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Topic: Bitpay just processed its first 1,000,000 USD order, Dump incoming? (Read 5512 times)

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Still no dump XD

BitPay won't do a dump. BTW, has anybody hunted down the tx? It'll be easy to spot. Just look for a 1000000 USD transaction. I think I'll post a bounty in Project Development.

~TMIBITW

I thought it was already dumped on Bitstamp a few days ago..?
heard something about it being already done, through a combination of private sale and exchanges sales
legendary
Activity: 896
Merit: 1000
Still no dump XD

BitPay won't do a dump. BTW, has anybody hunted down the tx? It'll be easy to spot. Just look for a 1000000 USD transaction. I think I'll post a bounty in Project Development.

~TMIBITW

I thought it was already dumped on Bitstamp a few days ago..?
sr. member
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SmartFi - EARN, LEND & TRADE
Just wow. Who spends 1m on BFL??
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1570
Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
Still no dump XD

BitPay won't do a dump. BTW, has anybody hunted down the tx? It'll be easy to spot. Just look for a 1000000 USD transaction. I think I'll post a bounty in Project Development.

~TMIBITW
full member
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Still no dump XD
hero member
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Merit: 500
What was HashTrade thinking..  Who will buy their bfl contracts
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precisely.. i guess bulls trying to talk the price down heh... bitpay is not some amateur rushing out to dump the coins.. a payment processor company like that obviously knows exactly what to do to avoid such scenarios.. that applies to pretty much to any business that deals with demand and supply... Grin

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1pgny0/bitpay_processes_1_million_transaction_for/

Its for BFL btw. How and when will they convert the coins to USD?

Anybody knows?

Without reading any further then the OP, I may be able to answer.

Since BitPay now has the coins, they'll know how to liquidate them in such a way to not effect the price by much. Besides, they have a lot more than this $1M worth of BTC in cold storage as anybody would be able to see via the Block Chain.


why whould BITpay dumps the  coins and then loose 1/2 his profit?! It is pure logic
hero member
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precisely.. i guess bears trying to talk the price down heh... bitpay is not some amateur rushing out to dump the coins.. a payment processor company like that obviously knows exactly what to do to avoid such scenarios.. that applies to pretty much to any business that deals with demand and supply... Grin

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1pgny0/bitpay_processes_1_million_transaction_for/

Its for BFL btw. How and when will they convert the coins to USD?

Anybody knows?

Without reading any further then the OP, I may be able to answer.

Since BitPay now has the coins, they'll know how to liquidate them in such a way to not effect the price by much. Besides, they have a lot more than this $1M worth of BTC in cold storage as anybody would be able to see via the Block Chain.
hero member
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+1 spot on..

The more bears in the forum, the better.  Cheesy

Golden rule: Bears are bulls that are caught short of their full position. They try to talk the price down. It never works, so they have to buy higher, increasing the price even more in the process.

Read my old post even I growled a week ago in want of $150 coins that never happened. Bought back at $195.
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http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1pgny0/bitpay_processes_1_million_transaction_for/

Its for BFL btw. How and when will they convert the coins to USD?

Anybody knows?

Without reading any further then the OP, I may be able to answer.

Since BitPay now has the coins, they'll know how to liquidate them in such a way to not effect the price by much. Besides, they have a lot more than this $1M worth of BTC in cold storage as anybody would be able to see via the Block Chain.


yes i am thinking the same as you man, they are not stupid to dump all thoose coins once and loose 1/2 profit
legendary
Activity: 1918
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1pgny0/bitpay_processes_1_million_transaction_for/

Its for BFL btw. How and when will they convert the coins to USD?

Anybody knows?

Without reading any further then the OP, I may be able to answer.

Since BitPay now has the coins, they'll know how to liquidate them in such a way to not effect the price by much. Besides, they have a lot more than this $1M worth of BTC in cold storage as anybody would be able to see via the Block Chain.
legendary
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No. This is faulty logic. It assumes that its just as easy to go from $150 to $2500 as it is to go from $15 to $266. This is just not true. The amount of cash into the markets to make this happen is an exponential amount.

