. I won't add a notice right now, but maybe I'll do it later (I'm a little busy with other things right now). Regarding the Hodlhodl and Godex tags... that will be updated soon.
legendary
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Nice work with the website icopress!

Perhaps you could add some more information about individual sites. For instance, Peach Bitcoin is a no KYC exchange, but only for daily trades of up to 1000CHF. If you try to exchange more than that, you will have to undergo KYC.

What's the status of Hodlhodl and Godex? They neither have a no KYC nor KYC tag on your website. I know that Hodlhodl can request KYC if they find you or your coins suspicious for any reason.
legendary
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Honored to be featured - appreciate you, ico!  Smiley
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I'll think about mirrors a little later.

As for Agora... their site will remain on the list for some time, since their presence clearly shows how a disabled site is displayed in the list.
Thanks for the clarification.

What does your site base on to determine if the site is offline or not (is it through the clearnet domain or Onion? Or both?)
Do you check them up manually, or everything is automatic? Sorry for the questions, I don't know so much about the technical bit of web designing.

Robosats seems to have an on and off clearnet site, but the onion link works, though sometimes it takes a while to load. Currently, the onion link works, but according to the list. It's stated as offline.
Do you think it would be worth it, having a slot for an online/offline clearnet and Tor mirror status for each service, if this is easily achievable through automation?



legendary
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Why did you remove Wasabi?
I replied to you in PM

icopress, the link to the website [BiList Homepage] is not good, it goes to bitcointalk.org. Also, the link behind [Reserve] leads to bitcointalk. I guess it's not beta anymore, I see that everything is well-linked on the Altt forum.
This has been corrected.. as for the reserve, I had something in mind and decided to reserve a place (will change soon).
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Why did you remove Wasabi?
legendary
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icopress, the link to the website [BiList Homepage] is not good, it goes to bitcointalk.org. Also, the link behind [Reserve] leads to bitcointalk. I guess it's not beta anymore, I see that everything is well-linked on the Altt forum.

legendary
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I'll think about mirrors a little later.

As for Agora... their site will remain on the list for some time, since their presence clearly shows how a disabled site is displayed in the list.
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@icopress with Agoradesk and winding down. I think It would be better to remove them off the list. Trading on both platforms was disabled May 14th, 2024. Anyway, great job with the website.

I have a feeling your site might also get a DDoS attack at one point, like it happened to some other similar sites a while back. Any plan for other clearnet and Tor Mirrors?
legendary
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jr. member
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privacy-focused Bitcoin wallet


Not true. Wasabi funds BC analysis and works with law enforcement.



which means you have full control over the software you manage your money with.


Also not true. Wasabi will censor your coins if BC analysis tells them to.


Better using an open source wallet that does not fund BC analysis and does not censor. Sparrow wallet is good choice.
legendary
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Using an outdated thread
legendary
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