Topic: Bitminter bitcoin mining pool - shutdown mining 2020-07-01 website 2021-06-01 - page 64. (Read 324945 times)

Would it be possible to add the ability to add a worker just by pointing the rig at bitminter with the worker name in the credentials?

I.E:
I don't have a worker named "S5Rig" but if I were to point my S5 at mint.bitminter.com:3333 with the username_S5Rig in the username field on the S5, it would automatically create a worker named "S5Rig".

I had it good as you said for a let say almost steady line and and overhere (dutch time) at about 9:00 it jumped to a spike line as if i put it back on us server. I was not at home at that time, but if you say you did nothing as well... then i wonder what it was.

I didn't get it back as calm as it had become before 9:00.

The difficultys i had set after you told me and adjusted to the eu server, then there was that jump that i think 5 miners or so did at about 9:00 clock.. Maybey i or we will find out some day .

Thanx for the info.

Nothing was changed.

If you rent miners and they require a difficulty at 128 or higher, try setting that as the minimum difficulty on your worker. Not sure if that has something to do with the problem..

Wat has changed this morning??

I did wat you said Doc and did that last night, now i see that this morning when i was allready at work that from allmost the calm and steady line i ended up last night all miners that i rented got pointy or spikes like they did before of what you told me. What changed, its not sommething i did because i was not near my computer.

greetings ..

Indeed. Real security is not achievable on a professional grade system much less an end user system. And I totally get where you are coming from with Google. Do some searches for call centers in India holding data for ransom from their clients, its shocking. You just have to do the best you can and limit your losses as much as possible. My goal is not to be completely secure but rather I just try to be more secure than the majority. By not being "low hanging fruit" I can fell pretty good that I will be ok when something happens. I know I am speaking to choir here and, admittedly, BTC is very different in that regard. So I just do what I do with my other bank accounts, have many and keep small amounts in each. My savings is in a credit union account with no electronic access. When I need money from it I have to go in person or get them to mail me a check. Its a pain but I never have to worry about more than a few hundred being stolen when my card is compromised. All things being equal, I trust Google more than anyone else.

Thanks for your reaction on me doc, correcting the settings now and as you say i do the easy perk if needed.

587 people already using the new Google login - nice

Google login is pretty secure as far as login mechanisms can be secure, at least if you turn on 2-factor authentication.

The real threat is the end user's computer being hacked. At that point the hacker is getting all your passwords as you type them in. And yes, he's getting your 2-factor codes as well. A security person at a bank told me this is the biggest problem they have too. I guess that's why some of them give away free anti-virus software. But there's only so much you can do to keep a person from installing application-infected-by-hacker.exe on their computer.

It has happened a few times that a Bitminter user got their Google account accessed by a hacker, and every time they changed the password they typed the password right into the keylogger the hacker installed on their computer. 2FA is useless as well. I tell them to wipe the hard drive and reinstall the operating system from a clean source. Some don't know how to do this, and some may think it's too drastic and rather keep the computer in a compromised state.

Hmm, I think 2FA should really be 2 independent forms of authentication, not 2 ways controlled, even indirectly, by one company, google.

My "other reasons" include issues like the fact that google is an extremely large entity with an extremely large amount of distributed data.
Google hires people due to their extensive computer abilities.
There's no way that such a company could 100% ensure all security.
Hardware access, software access, network access.

Google in countries where security cannot be guarantee due to government interest in their data (e.g. ... USA)

You are correct in theory. If your OpenID account is compromised everything attached to that is also at risk. In the wild, the risk is not much greater than someone compromising only your email account. AFAIK, there is no central list of what a particular OpenID account is tied to. So an attacker would need to know what you were actually using it for to exploit that. If they compromise your email alone, they have all of that anyway. Even if they dont have the password in your email, they can just reset it via your email and by the time you notice, the damage is done. That is why two-factor is the best approach. At least if they do get a password, they also need a land line or cell phone number or a mobile device tied to your account with the authenticator installed under your account. Not impossible by any stretch, but it makes it that much more difficult. Google (and most others) also uses browser fingerprinting and geo-location data to pair with your authentication requests. If you are not in the same general location, with the same browser fingerprint, it will raise flags and prompt you to perform addition validation. I sometimes use several things to obfuscate my usage and most large sites will stop me if I have tried to hit a service with an unusual pattern. Google will send me a text message before opening anything they control.

I was looking at the OpenID 2.0 as an option and I shied away because of what I perceived to be security issues.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, coz I'm not too sure about it all, but doesn't the new OpenID 2.0 mean that google logs you in to the web site, the pool credentials are no longer the control of access? i.e. someone only needs access to your google account to login to the web site?
I find google very persistent at keeping me logged in even when I logout on my browser, so I'm very much NOT a fan of google security
(for other reasons also )

Important info if you log in at Bitminter with Google

Google has upgraded their login from OpenID 2.0 to the new OpenID Connect. They are phasing out the older login. This means that your Google login information registered at Bitminter has to be updated. The Bitminter website has already been upgraded and the Google button on the login page now uses the new Google login.

How to upgrade if you used to log in by clicking the Google button on the login page:

Our Google button has been upgraded. Simply click it to log in with the new Google login. The first time you do this your login info will be automatically upgraded. This automatic upgrade is possible until 2017.01.01 at which time Google removes the information that makes an automatic upgrade possible. Yes, you have almost 2 years left to just click that Google button one time. If you still miss the deadline, use the contact page on the website to ask for help.

