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March 16, 2012, 08:47:39 PM
Actually, for all his character flaws, psy has been on the side of the angels on this issue.

This scam has nothing to do with SC, and it really isn't fair to paint it as such. Psy has been against scammers very publicly, and I can respect that opinion.

Bottom line is my mind is that bitscalper remains a scammer, and has found a patsy to assume his debt. I don't know MiningBuddy so I won't speak to his abilities or decision making process.

Until everything is made whole with everyone bitscalper is a scammer.

And now a scammer who clearly states that what he is doing is considered money laundering in his jurisdiction. Hmm, what an interesting new wrinkle. Wonder if MB was aware that he was adopting a terrorist?

new wrinkle ? you did not pay enough attention since the start.

So you are actually admitting that this entire thing is a money laundering operation, FROM THE START? That you have offered a criminal enterprise as an "investment vehicle"? That speaks loud and clear, not only about you as a scammer, but the integrity of any "trusted member" who would enter into business with you. MiningBuddy that means you. Are you good with offering criminal services for profit? Chaang Noi- are you okay with associating with money laundering as a way to profit for your company?

I think the community has a need to understand just how filthy these "trusted members" are willing to be. Are we merely the currency of choice of the criminal element, or is there hope for this being something useful to the legitimate world?

Probably you have some brain damage. Bitscalper can be considered money laundering activity under the italian laws.

Bitscalper- given your completely fucked up history here, your complete fuck-up of your business model, your horrible communication and dishonest manner of treating people who have invested with you, and your childish attitude- the very last thing you should be doing is making juvenile remarks about brain damage. You only serve to make yourself look like a bigger asshole that you have already been acting like.

How about if you just shut the fuck up and let the adults have a conversation? I was asking a legitimate and very serious question. You have been running an operation that is illegal in the country where you have been running it. You fucked up this "business" and had to have other people come to your assistance and clean up your mess. I am wondering if those people were aware that the entire base premise of your "scheme" is illegal, and under American law (which applies to Americans who might be investing with you...) you are considered to be assisting in terrorism, because money laundering is now included in terrorist activities in terms of penalties.

So, stupid little child, be quiet unless you have something meaningful to offer- your ridiculous comments add nothing to the situation that you have already fucked up in a huge way.

I personally now call for the Administration of this community to remove this thread and restrict any discussion of the bitscalper method, as it is extremely detrimental to the bitcoin concept, and as a service designed to break the law, is probably not something that should be in open discussion here.
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March 16, 2012, 07:55:28 PM
Actually, for all his character flaws, psy has been on the side of the angels on this issue.

This scam has nothing to do with SC, and it really isn't fair to paint it as such. Psy has been against scammers very publicly, and I can respect that opinion.

Bottom line is my mind is that bitscalper remains a scammer, and has found a patsy to assume his debt. I don't know MiningBuddy so I won't speak to his abilities or decision making process.

Until everything is made whole with everyone bitscalper is a scammer.

And now a scammer who clearly states that what he is doing is considered money laundering in his jurisdiction. Hmm, what an interesting new wrinkle. Wonder if MB was aware that he was adopting a terrorist?

new wrinkle ? you did not pay enough attention since the start.

So you are actually admitting that this entire thing is a money laundering operation, FROM THE START? That you have offered a criminal enterprise as an "investment vehicle"? That speaks loud and clear, not only about you as a scammer, but the integrity of any "trusted member" who would enter into business with you. MiningBuddy that means you. Are you good with offering criminal services for profit? Chaang Noi- are you okay with associating with money laundering as a way to profit for your company?

I think the community has a need to understand just how filthy these "trusted members" are willing to be. Are we merely the currency of choice of the criminal element, or is there hope for this being something useful to the legitimate world?

Probably you have some brain damage. Bitscalper can be considered money laundering activity under the italian laws.
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March 16, 2012, 07:50:57 PM
Mismanagement of funds can easily lead to a ponzi even without the intention of the management.
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March 16, 2012, 06:57:18 PM
Actually, for all his character flaws, psy has been on the side of the angels on this issue.

This scam has nothing to do with SC, and it really isn't fair to paint it as such. Psy has been against scammers very publicly, and I can respect that opinion.

