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legendary
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Drunk Posts
September 20, 2011, 07:13:02 PM
Damn Sad nothing I can do about that.  I mean the fees are still 0.0005; you can even get those from dailybitcoins!
Also, I got 0 satoshis Sad

I just sent 1.. and I like this new block explorer, shows the unconfirmed.
http://pi.uk.com/bitcoin/address/1G57jZ4bV1vN1H8rgw9Tu2E99gJcFWmjoW

Are there only 2 people interested?



I like the ideas.. Will put them on the list for after I finish these crazy projects.. upper level CS classes suck.
hero member
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bitcoin hundred-aire
September 20, 2011, 06:58:08 PM
New feature suggestions:

I like them. It got me to thinking..

I had an idea that might fit with what you're all saying.. mb300sd, chime in if you're around.

This is basically what I meant, except the erosion could also be "per bitcoin" (or fraction thereof) rather than "per deposit."  The erosion would still be calculated every time there's a deposit.
donator
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September 20, 2011, 06:51:54 PM
New feature suggestions:

I like them. It got me to thinking..

I had an idea that might fit with what you're all saying.. mb300sd, chime in if you're around.

A new type of round, where the rules are all the same as present, but where, when each new deposit is made, the amount of time in the 'reset' is reduced by x%.

Example:

Decreasing Time Round Example / What If ?

Round: Exponential_Time_Warp

ROI: 25%
Jackpot: 20%
Fees: 3%
Minimum Deposit: 0.1 BTC
Maximum Deposit: 1 BTC
Expiration: 21.904152 hours of inactivity
Time Erosion - Each Bet (also, each POT FILLED amount?): 3%
Time Remaining: 21.904152 hours

//--Time remaining will reset to 3% of the previous total for each deposit. Let's assume that #4 JUST deposited, and the "Time remaining" field has reset. From bet 1 to bet 2, the time reset to 24 hours - 3%, or 23.28 hours. From round 2 to 3, the time reset to 22.5816. From round 3 to 4, the time reset to 21.904152. When bet #5 happens, the remaining time at reset will be 21.24702744. And on and on.//

Deposits:

#   Payment Address   Deposit Amount   Payout Amount   Time (UTC)   Paid?
1   1HKMCZztvUDe55FME52RfG72BsPV6J8CNe   0.148321   0.1854012   9/20/2011 10:05:15 PM   True
2   16rSNfXCxw6ZtZAA9MsE135nEBAmKdmTBV   0.2   0.25   9/20/2011 10:27:21 PM   False
3   1HKMCZztvUDe55FME52RfG72BsPV6J8CNe   0.1   0.125   9/20/2011 10:37:32 PM   False
4   1Dj5N36hdK3wxYLm7fucnzssaHuojYwTkR   0.1   0.125   9/20/2011 10:41:01 PM   False
Deposit Stats:

Deposit Total: 0.548321
Payout Total: 0.1854012
Fees Total: 0.0312817
Pot: 0.2219738
Jackpot: 0.1096642




SO. The host should be able to set the % of time erosion per bet. Once it gets down to 10 minutes at 3% erosion, the 3% erosion makes a smaller impact on the time remaining. If a host were to set 50% erosion, with a 24 hour game, then successive bets would reduce the time as follows, in the order of bets.

1. 24 hours
2. 12 hours
3. 6 hours
4. 3 hours
5. 1.5 hours
6. 0.75 hours
7. 0.375 hours
8. 0.1875 hours
9. 0.09375
10. 0.046875

After the 10th bet, 2.8125 minutes would remain until the round expiration. As you continue going on in bets, the time decreases.

So.. What do you guys think?

-Jonathan
hero member
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September 20, 2011, 06:20:14 PM
The current massivejackpot will last forever, but it is being very slow... people are hardly investing in between expiration times.
If you want to see a 15btc initial deposit, 30% jackpot, 1hr expiration, 25% roi round, then simply send the amount you are willing to invest in such a ponzi to 1G57jZ4bV1vN1H8rgw9Tu2E99gJcFWmjoW (in satoshis (0.00000001btc)!).  For example, if you will deposit 1btc once it is created, send 1 satoshi to that address.  If I manage to get at least 7 satoshis, I will create that round and it will be announced in this thread.

Unless you know of a way to send it without paying transaction fees, whoever does would be paying 50000x more in fees  Undecided

Damn Sad nothing I can do about that.  I mean the fees are still 0.0005; you can even get those from dailybitcoins!
Also, I got 0 satoshis Sad
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September 20, 2011, 05:15:52 PM
I'm going all-in.