How to upgrade if you logged in by entering your Google profile URL into the OpenID input field:

The new Google button will not be able to upgrade you automatically. But you can use it to log in after doing the following. Log in as usual (OpenID 2.0) by entering your profile URL in the OpenID input field. Go to "my account" -> "logins" in the website menu. Click the Google logo to add the new login. After this you can delete your old OpenID 2.0 login. Alternatively you can add a different (non-Google) login. The important part is that any OpenID 2.0 version of the Google login must be replaced. This is possible until 2015.04.20 at which time Google shuts down their OpenID 2.0 servers and only OpenID Connect will be available for Google users. If you miss the deadline then use the contact page on the website to ask for help.

How to verify that everything is OK:

Log in on the website and go to "my account" -> "logins". There are now separate lists for your (new) Google logins, and your OpenID 2.0 logins. If you don't have any google.com logins listed under the OpenID 2.0 heading then you are OK.

How to log in like the old Google-button did (OpenID 2.0):

If you for some reason want to do an OpenID 2.0 profile-less login like the old Google button did, simply paste "https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id" into the OpenID input field on the login page and click the "Login" button. This is possible until 2015.04.20 and allows you to manually replace your old Google login with something else if you don't want to use the new Google login for some reason.

Apologies for that. An upgrade took much longer than the usual few seconds to restart services.

Info on the upgrade will follow.

Working again now.

I just got this when going to your website.

Website is offline No cached version of this page is available.
Error 521 Ray ID: 1cc606e707130f21
Web server is down

Mining at a mining server that is close will reduce latency somewhat, which can reduce stale/reject ratio a little bit on your work. This will make a tiny impact on the live hashrate shown at the website because it only counts accepted work when trying to estimate your hashrate. But the difference is going to be so tiny that you won't be able to notice it in the rather large random swings in the live hashrates. They are only measured over a few minutes and are therefore very inaccurate.

If you make 0.05% or even 0.1% more bitcoins by mining at a server that is closer then it may be worth the effort to type a new hostname into your miner config. But you're not going to notice your hashrate on the website going up by 0.1%.

Mining at a higher difficulty also makes the website hashrates more inaccurate. What you're seeing is probably just random luck swings. If the difficulty is high enough you may even notice it on your shift hashrate averages and the work amount done per shift. These luck swings in your mining will therefore also impact your payouts. That's why the easy mode perk is there. If you worry about this variance then you can mine at a low difficulty to reduce them, and that way reduce the variance in your payouts a little bit.

With a rockminer 35gh/s as only miner(s1 is not working anymore) now i am renting all the other miners as my workers.
I am renting them at betarings if that is helpfull info.
i am renting 450 to 1000gh miners and trying out diff settings and the us and eu adreses.

The noticed that with double the diff setting (450gh/s-1024diff) that the miners are doing way better and in us2 adres.
If i do eur1 and/or normal diff setting i get normal till low hash speeds.

a 450gh/s becomes 500 to almost 600 and almost steady. 700gh/s with the spikes to 1000gh/s is what 1 miner is doing and so is the story for the 850 and. ofcourse not every miner, but then i try double diff with eu1 adres if that is what the miner needs.

this is the second or third day checking and trying, waiting till it has done a few hours so i can see it on the chart map and what i says in workers and correct it again if i don't like it.

It does not matter if the miner it self is in europa or america, the us adres mostly is best in minimum of i think 50gh/s differents.

Checking now the one of the 2 850 and seeing that it does 1500gh easy and touching 2th. In the graphics i can see where it was in let say not the right settings yet.

I did not expect this to be possible because... well, its only the difficulty and the adres i can change and with these results.

I don't know what that says about the us and eu servers, but us works so much better.

Doc, if you need my login for betarigs so you can see for your self te results there then say it.

I rent it there because electric cost here is high and miners a not cheap, renting is really cheap so ... doing that. I'm not yet on the level of payout that i am suppose to earn, but allready a block pays back a miner most of the time now..

I hope doc this helps you greatly of what you need to know.

Not totally happy because one of the 850gh miners is not yet op to the speed it did before and i had to rerent it because the rent time ended. So need to fine tune it wright now. It's doing 850gh  now.

Thanks. Will try.

Thank you for supporting the pool


Go to "my account" -> "workers" in the menu and click the gear icon on one of your workers. A window will pop up allowing you to change the settings for that worker. The "work submits per minute" has a default of 20, which is also normally the maximum. With the easy mode perk you can now set it up to 40 per minute.

With difficulty 512 you will find twice as many proofs of work compared to difficulty 1024, but they are also worth half as much. So on average you are earning the same as before. And you are using more bandwidth on your internet connection to talk to the mining server. The upside is that your work per day will be closer to average, less affected by luck.

Try it out:

You can turn on easy mode and set work submits to 40 per minute, leave it for a day or two and then look at https://bitminter.com/shifts to see if your work per shift is more stable than before.

If you want to reduce internet traffic then you can set work submits below 20. You could try 10 per minute. Or you can set a minimum difficulty higher than what you normally get, which will have the same effect. Your miners will cause less bandwidth usage and you can look at https://bitminter.com/shifts to see if your work per shift is now varying more than you are happy with.

Well that sucks; thankfully I have that prepay perk. Basically made back the fees I had paid up to this point because of that. I just turned on the "Pro Minter Pack", with a 1.8% donation, to help out a little bit as a result.

Out of curiosity, with "Easy Mode" where do I set the reduced difficulty? And what should it be set to?

When I use my own gear I just have a solo S3+ so it's not much; was thinking this might help get a few extra shares in.

The block at height 349012 was unfortunately orphaned. Those using the prepay perk were paid.

The website is showing it as needing 101 confirmations instead of showing the text "orphaned". I'll have that fixed in a moment.