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I will think about the trust rating I left overnight and will possibly reconsider it. However any harm that my opinions may have caused your reputation will likely benefit you in the long run.

A quick google search regarding Canadian law and online gambling comes with results that both say that online gambling is a gray area of the law and that running an online gambling site is outright illegal. I would say that at best the site will cause legal headaches for you.

I believe the owner of SWC was recently arrested inside the US for running an online casino (or some similar charge related to that) recently. The US also tends to be pretty aggressive at pursuing crimes against successful people, as doing so allows prosecutors to make names for themselves. I was able to recently access the site while using a US gateway from my VPN (from a US based IP address).

If you have to pay $50k for a license to run the software then your initial investment would be the equivalent of ~217.4 BTC. The site profit of bit dice is ~600 BTC (which I assume does not account for any expenses), however I would think that dice sites wold get a lot more volume of betting (and as a result more profits) then a poker site, however I may be wrong on this.

I admit that dzeros is very good at marketing (however his ethics are questionable at best) as this is likely how he was able to scam for such large amounts of money. Anything with his name anywhere near it is almost certain to be a scam in my eyes. I would guesstimate that he has probably scammed for at least 50 BTC from sites advertised on bitcointalk and probably more from sites run on other forums. Research into his identity has lead me to find allegations of scamming dating back to 2012 on various forums, however I suspect that he had started scamming prior to that by ~2 years. He was able to manipulate multiple people into taking actions that resulted in their reputation (on here) to be ruined, including getting people to both attempt to extort people and to participate in his scams (as in help him scam).

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I have (credible) information to believe that dzeros is an alt of the people I mentioned in my negative trust. The people I named are better known alts of his. I have removed my negative trust, however please see my above statement.

The quoted statement includes the phrase would be after would scam, which is saying that if the site were to scam you would do it in a certain way, it did not say that you actually engage in this practice.

I suggest you update it again. No where does Dzeros says he owns it.


The name Dzeros does not appear in this statement. These other "people" I have never spoken to or even seen around. Dzeros does not and never has "run" the site. He has been in playing.
And that quoted statement does not look like an opinion to me.

What I meant is to post a thread in meta regarding this issue https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=24.0

Because it is innapropriate to discuss about this negative trust issue here as this thread is the discussion thread about bitpoker.io sites and not to discuss on why quickseller left a negative trust. This could affect this sites reputation if you will to keep on discussing it here. OR at least use PM to resolve this issue


Too bad yes, guilty until proven innocent, anyhow Quickseller will be willing to drop the negative trust if you could present a solid evidence that you guys are not related to moreia.


Yes they do accept players from US.


Any posibility that the dzeros guy is tricking you into giving negative trust for the bitpoker.io account? This might lead you to a trust abuse which moreia can use up againts you

As I stated, I am not a lawyer, from what I was quickly told, it seemed to fit, but would be unsure until Monday when it could be reviewed.

Can i play on mobile?
Or i cant?
Because i usually play and gambling using my mobile before i am fall a sleep,..

I know Dzeros from bitdice.me... not personally.. he NEVER had any ownership of the site.

I had talked to him about doing some marketing, but nothing was ever finalized.

I have another person from bitdice.me the moderates the chat and gives away chips.

These are some of the people I have met playing dice. Nobody has access to anything but my self and the owner.

The mod can not even look at emails.. I fill his account with chips to give away.

A license from Kahnawake starts at 50K and you have to host with them. We've been looking into other options because of the hosting.

Poker Software licences start at 20K and go very high from there depending on the deal.

Then add in all the man hours..

Do not pay one player quickly without a damn good reason and your finished.

The most I ever saw at one time on SWC was about 300, but was a while ago so not really sure.

I am willing to bet the average player hold was less then 0.5btc

Pretty sad return for a "scam"

Do you have any idea the kind of money a decent poker site can make on rake?

Once we get going, I do think we can do it better then SWC or his new site.

I tend to go off the deepend when attacked.

The posts I had deleted, I am still not sure if it was my language, or off topic , but it was in this thread.