It holds if the volume of trades in both periods ($150 to $2500  and  $15 to $266) is the same, but it doesnt need to be the case

Yeah, if the volume of trades is the same - but for the volume of trades to be the same the currency volume is exponential. That's why its not going to happen. Not until a billion more dollars finds its way into the market.

Once we get a billion more dollars of liquidity, then lets talk about going to $2500, bubble or otherwise.
hero member
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Lick me like a lolipop
No. This is faulty logic. It assumes that its just as easy to go from $150 to $2500 as it is to go from $15 to $266. This is just not true. The amount of cash into the markets to make this happen is an exponential amount.

It holds if the volume of trades in both periods ($150 to $2500  and  $15 to $266) is the same, but it doesnt need to be the case
legendary
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Price reacts exponentially to a linear demand increase when supply is perfectly inelastic, as is the case with Bitcoin.  But nice try.

Its not nearly that inelastic. To go to $2500, someone has to pay you $2500 for that bitcoin.

If you think its going to balloon from where we are now to $2500 in a bubble, you'll see.
hero member
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Price reacts exponentially to a linear demand increase when supply is perfectly inelastic, as is the case with Bitcoin.  But nice try.

Hold on - You're talking about supply of the entire bitcoin network. You're neglecting that what's available on the exchanges, orderbooks, etc is not the entire picture and any new BTC can come in at any minute potentially huge amounts.  Wouldn't this go against your assumption that supply is "perfectly inelastic"
legendary
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Price reacts exponentially to a linear demand increase when supply is perfectly inelastic, as is the case with Bitcoin.  But nice try.
legendary
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The more bears in the forum, the better.  Cheesy

Golden rule: Bears are bulls that are caught short of their full position. They try to talk the price down. It never works, so they have to buy higher, increasing the price even more in the process.

Read my old post even I growled a week ago in want of $150 coins that never happened. Bought back at $195.

We all want it to go up, but its a little arrogant to think we can't go back down. We certainly can. We can go back to <195 or <150 or lower.

Probably not tomorrow, but things could certainly happen.

We would not need to reverse trend down for more than a handful or days or weeks to go below 195 again. And even if this thing goes to 300, we could easily flash crash to <150.

I think we hang out in a $20-$40 range for a bit before testing the ATHs early next year, but that doesn't mean even 2014 want see some days (or hours) under 150.

Last time we broke an ATH, the "bubble" continued to inflate 8 times higher before crashing/correcting...

So we can expect a new ATH somewhere between $1500 and $2500, followed by a crash to "below $500" and a new stable price around $1000...

Just wait and see.



No. This is faulty logic. It assumes that its just as easy to go from $150 to $2500 as it is to go from $15 to $266. This is just not true. The amount of cash into the markets to make this happen is an exponential amount.

It is in fact several times more difficult to have a rise like this. And IF a rise that this occured, it would occur over a MUCH longer period of time. Consider how long a period of time it took the 2000 dot com bubble to build. Months. Actually years.

Of course that bubble was several magnitudes beyond what a BTC climb to 2500 would be, but the point is still the same.

The next "bubble" won't be from here to $2500.  Not unless you assume a scenario where there is a slow rise for several months/years that is predicated on no solid fundamentals developing within Bitcoin between now and then.
legendary
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The drop is imminent, but it remains to be seen if there will be 3 drops in relatively quick succession or just 1 followed by a slow recovery.

to all those drops/downswing/bursting/correction/etc/etc bubbles talking:

30 day average gox $:       166,- currently at 208 $
30 day average bstamp $:  154,- currently at 199 $

smells rosy, nothing rotten here  Wink
full member
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market rly dont know where to go, up or down
legendary
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The drop is imminent, but it remains to be seen if there will be 3 drops in relatively quick succession or just 1 followed by a slow recovery.

The market seems undecided which way to go. Maybe there are too many drunk traders?
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