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Topic: Bitmain New Miner S7-LN 2.7T @697W discussion (Not official) - page 11. (Read 23303 times)

sr. member
Activity: 434
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Heck, I might buy one so I can put the PSU in a big desktop and run it on something that'll actually hold up. Maybe play with undervolting and see what it can do.

If it's half the hashes and half the price including the PSU, just think how much profit they're still milking off the full-size S7. And just think how much profit they'd have been milking when the originals sold for four times the current pricetag. If nothing else, it's useful for that slap in the face.

The price doubling after the halving doesn't make a whole lot of sense since the price would be based on availability, and the halving only affects new coins - most of the coins to ever exist are already in circulation so the halving doesn't have that much of an effect on overall supply.

I only say it will double because A. it will nearly have to in order for ANY miners to profit, no matter how large or small of an operation.

B. the last and only time it halved the price shot through the roof, and there's only more backing for it now.

I think they came out with this to hedge against the halving, to get more people mining.

the price went down after the ½ last time and   the diff dropped a bit.   then 3 or 4 adjustments  later we upswung in price.

Topping out in April 2013  at 240 usd  then a crash.  I would argue asics boosted price along with the ½ing.

But now we do not have something 10x the efficiency  like asics were to gpus

True, but remember it wasn't decades ago that we were at $700-$1100. I mean, look at whats happened the past year! We're up twice as much as we were! The point where we're at now could just be a year and a half "down-ish swing", and the when it halves it could easily double in price, which would keep miners profitable and keep the network alive.

Either way I'm waiting a month or so after the halving for the dust to settle and see where we're at. Only at that point will I consider setting up a decent mining operation.
legendary
Activity: 4326
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'The right to privacy matters'
Any idea if this miner will run a little quieter then the original S7?

yes I think I saw a db number a little lower then the s-7.
legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 1723
Any idea if this miner will run a little quieter then the original S7?
legendary
Activity: 4326
Merit: 8950
'The right to privacy matters'
Heck, I might buy one so I can put the PSU in a big desktop and run it on something that'll actually hold up. Maybe play with undervolting and see what it can do.

If it's half the hashes and half the price including the PSU, just think how much profit they're still milking off the full-size S7. And just think how much profit they'd have been milking when the originals sold for four times the current pricetag. If nothing else, it's useful for that slap in the face.

The price doubling after the halving doesn't make a whole lot of sense since the price would be based on availability, and the halving only affects new coins - most of the coins to ever exist are already in circulation so the halving doesn't have that much of an effect on overall supply.

I only say it will double because A. it will nearly have to in order for ANY miners to profit, no matter how large or small of an operation.

B. the last and only time it halved the price shot through the roof, and there's only more backing for it now.

I think they came out with this to hedge against the halving, to get more people mining.

the price went down after the ½ last time and   the diff dropped a bit.   then 3 or 4 adjustments  later we upswung in price.

Topping out in April 2013  at 240 usd  then a crash.  I would argue asics boosted price along with the ½ing.

But now we do not have something 10x the efficiency  like asics were to gpus
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
Heck, I might buy one so I can put the PSU in a big desktop and run it on something that'll actually hold up. Maybe play with undervolting and see what it can do.

If it's half the hashes and half the price including the PSU, just think how much profit they're still milking off the full-size S7. And just think how much profit they'd have been milking when the originals sold for four times the current pricetag. If nothing else, it's useful for that slap in the face.

The price doubling after the halving doesn't make a whole lot of sense since the price would be based on availability, and the halving only affects new coins - most of the coins to ever exist are already in circulation so the halving doesn't have that much of an effect on overall supply.

I only say it will double because A. it will nearly have to in order for ANY miners to profit, no matter how large or small of an operation. B. the last and only time it halved the price shot through the roof, and there's only more backing for it now.

I think they came out with this to hedge against the halving, to get more people mining.
legendary
Activity: 3416
Merit: 1865
Curmudgeonly hardware guy
Heck, I might buy one so I can put the PSU in a big desktop and run it on something that'll actually hold up. Maybe play with undervolting and see what it can do.

If it's half the hashes and half the price including the PSU, just think how much profit they're still milking off the full-size S7. And just think how much profit they'd have been milking when the originals sold for four times the current pricetag. If nothing else, it's useful for that slap in the face.

The price doubling after the halving doesn't make a whole lot of sense since the price would be based on availability, and the halving only affects new coins - most of the coins to ever exist are already in circulation so the halving doesn't have that much of an effect on overall supply.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
They really must have some specific formula for determining these prices

Because its basically makes them useless by the time it pays for itself unless BTC doubles, difficulty halves.

I guess none of us will like the S9 pricing.

For mining in general to remain profitable, the price of Bitcoin will have to double for the halving. As long as the price shoots up to match the difficulty - which it always has - especially after a halving, miners will remain profitable. Especially including this S7-LN because it comes with a power supply.

I'm not quite understanding why everyone is calling this useless. It's just as efficient as the previous S7, half the price, half the hashes, but it comes with a power supply.
full member
Activity: 263
Merit: 131
In my opinion there is on point on the new S7-Lite which is perfect.
The new PSU holder on top  Roll Eyes Grin
hero member
Activity: 588
Merit: 500
So I see these are now available on the main Bitmain site.

$276 shipping from June 2nd.

Great pity from an International shipment point of view that these are not available at a lower price & weight without the PSU.


Rich
legendary
Activity: 4326
Merit: 8950
'The right to privacy matters'
They really must have some specific formula for determining these prices

Because its basically makes them useless by the time it pays for itself unless BTC doubles, difficulty halves.