Bottom line is my mind is that bitscalper remains a scammer, and has found a patsy to assume his debt. I don't know MiningBuddy so I won't speak to his abilities or decision making process.

Until everything is made whole with everyone bitscalper is a scammer.

And now a scammer who clearly states that what he is doing is considered money laundering in his jurisdiction. Hmm, what an interesting new wrinkle. Wonder if MB was aware that he was adopting a terrorist?

new wrinkle ? you did not pay enough attention since the start.

So you are actually admitting that this entire thing is a money laundering operation, FROM THE START? That you have offered a criminal enterprise as an "investment vehicle"? That speaks loud and clear, not only about you as a scammer, but the integrity of any "trusted member" who would enter into business with you. MiningBuddy that means you. Are you good with offering criminal services for profit? Chaang Noi- are you okay with associating with money laundering as a way to profit for your company?

I think the community has a need to understand just how filthy these "trusted members" are willing to be. Are we merely the currency of choice of the criminal element, or is there hope for this being something useful to the legitimate world?
It is my understanding that bitscalper was never intended to be a money laundering operation at all what so ever. The way I understand it is that given Italian laws, in their eyes, running a site like bitscalper, or simply using bitcoins themselves could/would be considered illegal activity.
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March 16, 2012, 06:53:26 PM
Are we merely the currency of choice of the criminal element, or is there hope for this being something useful to the legitimate world?
Oh you mean as opposed to the existing criminal element better known as the legitimate world?  Wink
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March 16, 2012, 06:46:10 PM
Actually, for all his character flaws, psy has been on the side of the angels on this issue.

This scam has nothing to do with SC, and it really isn't fair to paint it as such. Psy has been against scammers very publicly, and I can respect that opinion.

Bottom line is my mind is that bitscalper remains a scammer, and has found a patsy to assume his debt. I don't know MiningBuddy so I won't speak to his abilities or decision making process.

Until everything is made whole with everyone bitscalper is a scammer.

And now a scammer who clearly states that what he is doing is considered money laundering in his jurisdiction. Hmm, what an interesting new wrinkle. Wonder if MB was aware that he was adopting a terrorist?

new wrinkle ? you did not pay enough attention since the start.

So you are actually admitting that this entire thing is a money laundering operation, FROM THE START? That you have offered a criminal enterprise as an "investment vehicle"? That speaks loud and clear, not only about you as a scammer, but the integrity of any "trusted member" who would enter into business with you. MiningBuddy that means you. Are you good with offering criminal services for profit? Chaang Noi- are you okay with associating with money laundering as a way to profit for your company?

I think the community has a need to understand just how filthy these "trusted members" are willing to be. Are we merely the currency of choice of the criminal element, or is there hope for this being something useful to the legitimate world?
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March 16, 2012, 06:17:24 PM
PS: Funny to see a SolidCoin supporter like psy attacking people to be scammers.. that just feels weird...

Funny to see how dumb people confuse me disliking asshats of the likes of BitcoinEXpress and his fanbois* with me supporting Solidcoin.

Keep drinking the koolaid, blind man...

*who are themselves criminals and scammers, hence why I don't like them
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March 16, 2012, 06:06:21 PM
You are completely out of mind and full of bullshit. I'll assist the guys who will run bitscalper and you will see that it was real since the start Wink

Less talk, more walk.

Shut up.

Make me.

LOL
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March 16, 2012, 06:04:43 PM
You are completely out of mind and full of bullshit. I'll assist the guys who will run bitscalper and you will see that it was real since the start Wink

Less talk, more walk.

Shut up.

Make me.
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March 16, 2012, 06:01:58 PM
You are completely out of mind and full of bullshit. I'll assist the guys who will run bitscalper and you will see that it was real since the start Wink

Less talk, more walk.

Shut up.
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March 16, 2012, 05:20:26 PM
You are completely out of mind and full of bullshit. I'll assist the guys who will run bitscalper and you will see that it was real since the start Wink

Less talk, more walk.
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March 16, 2012, 05:17:40 PM
i hope one day you'll have the balls to speak to me.

I am speaking to you, genius. Who did you think this message is for?

