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sr. member
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September 07, 2013, 09:16:51 PM
#11
k?  

If there is not enough proof why would you believe the commenters? Someone who post details can come off more trusting then someone who just leaves as comment like "this is a scam"    Be smart and use your good judgement and it's not that hard. I do not provide the proof nor do I need to it's up to the community to post and if people don't like the site don't use it. All I do is ADMIN the site the rest is up to everyone.

or

Make one better or offer creative ideas that can help. I have  a whole thread devoted to the scammers that hate the site, the users who like it and the people who don't care.

We get easily 1000-5000 hits daily so I think people are genuinely interested in it.
legendary
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September 07, 2013, 08:25:56 PM
#10
Sites can still be reviewed positively.

For example if someone types in google a (web site + SCAM)  and the website pops up on my page but then the review says it's not a scam and can be trusted.


Scamwatch is another site and sites on it don't mean its a scam.  I told myself when I started it I would not delete anything to keep it an open and fair site. The bad things that come along with it is if an owner does not respond. I try to reach out to the owners should there information be available. To give you an idea of how crazy some owners are they have tried bribing me to get off the site. But if you haven't noticed by NOT deleting anything it adds to the credibility of the site. I have not profited from this site but I have saved a few users.

I do feel bad about it but if I change it for bitnopoly I'd get requests and be blamed for being biased.

You're not being biased, you're being unfair.  Your site sucks if it has absolutely no proof or reason why a site is a scam.
sr. member
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September 07, 2013, 04:29:46 PM
#9
Sites can still be reviewed positively.

For example if someone types in google a (web site + SCAM)  and the website pops up on my page but then the review says it's not a scam and can be trusted.


Scamwatch is another site and sites on it don't mean its a scam.  I told myself when I started it I would not delete anything to keep it an open and fair site. The bad things that come along with it is if an owner does not respond. I try to reach out to the owners should there information be available. To give you an idea of how crazy some owners are they have tried bribing me to get off the site. But if you haven't noticed by NOT deleting anything it adds to the credibility of the site. I have not profited from this site but I have saved a few users.

I do feel bad about it but if I change it for bitnopoly I'd get requests and be blamed for being biased.
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September 07, 2013, 04:21:51 PM
#8
You could at least delete sites that are proven to not be scam.
sr. member
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September 07, 2013, 03:49:13 PM
#7
It does not make them scammers if they are added to the site. People and companies can post anything. It's not the best way to do things I know but the owner clearly responded and was able to explain as well. We have reputable companies on there. It would be biased if I deleted anything on it. The system isnt perfect but on the flip side you can post on there that bitnopoly is legit so when other users see it looks legit and not a scam.


99% of the sites added are by request and I'm not going to tell anyone they can't add a site because "I think it is or is not a scam" I know nothing about bitnopoluy other then it looks like a cool site.

 
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September 07, 2013, 04:31:16 AM
#6
I am pretty sure that the OP is a scammer and not the guy behind BitNopoly. Just because the way he reacts, writes and acts and the things jay said.

Bitcoin Scammer, I am HIGHLY disappointed that you add someone to your website, without even waiting for response from the owner or checking if there are more scam reports. That is just low.
legendary
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September 07, 2013, 04:24:42 AM
#5
Wow. So you get one report of a scam by a disgruntled troll and you add me to the list of scam sites? What about the 50 people in the coinchat.org bitnopoly channel that play games all day long and I have processed ALL of their withdrawal requests. The full story behind this guy who has reported me is a scam is this:

He created over 50 accounts using yopmail.com email service to get a free 100 Bit Points per account. He then requested withdrawals immediately on each one. I then put in a limit of 500 bit points minimum to prevent his gaming of the system. So then he played games against himself using his 50 accounts to pool the free 100 bit points into one account and as soon as he crossed the 500 bit points limit he requested a withdrawal of 550 bit points.

I spent two days investigating his activities, looking at ip addresses, game logs, etc, and then messaged him on coinchat that I wasn't going to be able to process his withdrawal. He then made up this story of this other account "korven" which has one game played and has rolled the dice 36 times and passed go 6 times. He claimed in coinchat he was 12-0 on that account (which frankly is nearly statistically impossible in monopoly..i dont know anyone else who has won 12 out of 12 games) and that I had reset and deleted all his points and activity. I checked the database and its just not true. I have 0 other complaints from other users, and databases dont just mysteriously choose to evaporate data from just one user account.

Notice how he also says he has no proof from other screenshots of his 12/0 wins, and there are no other users that remember playing any games against him.

Please don't add sites to the scammers list based on ONE single report, when there are dozens if not hundreds of other happy users using the site all the time.