I guess none of us will like the S9 pricing.

The s9 will only work for a low power guy 5 cents 6 cents.  I wonder if they will make it use 2000 watts  killing off most if not all  120 volt  setups.
legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 1723
They really must have some specific formula for determining these prices

Because its basically makes them useless by the time it pays for itself unless BTC doubles, difficulty halves.

I guess none of us will like the S9 pricing.
full member
Activity: 263
Merit: 131
After running the calculations am I correct that holding all things constant (same elec. rate, shipping from Bitmain, difficulty,) the ROI seems to be about the same this S7-LN vs. S7  (within about 10 days or so form the calculator).  I am not even questioning if ROI is even achievable with everything else going on.. halving..next gen equipment etc. Just doing a direct a comparison between these two models.

my calculation allotted for buying a S7 PSU for about $150, and being able to use a $100 coupon on the newest Batch s7 (which I assume cant be used for the S7-LN?).

This would make total shipped cost of Each:

  • S7-LN = $276
  • S7 Batch 17 + PSU = $550

My point is, unless you just need a smaller / quieter machine... ROI wise & comparison wise the S7-LN does not seem drastically different that the S7.  Does this seem correct?

Never mind. Got it Smiley
legendary
Activity: 4326
Merit: 8950
'The right to privacy matters'
After running the calculations am I correct that holding all things constant (same elec. rate, shipping from Bitmain, difficulty,) the ROI seems to be about the same this S7-LN vs. S7  (within about 10 days or so form the calculator).  I am not even questioning if ROI is even achievable with everything else going on.. halving..next gen equipment etc. Just doing a direct a comparison between these two models.

my calculation allotted for buying a S7 PSU for about $150, and being able to use a $100 coupon on the newest Batch s7 (which I assume cant be used for the S7-LN?).

This would make total shipped cost of Each:

  • S7-LN = $276
  • S7 Batch 17 + PSU = $550

My point is, unless you just need a smaller / quieter machine... ROI wise & comparison wise the S7-LN does not seem drastically different that the S7.  Does this seem correct?

no all coupons are dead.

4 of these small units shipped to usa   will cost 1291 with psu and shipping  you get 10.8th

2 s-7s with psus will cost 1335

so plug n play

  10.8th for  1291   s-7 lite
    9.4th for  1335  s-7 regular.

assume the power use is equal the new model looks a little better.

of course if you had a coupon then the older model is better. but coupons are dead.
newbie
Activity: 25
Merit: 0
As i know all coupons are expired. is this correct?

If not, can somebody check if it is usable for this miner?
All coupons ARE expired.

Funny thing is, people still trying to sell them on eBay, even listing the exp date... so if anyone is starting a expired coupon collection  Tonguehttp://www.ebay.com/itm/100-OFF-ANTMINER-S7-Bitmain-Coupon-Expires-5-11-16-/322054298549?hash=item4afbee9bb5:g:3aYAAOSwQjNW-IMY
legendary
Activity: 2506
Merit: 1714
Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.
As i know all coupons are expired. is this correct?

If not, can somebody check if it is usable for this miner?
All coupons ARE expired.
full member
Activity: 585
Merit: 106
As i know all coupons are expired. is this correct?

If not, can somebody check if it is usable for this miner?
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 560
I think this is them just clearing out old stock that would otherwise just sit there losing money for them. People wanted a lower power miner and dont care about ROI, so here it is!
legendary
Activity: 2506
Merit: 1714
Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.
I wonder if those Enermax Revolution87+ PSU's are used or leftovers from S2 times.
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1000
After running the calculations am I correct that holding all things constant (same elec. rate, shipping from Bitmain, difficulty,) the ROI seems to be about the same this S7-LN vs. S7  (within about 10 days or so form the calculator).  I am not even questioning if ROI is even achievable with everything else going on.. halving..next gen equipment etc. Just doing a direct a comparison between these two models.

my calculation allotted for buying a S7 PSU for about $150, and being able to use a $100 coupon on the newest Batch s7 (which I assume cant be used for the S7-LN?).

This would make total shipped cost of Each:

  • S7-LN = $276
  • S7 Batch 17 + PSU = $550

My point is, unless you just need a smaller / quieter machine... ROI wise & comparison wise the S7-LN does not seem drastically different that the S7.  Does this seem correct?

I believe they are aiming this miner at people like me.  Who want to mine but I don't want to be running an operation.. Just something that uses a bit of power but is still actually adding some calcs to the network.  The idea my CPU at 500 hashes is adding to the network is just BS.

I am highly considering one, still a little more power than I would like to use BUT it is in the range it won't overload a circuit and I can have a few more things on the circuit. 
newbie
Activity: 25
Merit: 0
After running the calculations am I correct that holding all things constant (same elec. rate, shipping from Bitmain, difficulty,) the ROI seems to be about the same this S7-LN vs. S7  (within about 10 days or so form the calculator).  I am not even questioning if ROI is even achievable with everything else going on.. halving..next gen equipment etc. Just doing a direct a comparison between these two models.

my calculation allotted for buying a S7 PSU for about $150, and being able to use a $100 coupon on the newest Batch s7 (which I assume cant be used for the S7-LN?).

This would make total shipped cost of Each:

  • S7-LN = $276
  • S7 Batch 17 + PSU = $550

My point is, unless you just need a smaller / quieter machine... ROI wise & comparison wise the S7-LN does not seem drastically different that the S7.  Does this seem correct?
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