Fair, but it's not that i have something to hide, i'm trying to avoid being prosecuted just for running bitscalper.

Well you're not running bitscalper anymore, right? So guess it's time to drop the anonymity!

5BTC says he gives another reason/excuse right after this in a classical self-serving, spergy sociopathic manner.

LOL. you are simple minded. I ran it in the near past, so i am still in the same situation, i can be prosecuted for having "laundered" a lot of money. I don't give a shit about your thoughts, your are a psychopathic.

So your service/site was always to run a illegal scam site hmm......
The thing that pisses me off the most is that you were selling the bot for 250-500 btc on reddit, no one took it then all of a sudden some guy can pay all your debts which is more likely 3k bitcoins. You are such a scammer i wouldnt doubt you gave the stolen bitcoins so that guy to take the fall..

Now most people are kissing your ass, except me and matt and only 1-2 more people... Because we know your ether a piece of shit scammer or you must be the worst programming in the world and cant manage shit. Which brings me to how you can sell your software for like 8x your asking price, why in the world would anyone pay 8x the requested amount for your software. Also i bet the way you created the bot is the same way you made your site. Which is a piece of shit, you got hacked on your site, you keep deleting the mysql table ect...

Now i cant wait for that guy who bought the piece of shit software to back down... If you cant manage your site how can you make software which costs $15,000

You are just buying time...  to scam more and more...

You are completely out of mind and full of bullshit. I'll assist the guys who will run bitscalper and you will see that it was real since the start Wink
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March 16, 2012, 05:15:15 PM
LOL. you are simple minded. I ran it in the near past, so i am still in the same situation, i can be prosecuted for having "laundered" a lot of money. I don't give a shit about your thoughts, your are a psychopathic.

Sociopaths are usually defined as people displaying anti social behavior which is mainly characterized by lack of empathy towards others that is coupled with display of abnormal moral conduct and inability to conform with the norms of the society. People suffering from antisocial personality disorder are often referred to as sociopaths. Some of the other characteristics that sociopaths may display are stealing, lying, lack of remorse for others and towards living beings, irresponsible behavior, impulsive behavior, drug or alcohol abuse, problems with the law, violating rights of others, aggressive behavior and much more.

Research has revealed that since a sociopath never conforms to the rules of the society, he or she is not bothered about the consequences of his or her actions. Such people at times are also able to inspire like minded people. Some of the other traits that are common in antisocial people are that they are usually intelligent and have a superficial charm and they are able to attain success using unscrupulous methods. Thus they can also never learn from their own mistakes and they do not hesitate to indulge in certain activities that are considered immoral and taboo by the society.


For a person to be diagnosed as a sociopath he or she must have at least three or more of the below mentioned symptoms. (I've bolded the ones that clearly relate to you).
  • Displays heightened levels of deceitfulness in dealings with others, which involves lying, conning others without remorse, or even using aliases
  • Inability to abide by the social norms and thus violating law
  • Displays aggressiveness and often tends to get into assaults and physical fights
  • Displays complete lack of empathy for others and their situation for which they are responsible
  • Displays no feelings or shallow feelings
  • Displays impulsive behavior which is indicated by the inability to plan for the future
  • Displays no concern for safety of others around them or self
  • Inability to sustain a consistent behavior that stems mainly from irresponsibility especially at work place or in other dealings
  • Displays promiscuous behavior

Just barely squeaked in there BitScalper.




Warning signs for sociopaths (again, bolded the ones you've shown):

  • inconsistencies between what a person says and does
  • excuses or subject changing when caught in a lie
  • no feeling of shame when caught an embarrassing situation
  • going around the question, answering it in a way that doesn’t really answer it
  • ability to sense vulnerabilities and motivated in using them for personal gain or pleasure, manipulate without remorse
  • seeing any social situation as a contest or a test
  • ability to understand rules & laws and judging them as a part of “the game”, but no ability for empathy or emotional understanding behind the rules
  • poorly connected speech and abundance of excuses, during speech using more hand gestures than normal. These tendencies reflect difficulty in converting thoughts and feelings into speech
  • repeatedly performing acts that can serve as grounds for arrest
  • irritability and aggressiveness, indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults
  • disregard for safety of self or others
  • cruelty to animal


