Topic: bitmover Merit Source Application - and thoughts on Brazilian Bitcoin Community (Read 1646 times)

Updating merit data of local session since I became meirt source:



And here are the top merit senders of our local board:



Special note for sabotag3x, who was the former merit source of our local session, and had to leave the forum for a couple of months. He is now back. It was hard to outpace him

And also here congrats for becoming an Merit source .
You deserved it and also here nice to see new Merit Sources .

Yeah spread them out and let the Merit circly on the Forum.

And i hope to see some other new Merit sources too

I hope you will spend them wisely and keep contributing as you do

welcome!!!!!!

I received a Pm from theymos. I am now a merit source =D

Thanks everyone for the support!

I got so many smerits 
will do my best to spend them all!!!

bumping my thread for visualization.

I am still second top merit giver in Portuguese board, behind our only merit source. I have very few sMerits left.

I used https://public.tableau.com/profile/ddmrddmr#!/vizhome/BitcointalkMeritDashboard/GlobalSummary made by DdmrDddmr and made this images

We can clearly see a downtrend in Merit received in Portuguese Local, but not in other locals

Got this data from Portuguese, Spanish, Italian, Philippines and Arabic






I believe those images shows that merit is just gone in local Portuguese board. People were airdropped, then they received 4, gave 2, then received 2, gave 1, and poof, gone.


Sabotag3x alone cannot do much there. I cannot do much as well.
According to the same source, Sabotag3x is the top merit giver with 527 merit. Followed by me (203) and Loganota 146 and Paredao 145.

Even Darkstar_, who just passed by one day, is a top merit giver lol



Just for comparative purposes, Spanish board (which has fewer posts than Portuguese local)
Paxmao 1833
DdmrDdmr  569
seoincorporation 133

There's a signature campaign running since 08/aug.. 10 posts/week, 9 members, for sure it helped.


There's a lot of good technical content that deserve more merits

eg
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2

3

4

5

6


Discussion about full nodes: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/full-nodes-importancia-para-rede-criacao-de-1-fullnode-5178378

A guy developing a game: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/feedback-game-educativo-de-criptomoedas-para-os-gamers-5172896

Open source bot: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bot-open-source-e-free-arbitragem-com-triangulacao-dentro-da-binance-5172344

Some TA: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/oficial-tradingview-bitcoin-e-altcoin-4655945

Government regulations (9 pages of good content): https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/agora-e-lei-corretoras-e-tambem-usuarios-deverao-prestar-contas-a-receita-5140353

etc

From an objective point of view, the numbers state a potentially contradictory situation on the Portuguese Local Board:

a) On the one hand, the number of Net created posts seem to be picking-up over the past few months (excluding Altcoins for this exercise). Since January 2019, the number of posts has more than doubled, and even tripled during August 2019. Specifically, the Brazilian child board, and the Main board have picked-up a lot of traction over the past few months.

b) On the other hand, the number of merits distributed on the local board is "stable". That is, since January 2019, the number per month is on average 91,5, with it’s ups and downs, but it does not follow the volume of created posts in that same timeframe. Note that September is Partial with data as of last Friday.

Number on Net created posts (see https://public.tableau.com/shared/Q7FJSFDYR?:display_count=yes&:origin=viz_share_link):
  

Number of awarded sMerits (https://public.tableau.com/shared/3885JQQZJ?:display_count=yes&:origin=viz_share_link):
 

Now of course I cannot myself add much subjectivity as to the quality/interest of the posts themselves (that is for locals to point out), or why the surge of the number of posts, but the above could be a pointer that it may be in need of a review.

Disclaimer: Net post are the number of posts created – deleted- moved. Since I cannot disassociate the three concepts, I cannot tell whether a specific set of months have had a heavy contribution to the number due to moderation, lowering the total post count for a given month by means of moderation and not a decrease in organic posting.

Bumping again after some time.

I still think Portuguese board lacks merit sources.
There are many locals such as Indonesian, Russian, Germany, etc where users are able to obtain enough merits just by posting in local boards.

That's not the case of the Portuguese board, where only like 5-10 individuals were able to rank up after the introduction of the merit system

bitmover, he think you abuse trust system because of your negative trust rating which is result of this thread. If we would interpret the rules literally, then such negative rating should not be given just because we think someone is not trustworthy.