Appreciate your consideration. Feel free to contact me directly to discuss the issue further if you'd like. [email protected]

Jay

How is it that I can read this post, and without even visiting the site nor viewing a single post of Jay's, I'm able to believe wholeheartedly that Jay is on the level?

To be clear, I honestly believe that this is NOT a scam site, and I'm not being sarcastic.

Nice post, Jay!
legendary
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September 06, 2013, 02:02:55 PM
#4
I added them to bitcoin scammers.  http://bitcoinscammers.com/bitnopoly-com/    I hope this helps and sorry for the bad outcome. Let us know if he decides to fix things.

Bitcoin Scammer please please remove his site from the scammer site as it is defintely not. I have been playing this for a week now and its both fun and fair. Sure it has its bugs since its new but every issue is addressed promptly and fairly. I personally have seen a few people via coinchat and have myself had successful withdrawals from the site. A lot of these people/scammers are abusing the system. Everyone upon signup starts with 100 free bitcoin points and if you make 5-10 accounts can play your self and easily withdraw the bitcoins. A lot of people will do this since making 5 accounts and losing is equivalent to about .05 bitcoins.  Of course this can be monitored and that is why some people are not getting their withdrawal since they are abusing a very kind gesture.

As for whether this guy scammed I do not know and I will not take sides but can personally say the site itself is not a scam site
hero member
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September 06, 2013, 01:24:21 PM
#3
Wow. So you get one report of a scam by a disgruntled troll and you add me to the list of scam sites? What about the 50 people in the coinchat.org bitnopoly channel that play games all day long and I have processed ALL of their withdrawal requests. The full story behind this guy who has reported me is a scam is this:

He created over 50 accounts using yopmail.com email service to get a free 100 Bit Points per account. He then requested withdrawals immediately on each one. I then put in a limit of 500 bit points minimum to prevent his gaming of the system. So then he played games against himself using his 50 accounts to pool the free 100 bit points into one account and as soon as he crossed the 500 bit points limit he requested a withdrawal of 550 bit points.

I spent two days investigating his activities, looking at ip addresses, game logs, etc, and then messaged him on coinchat that I wasn't going to be able to process his withdrawal. He then made up this story of this other account "korven" which has one game played and has rolled the dice 36 times and passed go 6 times. He claimed in coinchat he was 12-0 on that account (which frankly is nearly statistically impossible in monopoly..i dont know anyone else who has won 12 out of 12 games) and that I had reset and deleted all his points and activity. I checked the database and its just not true. I have 0 other complaints from other users, and databases dont just mysteriously choose to evaporate data from just one user account.

Notice how he also says he has no proof from other screenshots of his 12/0 wins, and there are no other users that remember playing any games against him.

Please don't add sites to the scammers list based on ONE single report, when there are dozens if not hundreds of other happy users using the site all the time.

Appreciate your consideration. Feel free to contact me directly to discuss the issue further if you'd like. [email protected]

Jay
sr. member
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September 05, 2013, 03:55:37 PM
#2
I added them to bitcoin scammers.  http://bitcoinscammers.com/bitnopoly-com/    I hope this helps and sorry for the bad outcome. Let us know if he decides to fix things.
full member
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September 05, 2013, 11:24:54 AM
#1
yesterday  request a withdraw from bitnopoly for 800 bitpoins (0.08BTC) around 18 hours are passed and i contact the admin at bitnopoly room on coinchat, he said me that i have more than 20 account with yopmail email and thats why he declined my withdraw!! yesterday before my withdraw i have more than 10 games played, a balance of 800 bitpoints and 25000 funpoints, today i saw my stats and all my win games just dissappear!! also my bitpoints was taken!!! now i have only one game played (lost) and it was with a user called californiablue, i never play with that californiablue!!! (honestly if i do play with him i dont remember) when i try to say to the admin this he just say me that me and californiablue was the same user and start again say that my account was a yopmail account, and thats not true!!!


Finally he say that i was trying to troll him and then didnt answer me anymore.

here you can see some screenshots:

first my profile at bitnopoly:(here you can see my email was not a yopmail email like the admin say)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pka7ov1i1q4tcir/bitnopoly.png

here is the PM he send me accusing me to have multiple yopmail accounts

https://www.dropbox.com/s/r75bxq0qsine1f6/jseverson.png


and here a part of the conversation we have at coinchat


https://www.dropbox.com/s/8nztfl7xebaszcp/p%C3%A1ra%20bitcointalk.png


unfortunately i dont have a screenshot before i request my withdraw to show you all my stats and you can compare to my actual stats, they cheat me, they scamed me, they just go away with the money i won..


if you want to try them, do it by your own responsability, i just trying to advice, and tell you my bad experience there.
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