Just before Bitcoinduit was terminated, I lost the majority of my BTC in a ponzi that I really expected to win.  All I have left is about 0.5 BTC invested in BTCOnTilt (Which I will gamble away), plus a little over 0.14 in my wallet.

So, I think I'm done with Bitcoins.  I'm going to stop mining (My GeForce 460 only pulled 60 MH/s anyways), and I'm throwing my last few bitpennies into this final ponzi, Sohcahtoa's ALL IN.  Every time I get paid, I guarantee I will re-invest 0.1 BTC of the winnings.  After the ponzi ends, I will split whatever money I have left equally between the second to last person to deposit and the first unpaid deposit.  For example, if persons A, B, and C got paid, D, E, F, and G didn't, and H got the jackpot, then I will split the money between D and G.

Remember, I'm only re-investing 0.1 BTC each time I get paid, and the ROI is 25%.  That means that this second jackpot will grow by 0.025 BTC each time I get paid.
legendary
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September 20, 2011, 05:10:45 PM
The current massivejackpot will last forever, but it is being very slow... people are hardly investing in between expiration times.
If you want to see a 15btc initial deposit, 30% jackpot, 1hr expiration, 25% roi round, then simply send the amount you are willing to invest in such a ponzi to 1G57jZ4bV1vN1H8rgw9Tu2E99gJcFWmjoW (in satoshis (0.00000001btc)!).  For example, if you will deposit 1btc once it is created, send 1 satoshi to that address.  If I manage to get at least 7 satoshis, I will create that round and it will be announced in this thread.

Unless you know of a way to send it without paying transaction fees, whoever does would be paying 50000x more in fees  Undecided
hero member
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bitcoin hundred-aire
September 20, 2011, 04:59:36 PM
The current massivejackpot will last forever, but it is being very slow... people are hardly investing in between expiration times.
If you want to see a 15btc initial deposit, 30% jackpot, 1hr expiration, 25% roi round, then simply send the amount you are willing to invest in such a ponzi to 1G57jZ4bV1vN1H8rgw9Tu2E99gJcFWmjoW (in satoshis (0.00000001btc)!).  For example, if you will deposit 1btc once it is created, send 1 satoshi to that address.  If I manage to get at least 7 satoshis, I will create that round and it will be announced in this thread.
legendary
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September 20, 2011, 04:34:25 PM
Any new features are gonna have to wait till I actually have time to work on the site again, and thoroughly debug it on the testnet. I have 3 projects for class due in the next week or so...

Although, if anyones interested in Namecoin ponzi, especially with the merged mining beginning soon, I could get a site up in about 5 mins.
member
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September 20, 2011, 04:24:27 PM
Ok, I guess I've learnt that it's a bit dumb to start a fixed duration round without seeing if anyones interested in contributing. If a couple of people make small/medium deposits then I'll do the same, that will at least double the jackpot and make it something worth fighting over.  Smiley
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September 20, 2011, 03:39:42 PM
Know what you mean, but I think the last bit is most fun! At least only if there is something to actually snipe!! That's why I suggested that new game type. What do ya think about it? I think it has the best parts of both games, and (in theory) none of the worst parts, but not seeming to get much response so perhaps I've missed something Sad.

Well, as I said, I think the fixed end takes away all the fun.  I don't see the point.  Plus, probably many people will know they won't be able to be around at an exact time, but they might be able to play if there is a window of several hours where they can get in. I guess only a tiny fraction of people might want/be able to play, and probably they'll jump in only at the very last moment.  What's the point of beting now knoing there isn't the slightest chance your bet might win?  I don't know, perhaps I'm missing the point all together.

I guess the point of betting before the end is hoping you'll still get paid out even though you wont win the jackpot. The sniping that goes on at the end usually results in a handful of the earlier deposits getting paid out. Obviously it only really makes sense if you are gonna be there at the end to try and win the jackpot, and even then only if the jackpot is a good few times the minimum bet, but that doesn't seem to be happening which it would if we had a jackpot trigger. Don't think you're missing the point, I suppose its just a completely different type of game, not really a ponzi but still good fun if it goes well.
hero member
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September 20, 2011, 03:35:41 PM
Know what you mean, but I think the last bit is most fun! At least only if there is something to actually snipe!! That's why I suggested that new game type. What do ya think about it? I think it has the best parts of both games, and (in theory) none of the worst parts, but not seeming to get much response so perhaps I've missed something Sad.

