Nothing wrong with IE
take your security seriously.
Both in the same sentence!
Topic: BitMillions.com- More than ฿ 1,400 in Prizes - Play with only ฿ 0.01! - page 6. (Read 21634 times)
February 21, 2013, 01:54:48 AM
Both in the same sentence!
February 20, 2013, 12:51:57 PM
Web browsing with IE is like swimming naked in the sewer. You might get where you want to go, eventually, but god only knows the diseases and infections you'll pick up along the way.
LOL
February 20, 2013, 11:48:30 PM
Nothing wrong with IE IF you're smart enough and can be bothered to take your security seriously.
February 20, 2013, 07:49:50 AM
IE9 may be the culprit
Well, there's yer trouble, right there. IE9 is the coding output of Satan. I'd rather use Safari and be bottle fed the sites that Steve Jobs' ghost says I should look at, rather than surf the web with the pile of steaming bear shit that is IE.
Web browsing with IE is like swimming naked in the sewer. You might get where you want to go, eventually, but god only knows the diseases and infections you'll pick up along the way.
Friends don't let friends use IE.
February 20, 2013, 07:45:23 AM
My questions about the tickets have been answered. I maintain that twitter, facebook, etc are no way to provide customer support. A contact form is acceptable or an email address and both of these should be on the site. Charly, I think you are not prepared for any kind of criticism and this reflects very badly on you.
Dave, I take your criticism and we will incorporate additional contact methods on the page.
We will have:
- Google+
- BitcoinTalk
- IRC Channel on Freenode
- Contact Form
Any other suggestion?
um..let's see..
Semaphore (flag signals)
Native American Smoke Signals
That flashing-light-thingy signalling method naval ships use
Telegraph/Morse Code
Personal landline and mobile telephone numbers for all Sha Two employees
Telephone #'s for all Sha Two employees families (in case you aren't answering your own phones)
Perhaps some sort of web-accessible device mounted on each Sha Two employee, allowing customers to send minor electrical shocks when they have a problem or question
Home addresses for all Sha Two employees so customers can come bang on your door in the middle of the night yelling "WHARZ MUH TICKETZES?!?"
I think that covers pretty much every contact method... :-D
February 20, 2013, 01:21:14 AM
Ok... ShaTwo got back to me VERY quickly after PM here after all... I was a bit tilted by the non-functionality I encountered so...
Anyway, it appears that IE9 may be the culprit, not even working after dumping cache. At ShaTwo's suggestion I tried Chrome (which I never use) and the site IS indeed working as advertised and I WAS able to view my 'tickets' (though they lost...
). In Chrome the site looks pretty good and has a nice feel to it. Cheers guys. Seems I'm a 'bug locator' ... 
I may very well try the site out again.
Anyway, it appears that IE9 may be the culprit, not even working after dumping cache. At ShaTwo's suggestion I tried Chrome (which I never use) and the site IS indeed working as advertised and I WAS able to view my 'tickets' (though they lost...
). In Chrome the site looks pretty good and has a nice feel to it. Cheers guys. Seems I'm a 'bug locator' ... I may very well try the site out again.
February 20, 2013, 01:15:18 AM
PMd the asked for information and results of clearing cache.
Just answered, ticket was received correctly ( don't like to give TxID for user privacy )... problems seems to be related with issues with IE9.
If somebody else is using Internet Explorer 9, could you please tell me if you can see the site correctly?
February 20, 2013, 01:12:06 AM
You spent 1,800 hours on this?
I may take some days off and browse Reddit & BitcoinTalk from time to time in the middle
So not sure the exact number of hours...Most of the work you can not see it, since is on the Backend, also we tested the system for several weeks before launching.
TradeFortress, I use to be faster when I was younger
February 20, 2013, 01:11:41 AM
Yeah... this site is terribly messed up.... I tried and tried to input the transaction IDs for .025 btc I sent just trying the site out and was UNABLE to get anything about any tickets
There's only ever been one transaction to the bitmillions address that starts with 0.025:
Here's the ticket. Interesting that the address it shows (17YHN...) was the 11th input. It's normal for sites to use the first input as the 'sending address'.
February 20, 2013, 01:09:49 AM
If these guys were planning to run a scam, I doubt they would have left such large amounts in the prize pools when they dropped the price of a ticket by a factor of 10. They could quite justifiably have reduced each prize pool by a factor of 10, but decided not to.
Thanks dooglus, that is exactly the reason why we chose to keep the pools as the were, we wanted to be true to our word.
We didn't work for 6 months of working 10 hours a day (including weekends ) + investing over $50K ( 1300 BTC in Pools, plus Programming, plus Design, etc ) for nothing. We are here for the long run.
That is why I think its important for the Bitcoin Community to build successful businesses, operators of the businesses that do not make money eventually either close their doors or worst yet, run aways. Operators of profitable businesses that are making money, like to keep their businesses running as long as possible.