Food for thought:

Quote

NARCISSISTIC SOCIOPATH

Sometimes people suffering from Antisocial Personality Disorder also tend to suffer from another mental disorder known as Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Such people are often called narcissistic sociopaths or sociopaths with narcissistic traits and such a situation is a dangerous one, as these people do not want to be helped. Such people often tend to be highly manipulative and without any shred of remorse for their actions, even if their actions have harmed others who are close to them or their family members. There is nothing that can stop a narcissistic sociopath from achieving his goals. He makes use of all his charm which is highly superficial and intellect in order to attain his goals by any means possible. Such people often think that they are above all and they do not really care if anyone disagrees with them.

Sounds like Atlas.



Your pathetic copy/pasting from wikipedia does not impress me and does not change things. You are the psycho here.
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March 16, 2012, 05:14:09 PM
Bottom line is my mind is that bitscalper remains a scammer, and has found a patsy to assume his debt. I don't know MiningBuddy so I won't speak to his abilities or decision making process.

Until everything is made whole with everyone bitscalper is a scammer.

And now a scammer who clearly states that what he is doing is considered money laundering in his jurisdiction. Hmm, what an interesting new wrinkle. Wonder if MB was aware that he was adopting a terrorist?

new wrinkle ? you did not pay enough attention since the start.
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March 16, 2012, 05:02:26 PM
Bottom line is my mind is that bitscalper remains a scammer, and has found a patsy to assume his debt. I don't know MiningBuddy so I won't speak to his abilities or decision making process.

Until everything is made whole with everyone bitscalper is a scammer.

And now a scammer who clearly states that what he is doing is considered money laundering in his jurisdiction. Hmm, what an interesting new wrinkle. Wonder if MB was aware that he was adopting a terrorist?

This is not news. He claimed this from day one. His public defense for anonymity is because he's "afraid of prosecution" in Italy.
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March 16, 2012, 04:58:28 PM
Bottom line is my mind is that bitscalper remains a scammer, and has found a patsy to assume his debt. I don't know MiningBuddy so I won't speak to his abilities or decision making process.

Until everything is made whole with everyone bitscalper is a scammer.

And now a scammer who clearly states that what he is doing is considered money laundering in his jurisdiction. Hmm, what an interesting new wrinkle. Wonder if MB was aware that he was adopting a terrorist?
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March 16, 2012, 04:47:37 PM
i hope one day you'll have the balls to speak to me.

I am speaking to you, genius. Who did you think this message is for?

Fair, but it's not that i have something to hide, i'm trying to avoid being prosecuted just for running bitscalper.

Well you're not running bitscalper anymore, right? So guess it's time to drop the anonymity!

5BTC says he gives another reason/excuse right after this in a classical self-serving, spergy sociopathic manner.

LOL. you are simple minded. I ran it in the near past, so i am still in the same situation, i can be prosecuted for having "laundered" a lot of money. I don't give a shit about your thoughts, your are a psychopathic.

So your service/site was always to run a illegal scam site hmm......
The thing that pisses me off the most is that you were selling the bot for 250-500 btc on reddit, no one took it then all of a sudden some guy can pay all your debts which is more likely 3k bitcoins. You are such a scammer i wouldnt doubt you gave the stolen bitcoins so that guy to take the fall..

Now most people are kissing your ass, except me and matt and only 1-2 more people... Because we know your ether a piece of shit scammer or you must be the worst programming in the world and cant manage shit. Which brings me to how you can sell your software for like 8x your asking price, why in the world would anyone pay 8x the requested amount for your software. Also i bet the way you created the bot is the same way you made your site. Which is a piece of shit, you got hacked on your site, you keep deleting the mysql table ect...

Now i cant wait for that guy who bought the piece of shit software to back down... If you cant manage your site how can you make software which costs $15,000

You are just buying time...  to scam more and more...
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March 16, 2012, 04:42:16 PM
LOL. you are simple minded. I ran it in the near past, so i am still in the same situation, i can be prosecuted for having "laundered" a lot of money. I don't give a shit about your thoughts, your are a psychopathic.