In reply to the guy complaining the giveaways were to low. Sure we want people to have fun, win some, but we are not giving away the farn.

I am sorry I snapped and in hindsight I should have use PM to resolve this.

Interesting site. Does anyone know if they allow players in the US to play?

In order for a defendant to be held liable for libel a plaintiff must prove a statement to be false. All of what I have posted can be reasonably construed as an opinion and as a result you would need to prove that what I said was in fact not my opinion at the time.

As I said, I am not a lawyer, and the call was very quick.

I guess we will see..

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And sir might I remind you, unlike on this board, the onus of proof is on you.

For both the bitpoker.io account and the site its self.

It seems that he claims to have sold his ownership stake in the site. I have updated my trust rating accordingly.

I think that it is clear that you do not know the definition of libel. Nothing in my previous statements would be considered to be libel even if proved to be false

I am not allowed to comment on the other matter, after a quick call we were told we should not comment on it until after Monday once everything is reviewed.

Screen caps, comments etc.

but I can comment on


Are you serious?

I think your mind is as inaccurate as your "information", or maybe you simply can not read.

Here is a link .. http://www.briggsoft.com/pmavens.htm, maybe you should go read it.

It is 3rd party software, and  I do not know the hands until after the hand is finished and hand postback is called.

Again I state "check your facts before you post this BS"

I do believe your already in for enough, are you sure want to keep making more incorrect/false statements?

"that it would know all the player's hands and would bet/play accordingly" - that seems to me, to be an other misleading statement of fact and not an opinion, and as such, a continued statement of Defamation/Libel.

Screencapped and forwarded for review, as I am not a lawyer.

This action will pursued to the fullest extent allowable. Please feel free to continue posting.

I will review my prior claim and will revise it accordingly if it proves to be inaccurate. I don't know who you are nor what your abilities in programing are, however I don't have any reason to believe that there are issues with programming. The most likely vector the site would scam would be that it would know all the player's hands and would bet/play accordingly

Same site with a different name, there are about 5 same software sites just come out the last month and I am in the club of not liking the software. Quickseller from what I have seen is very rarely wrong when it comes to tagging the alts of scammers this is why admin trusts him enough to have him on their trust ya know. You do realize what SWC had is not as good as what it has now got? I take it you are a linux user and can't play because of that.

~300k here!

I'm a bit confused as to where the claims of it being a scam come from though. The software it uses is going to hinder its ability to really bring in a lot of players; a lot of us hate that software and want something that looks more professional (like SWC had). With that said, it's still a small, fun little place to play.

Yeah, well I've won 6.65 mil total on bitpoker, decided to withdraw 6.5 mil and keep 150k to play with other people

User: mcb1221

The cron runs once every minute to check for withdraws... about as fast as we can make it without a separate daemon.

If you do not see your withdraw within 2 minutes, something crashed and please feel free to write us tons of emails, come here and post about it, come see if I am on either bitdice.me or just-dice.com, go post on my bot site forum.. I am generally somewhere around.

Please do not deposit,  there really is no reason too, 99% of the other players do not have enough bankroll to make it worth it ... there is not a single tournament with a buy in, other then a couple small sit and go's  for the knock out fun, they are all free rolls.  Use the free BTC every account gets, and then use the faucet. There are no restrictions on withdrawals. If you can built it up.. take it out...

The only scamming on here would be collusion between players. That why we give everyone free BTC to play with, I need the data from players.

The Poker Maven software plays well, but has very poor reporting formatting. I am still working on all the reports.

We actually did not really expect anyone would deposit, but the free play gives the reports I need to parse that data.

We are already looking at different software, but figured Poker Mavens would give us a good feel as to the potential before he spent a ton on other software.

Unfortunately I live in the US and can not put a dime into the site, or take any % of any profit or else it would be a much faster start up.

I can confirm this website is trusted, got my withdraw within 1-2 min
https://blockchain.info/tx/960469d664b4903a3b2f3802926410befb8ba19aa556525c3df2b096dd7c9761