Far away from defending or attacking someone in this case, after all trust feedback is not moderated by anyone - it completely depends on the will of the individual.

This reply demonstrates you are clearly too low functioning to be a merit source.

You have abused red trust on our account. Show us where we scammed or tried to scam any person out of money? next you claim we "attacked" your with no provocation. That is observable foolish and demonstrates you are clearly too stupid to be entrusted with giving out merit.

If you use a persons own account (that has not scammed anyone or tried to scam anyone out of money ever or been in a scenario where they could of scammed a person out of money) and say you believe their account (and others) should be glowing red as a danger warning to other members as high risk of scamming. You are a fucking imbecile as we correctly pointed out.  Just because you do not like that valid criticism being related to you in those terms, does not mean we are untrustworthy. It actually means we are being direct and to the point (very trustworthy). We are helping you realize you are clearly incorrect, whilst defending ourselves against your attack.

You have demonstrated that you are emotional and will use board metrics for your own political ends.

Instead of trying to debate your side of the argument you just ran crying to red trust with some mental gymnastics that said: I can't argue or debate and prove my point is optimal. So will with no accountability (because others have abused this account before) I will reach for red trust as a political tool. You did not refute or debunk our point. You can not.

No sorry , no imbeciles or those that leave frivolous red trust and then even boast about the abuse ON thread.

If you have no talent or skill to win a debate through reason and logic then you have use as a merit source that should be using reason and logic to discern which posts provide REAL VALUE with regard reaching the optimal opinion or solution.

Playing dumb or in your case being dumb are not the credentials best suited to the merit source position.



NEXT PLEASE !!! No more idiots throwing merit tantrums and merit parties to their pals. Let's reign in merit to the posts that add value in terms of reaching the optimal outcome. Reaching for the systems of control in an attempt to validate or invalidate your own or other persons arguments is the biggest flaw the board still has.

I abuse the trust system? My trust is 0-0-0 
Please tell me where and how I am abusing the trust system. Show me how am I getting any benefit from this abuse.

Show my merit abuse please.

This person is not fit for being a merit source. We hope theymos will never allow persons that are low functioning and abuse the trust system like this fool bitmover an opportunity to abuse the merit system like he abuses the trust system.

Strike his application like any other person that knowingly abuses any system of control.

The guy is a complete imbecile. How can such a moronic fool be expected to discern a posts of value from one of complete garbage like his own.

I see that your application for the source of merit, as well as my application, will soon be 1 year )))

I support your merit source application! Good luck!

New bump!!
To give new life to Brazilian community

I @cryptopreneurBrainboss endorse @bitmover. I believe he's worth/deserve to be a merit source. Theymos when appointing new merit source bitmover should be consider he's application (quoted posts)  are merit worthy and his application has been active for over 7months now still he didn't give up hope. He should be given a chance to assist the other merit sources highlight quality post through meriting them.

I recognize bitmover as an established member of the community and I support him to become a merit source. I hope this helps you good luck!

Bump after some months.

One merit source was added to Portuguese board, but it's not enough in my opinion.

Other boards like the Russian and Indonesian have highly merited users, but Portuguese board does not. Nobody is able to rank up just posting in the Portuguese board.

I thought that it might be a possibility.
That's nice to hear (actually, read)
 

Let's see how it goes then. I hope you are right, it will be a revival to our board.

It may be early to tell though. Bear in mind that not all Merit Sources have the same monthly allowance, and there is likely a wide variety as to the amount. I have read that some have seen their allowance increased over time, so perhaps if there were to be one, he/she may become more noticeable as time goes by.

Bump.

I saw that theymos added some more Merit sources.This is great.


However, it looks like no merit source was added for the Portuguese Local board. =(

I am Brazilian, I like more and more of the forum, unfortunately I did not know this before, but now I know that I spend a lot of time here reading the posts and learning a lot. thank you 

Give him the sauce!

yep. This nerd deserves to be a merit source. theymos,give him the lightning sword, to him at least. boa sorte, bitmover.
 

bitmover deserve merit source. Theymos please consider him a merit source. I have seen his merit history, I believe he distribute smerit fairly. Although I can't read local board post but he distribute merit also on English board. Support bitmover and hope he will approve for merit source.

Not sure that my "vote" as a Full member means a lot, I support you as merit source!

For sure it would be great if Brasil and Portuguese language in general should have own merit source.