Our best interest is that users like our game and keeps playing it, that is how we make money so we can to keep developing new sites, games, applications for more devices, etc... to grown the Bitcoin economy.
In my opinion, that is the only possible way that this amazing new currency can succeed.
You spent 1,800 hours on this?
February 20, 2013, 12:53:55 AM
PMd the asked for information and results of clearing cache.
February 20, 2013, 12:37:55 AM
Yeah... this site is terribly messed up.... I tried and tried to input the transaction IDs for .025 btc I sent just trying the site out and was UNABLE to get anything about any tickets (I should have 'bought' 2 tickets with .02 btc). The transaction TO Bitmillions wallet ID WAS confirmed by blockchain.info.
I have to say that I won't be trying this site again unless things change drastically. Shouldn't be out of the testing phase IMO. Glad I didn't send more than .025 btc.
I have to say that I won't be trying this site again unless things change drastically. Shouldn't be out of the testing phase IMO. Glad I didn't send more than .025 btc.
Could you please tell me your Bitcoin address or the ID of the Transaction you sent?
Even IF I was able to see tickets I 'bought' by entering my own wallet's 'send' IDs there MUST be an easier way to show your consumers their ticket numbers, the current system (discounting the fact that I couldn't get it to work AT ALL) is just too clumsy/confusing.
In addition to the above... the site is NOT showing the total jackpot available in the red box nor is it showing the 'last 4 winning numbers on the left side of the front page. ALSO, in addition, the About Us tab goes to a blank page with NO information about contact addresses for Twitter, Facebook, Google+ OR Bitcointalk as stated earlier itt.
Something is very wrong here.
In addition to the above... the site is NOT showing the total jackpot available in the red box nor is it showing the 'last 4 winning numbers on the left side of the front page. ALSO, in addition, the About Us tab goes to a blank page with NO information about contact addresses for Twitter, Facebook, Google+ OR Bitcointalk as stated earlier itt.
Something is very wrong here.
What browser are you using? Could you please try deleting your browser cache and refreshing the page to see if that solves the problem?
[Edit] Looks like it was a problem with a JavaScript Library that loads only on Internet Explorer, that was not loading on SSL.
The issue was fixed, site should be working fine on IE now.
February 19, 2013, 11:27:24 PM
Yeah... this site is terribly messed up.... I tried and tried to input the transaction IDs for .025 btc I sent just trying the site out and was UNABLE to get anything about any tickets (I should have 'bought' 2 tickets with .02 btc). The transaction TO Bitmillions wallet ID WAS confirmed by blockchain.info.
I have to say that I won't be trying this site again unless things change drastically. Shouldn't be out of the testing phase IMO. Glad I didn't send more than .025 btc.
Even IF I was able to see tickets I 'bought' by entering my own wallet's 'send' IDs there MUST be an easier way to show your consumers their ticket numbers, the current system (discounting the fact that I couldn't get it to work AT ALL) is just too clumsy/confusing.
In addition to the above... the site is NOT showing the total jackpot available in the red box nor is it showing the 'last 4 winning numbers on the left side of the front page. ALSO, in addition, the About Us tab goes to a blank page with NO information about contact addresses for Twitter, Facebook, Google+ OR Bitcointalk as stated earlier itt.
Something is very wrong here.
I have to say that I won't be trying this site again unless things change drastically. Shouldn't be out of the testing phase IMO. Glad I didn't send more than .025 btc.
Even IF I was able to see tickets I 'bought' by entering my own wallet's 'send' IDs there MUST be an easier way to show your consumers their ticket numbers, the current system (discounting the fact that I couldn't get it to work AT ALL) is just too clumsy/confusing.
In addition to the above... the site is NOT showing the total jackpot available in the red box nor is it showing the 'last 4 winning numbers on the left side of the front page. ALSO, in addition, the About Us tab goes to a blank page with NO information about contact addresses for Twitter, Facebook, Google+ OR Bitcointalk as stated earlier itt.
Something is very wrong here.
February 17, 2013, 10:54:46 PM
I think you are talking about Question #12 ( How can I verify that there are sufficient funds to cover the prizes? ), correct?
Yes, #12 sorry.
February 17, 2013, 09:55:11 PM
one thing is worrying me, I'm seeing that the pool 4 has 1541 transactions to it and a total of 1165 btc in it.
As no one have won the prize of this pool yet, this mean that these transactions are sending bitcoins to this address.
The first transaction was 1000 btc, this means that all the other 1540 transactions sent 165 btc to it.
statistically talking, the winners of this pool will receive about 6000 btc. this means that when this pool will be paid to the winners, it will have about 56000 unspent transactions. this is a lot of inputs, it will totalize more than 8MB with compressed keys. this is a total of 32 blocks entirely filled with your "transaction".
I think you should review the interval you're sending the bitcoins to your offline address to reduce the numbers of inputs when someone win the top prize
As no one have won the prize of this pool yet, this mean that these transactions are sending bitcoins to this address.