Sociopaths are usually defined as people displaying anti social behavior which is mainly characterized by lack of empathy towards others that is coupled with display of abnormal moral conduct and inability to conform with the norms of the society. People suffering from antisocial personality disorder are often referred to as sociopaths. Some of the other characteristics that sociopaths may display are stealing, lying, lack of remorse for others and towards living beings, irresponsible behavior, impulsive behavior, drug or alcohol abuse, problems with the law, violating rights of others, aggressive behavior and much more.

Research has revealed that since a sociopath never conforms to the rules of the society, he or she is not bothered about the consequences of his or her actions. Such people at times are also able to inspire like minded people. Some of the other traits that are common in antisocial people are that they are usually intelligent and have a superficial charm and they are able to attain success using unscrupulous methods. Thus they can also never learn from their own mistakes and they do not hesitate to indulge in certain activities that are considered immoral and taboo by the society.


For a person to be diagnosed as a sociopath he or she must have at least three or more of the below mentioned symptoms. (I've bolded the ones that clearly relate to you).
  • Displays heightened levels of deceitfulness in dealings with others, which involves lying, conning others without remorse, or even using aliases
  • Inability to abide by the social norms and thus violating law
  • Displays aggressiveness and often tends to get into assaults and physical fights
  • Displays complete lack of empathy for others and their situation for which they are responsible
  • Displays no feelings or shallow feelings
  • Displays impulsive behavior which is indicated by the inability to plan for the future
  • Displays no concern for safety of others around them or self
  • Inability to sustain a consistent behavior that stems mainly from irresponsibility especially at work place or in other dealings
  • Displays promiscuous behavior

Just barely squeaked in there BitScalper.




Warning signs for sociopaths (again, bolded the ones you've shown):

  • inconsistencies between what a person says and does
  • excuses or subject changing when caught in a lie
  • no feeling of shame when caught an embarrassing situation
  • going around the question, answering it in a way that doesn’t really answer it
  • ability to sense vulnerabilities and motivated in using them for personal gain or pleasure, manipulate without remorse
  • seeing any social situation as a contest or a test
  • ability to understand rules & laws and judging them as a part of “the game”, but no ability for empathy or emotional understanding behind the rules
  • poorly connected speech and abundance of excuses, during speech using more hand gestures than normal. These tendencies reflect difficulty in converting thoughts and feelings into speech
  • repeatedly performing acts that can serve as grounds for arrest
  • irritability and aggressiveness, indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults
  • disregard for safety of self or others
  • cruelty to animal


Food for thought:

Quote

NARCISSISTIC SOCIOPATH

Sometimes people suffering from Antisocial Personality Disorder also tend to suffer from another mental disorder known as Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Such people are often called narcissistic sociopaths or sociopaths with narcissistic traits and such a situation is a dangerous one, as these people do not want to be helped. Such people often tend to be highly manipulative and without any shred of remorse for their actions, even if their actions have harmed others who are close to them or their family members. There is nothing that can stop a narcissistic sociopath from achieving his goals. He makes use of all his charm which is highly superficial and intellect in order to attain his goals by any means possible. Such people often think that they are above all and they do not really care if anyone disagrees with them.

Sounds like Atlas.

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March 16, 2012, 04:34:38 PM
i hope one day you'll have the balls to speak to me.

I am speaking to you, genius. Who did you think this message is for?

Fair, but it's not that i have something to hide, i'm trying to avoid being prosecuted just for running bitscalper.

Well you're not running bitscalper anymore, right? So guess it's time to drop the anonymity!

5BTC says he gives another reason/excuse right after this in a classical self-serving, spergy sociopathic manner.

LOL. you are simple minded. I ran it in the near past, so i am still in the same situation, i can be prosecuted for having "laundered" a lot of money. I don't give a shit about your thoughts, your are a psychopathic.
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March 16, 2012, 04:07:34 PM
i hope one day you'll have the balls to speak to me.

I am speaking to you, genius. Who did you think this message is for?

Fair, but it's not that i have something to hide, i'm trying to avoid being prosecuted just for running bitscalper.

Well you're not running bitscalper anymore, right? So guess it's time to drop the anonymity!

5BTC says he gives another reason/excuse right after this in a classical self-serving, spergy sociopathic manner.
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