I've been to Portugal this year and hope to visit Brasil next year! (Hopefully for crypto-conference, I know there will be one in Spring, as it's always good to combine traveling and crypto-education!)

Bump for you, @bitmover.

We still need more merit sources on the forums, @theymos. Where you at?? Let's git 'er done!

If one of the principal ways of encouraging people is to find good users, with impeccable criteria and the will to help others to be an important part of the forum, then Bitmover should absolutely become a merit source.

As an active member of my local (Spanish) I can see how the forum is kind of centralized, and how for those unable to speak English to rank-up is a really difficult task. That`s why I absolutely believe that merit sources should be implemented in local boards, so the forum can become a decentralized place where everyone has the chance of proving his/herself and to rank-up.

If we want good users to be able to rank up and earn a place in here by their contributions, then local merit sources have a great part and are truly necessaries.
So I support this, I hope Bitmover can become a merit source and help to improve the forum and encourage some good members to continue with their amazing work.

I fully support this application. I believe that having more merits distributed in the Portuguese section will stimulate the creation of new great topics and posts. Especially unique topics that are not just translations. Moreover, @bitmover has already proved to be a user who constantly produces quality posts throughout the forum and only sends merits to those who really deserve it. We have two other applications of very dedicated people. I hope at least one is chosen.

Today, most of the Brazilian BTC community is, unfortunately, on Facebook. And we are in a constant effort to attract more quality users and companies. We also have a very successful subscription campaign that is exclusive to the Portuguese section

First of all, I would like to thank you for giving out Merits to my fellow citizens, Filipino. I know our posts are written in Tagalog and it's really difficult to understand for you guys unless you use Google translator but still, you found the worth of my fellows works. I from Philippines as a Filipino appreciates your help. Thanks.

I'm supporting your application and I'm sure you'll be accepted soon. Goodluck buddy.

Thank you all for your support and kind words.

I am happy to see that some great members of this forum are supporting my application.

I'd like to endorse @bitmover to be a merit source, as well. Based on their post history, as well as their selection of posts that have been merited, they seem to have a great understanding of how the merit system operates on the forums.

Good luck, bitmover!

Hey mate, I have my endorsement for you. Keep up the good work.

I support your application.

Well done bitmover. I'm sure you'd be a great merit source for the Portuguese board and the forum in general.

Yes, I’m with you on this one. Not that it should be an issue really, but just to clarify:

theyoungmillionaire I believe is on of the best (if not the best) asset that I know of for his local Philippine community and amongst the best posters in general. He tends to make his posts rather useful and directs people to act according to the spirit that is required around here.
As such, he has created multiple guides and has required in the past permission to reference material on his local board. As such, I’ve even google translated the referenced post ( [Filipino Guide] Ang Bitcointalk Merit System ) for my personal understanding, and found it indeed meritable. Curiously enough, half of the posts are half in English on that board so one does not really go blindly into that board.

I personally, from time to time, even go to visit other local boards such as the Italian and Portuguese ones, and may have merited a post or two there at some point. It's a challenge to understand different languages to a certain degree, but not too much more that trying to decode many posts placed on the English board (be it for language lack of skills on the author’s side, or specific technicalities which I may not be familiar with yet).

Portuguese board I can sympathise with: they have similar merit ratios as my local board, and only come out a bit better in the ratio merit/post. Nevertheless, the overall daily awarded merit for the board is in the 7 to 8 sMerits region which is not too incentivating from a local board's perspective.

digaran,

1 - I have included English posts because I will, as a source, merit posts in English and Portuguese.

2 - If you look closer, respected users such as DdmrDdmr and xtraelv also merited that Philipino post, as this is a very interesting post. I was mentioned in that post also. So no, I am not blindly handing over my sMerits.

3 - I believe I am a "somewhat" established member. I believe i fulfill all requisites theymos asked. I believe rank is not the most important here, but the attitude and history in the forum.  If not, no problem.

I think anyone can apply to be Merit Source and I'm sure theymos is very objective in assessing Merit Source candidates and its decisions are not based on how many members agree or disagree.

to understand other languages it's very easy by using software Grammarly (premium) it is 90% accurate.

You have included some English posts, you have also merited some post in Filipino local board, why? do you understand the language or you just handed out a merit blindly? overall I don't find you well established to take the position of a merit source but this is just my personal opinion. maybe you could be a good choice for your local board.