The first transaction was 1000 btc, this means that all the other 1540 transactions sent 165 btc to it.
statistically talking, the winners of this pool will receive about 6000 btc. this means that when this pool will be paid to the winners, it will have about 56000 unspent transactions. this is a lot of inputs, it will totalize more than 8MB with compressed keys. this is a total of 32 blocks entirely filled with your "transaction".
I think you should review the interval you're sending the bitcoins to your offline address to reduce the numbers of inputs when someone win the top prize
Yes, we know about this problem, what is why we are working in a script that will consolidate small inputs on the Pool # 4 Address once a day
Maybe have a small online address for pool 4, and dump it once per day into the offline wallet.
This is also a very good suggestion, thanks dooglus! Will look into it.
Right now we consolidated the payments for 6 block in one Transaction to try to make it not as small. In the future when game become very popular I thing we will have to do like dooglus suggested and break the transaction in parts.
Also, the amounts shown in https://bitmillions.com/faq#7 are out of date. It would be better to either have them show the live balance or not show the balances at all.
I think you are talking about Question #12 ( How can I verify that there are sufficient funds to cover the prizes? ), correct?
February 17, 2013, 05:28:09 PM
I think you should review the interval you're sending the bitcoins to your offline address to reduce the numbers of inputs when someone win the top prize
Maybe have a small online address for pool 4, and dump it once per day into the offline wallet.
Also, you should regularly consolidate the outputs at the offline pool addresses. Make a transaction that takes a bunch of small outputs from the 'match-4' address and sends a single output back to the same address. If you include the 1000 BTC output as one of the inputs then you'll be able to include 65 tiny inputs with it while staying within the 10000 byte limit for free transactions. So long as the value of the transaction times the number of confirmations of the inputs is bigger than 5760 the transaction is free. So you can consolidate 65 tiny outputs every 6 blocks for free. Since you're hopefully only adding one output to each pool for each block you'll quickly get the offline pool tidied up.
Also, the amounts shown in https://bitmillions.com/faq#7 are out of date. It would be better to either have them show the live balance or not show the balances at all.
February 17, 2013, 04:42:42 PM
one thing is worrying me, I'm seeing that the pool 4 has 1541 transactions to it and a total of 1165 btc in it.
As no one have won the prize of this pool yet, this mean that these transactions are sending bitcoins to this address.
The first transaction was 1000 btc, this means that all the other 1540 transactions sent 165 btc to it.
statistically talking, the winners of this pool will receive about 6000 btc. this means that when this pool will be paid to the winners, it will have about 56000 unspent transactions. this is a lot of inputs, it will totalize more than 8MB with compressed keys. this is a total of 32 blocks entirely filled with your "transaction".
I think you should review the interval you're sending the bitcoins to your offline address to reduce the numbers of inputs when someone win the top prize
As no one have won the prize of this pool yet, this mean that these transactions are sending bitcoins to this address.
The first transaction was 1000 btc, this means that all the other 1540 transactions sent 165 btc to it.
statistically talking, the winners of this pool will receive about 6000 btc. this means that when this pool will be paid to the winners, it will have about 56000 unspent transactions. this is a lot of inputs, it will totalize more than 8MB with compressed keys. this is a total of 32 blocks entirely filled with your "transaction".
I think you should review the interval you're sending the bitcoins to your offline address to reduce the numbers of inputs when someone win the top prize
February 17, 2013, 03:23:38 PM
It would be nice to see instructions on how to get to the "sent" address from various wallets. In blockchain.info it is not straightforward unless I am missing something (entirely possible).
Go to the 'transactions' tab, then open the 'View' menu in the top right, and select 'Detailed'. It will give you the transaction id of each of your transactions as well as a list of input and output addresses.
February 17, 2013, 03:11:48 PM
I will try not to clutter up your inbox once you get the contact form up! It would be nice to see instructions on how to get to the "sent" address from various wallets. In blockchain.info it is not straightforward unless I am missing something (entirely possible). Until now I never had a reason to know where the coins came from.
One way to really make the site streamlined would be to allow customers to upload coins to bet with. Some will love it and some will hate it but imagine how easy the interface could be then.
One way to really make the site streamlined would be to allow customers to upload coins to bet with. Some will love it and some will hate it but imagine how easy the interface could be then.
On blockchain.info, when you click on send money, on the left side you have "Custom" on section "Transaction Type".There you can chose from what address you wanna send your bitcoins.
February 17, 2013, 02:45:25 PM
I will try not to clutter up your inbox once you get the contact form up! It would be nice to see instructions on how to get to the "sent" address from various wallets. In blockchain.info it is not straightforward unless I am missing something (entirely possible). Until now I never had a reason to know where the coins came from.
One way to really make the site streamlined would be to allow customers to upload coins to bet with. Some will love it and some will hate it but imagine how easy the interface could be then.
One way to really make the site streamlined would be to allow customers to upload coins to bet with. Some will love it and some will hate it but imagine how easy the interface could be then.
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