Well, as I said, I think the fixed end takes away all the fun.  I don't see the point.  Plus, probably many people will know they won't be able to be around at an exact time, but they might be able to play if there is a window of several hours where they can get in. I guess only a tiny fraction of people might want/be able to play, and probably they'll jump in only at the very last moment.  What's the point of beting now knoing there isn't the slightest chance your bet might win?  I don't know, perhaps I'm missing the point all together.

If you don't like fixed, see my original proposal...

"I've got an idea for how to make the highest jackpot rounds sustainable but still allow them to end at some point.
This is copied over from the 1BTC to last post thread.
We could have a sort of variable expiration time.  With each deposit it geometrically decreases until it ends up being something like 1 hour.  Or we could halve the expiration time every 5 deposits, or every 5 btc deposited, or something like that."
ama
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September 20, 2011, 03:29:30 PM
Know what you mean, but I think the last bit is most fun! At least only if there is something to actually snipe!! That's why I suggested that new game type. What do ya think about it? I think it has the best parts of both games, and (in theory) none of the worst parts, but not seeming to get much response so perhaps I've missed something Sad.

Well, as I said, I think the fixed end takes away all the fun.  I don't see the point.  Plus, probably many people will know they won't be able to be around at an exact time, but they might be able to play if there is a window of several hours where they can get in. I guess only a tiny fraction of people might want/be able to play, and probably they'll jump in only at the very last moment.  What's the point of beting now knoing there isn't the slightest chance your bet might win?  I don't know, perhaps I'm missing the point all together.
member
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September 20, 2011, 03:23:39 PM
C'mon guys... if you're gonna try n snipe for the fixed expiry jackpot, at least contribute to it first.  Cry

I think the fixed expiry takes away all the fun from the pozi game, doesn't it?

Know what you mean, but I think the last bit is most fun! At least only if there is something to actually snipe!! That's why I suggested that new game type. What do ya think about it? I think it has the best parts of both games, and (in theory) none of the worst parts, but not seeming to get much response so perhaps I've missed something Sad.
ama
member
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September 20, 2011, 01:19:06 PM
C'mon guys... if you're gonna try n snipe for the fixed expiry jackpot, at least contribute to it first.  Cry

I think the fixed expiry takes away all the fun from the pozi game, doesn't it?
member
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September 20, 2011, 01:16:13 PM
C'mon guys... if you're gonna try n snipe for the fixed expiry jackpot, at least contribute to it first.  Cry
member
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September 20, 2011, 12:57:41 PM

What are those numbers in the "current games" box?

Looks like the ratio of jackpot to minimum deposit.
hero member
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September 20, 2011, 12:24:13 PM


What are those numbers in the "current games" box?
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September 20, 2011, 12:19:08 PM
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donator
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September 20, 2011, 11:38:24 AM
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September 20, 2011, 11:37:12 AM
I guess we could test that.  I'm not too sure whether it'll attract further investing or not though.

Test what?  The thing that I think would most attract investing would be the jackpot trigger... where a jackpot hitting a certain amount would instantly change the expiration to a fixed value. Thought about it and there could be some MASSIVE jackpots if it happens!

I think it sort of seems like people would be reluctant to be the one to trigger it because then they would definitely lose their money: they would be the last to invest so they don't have much of a chance of getting paid out, and they also have no chance of winning the jackpot because people will definitely get in after them during the 8hr expiration.  If this rule is implemented there might be a fast initial investment period, then a long, slow period of sniping the 24hr jackpot, then a 0-deposit period before the last 30 minutes of the game, which will be fast.  It'll still end up lasting a very long time.

Hmm.. not quite sure if you've misunderstood the idea or if I misunderstood your response (probly bit of both Wink) I guess you're right that the person who triggers the fixed timer to start is unlikely to get paid out, although if there is a lot of sniping (which there will be if it's a big jackpot) then they have a chance, depending on the ROI. But this is no different from the fixed games as they stand. But they would still be able to try for the jackpot, so not sure where you're coming from there  Huh  As long as the trigger isn't set too high relative to the minimum deposit, I don't think it'll be too long and drawn out, but again, it'll be no different from the non-fixed games as they stand. Also, you're right that the last 30 minutes will be fast. And exciting. (I nearly **** myself when I won a 0.4 BTC jackpot yesterday  Cheesy) So you'd be getting the best (and the worst) of both types of game, with the benefit of bigger jackpots and more incentive to get in early.
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