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Topic: Bitscalper back to business - page 11. (Read 21008 times)

member
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March 13, 2012, 04:20:33 PM
Logins down again  Angry

Should be ok now, i'm testing the new system and have to eventually reboot a couple times.

Fine, what about processing the requested withdrawal list instead of making videos and coding/testing a new system?
Or at least publishing on your website the announced guide?

When your new strategy is openness and transparency why not giving your users more short information about what is going on instead of playing personal flame-war?

Please focus on troubleshooting.
  

Ok, this is too much, i just noticed that someone stolen the few hundred coins i had transferred this morning to start the withdrawals. Probably someone who had gained earlier access and kept it silently, hoping for the better. I'm starting to check logs and whatever i need to find out where the coins are gone.. suggestions ? i am left with no words, sorry guys..
sr. member
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March 13, 2012, 03:53:56 PM
Logins down again  Angry

Should be ok now, i'm testing the new system and have to eventually reboot a couple times.

Fine, what about processing the requested withdrawal list instead of making videos and coding/testing a new system?
Or at least publishing on your website the announced guide?

When your new strategy is openness and transparency why not giving your users more short information about what is going on instead of playing personal flame-war?

Please focus on troubleshooting.
  
member
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March 13, 2012, 03:46:24 PM
Logins down again  Angry

Should be ok now, i'm testing the new system and have to eventually reboot a couple times.
member
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March 13, 2012, 03:45:17 PM
legendary
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March 13, 2012, 02:35:43 PM
Logins down again  Angry
sr. member
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March 13, 2012, 02:15:07 PM
I already shorty mentioned it a few post before, at a moment in time were login was not possible.
Therefore I would like to repeat it again.

The requested withdrawal list has been canceled the third time in a row. And the Bitcoins are back on your bitscalper accounts.
Login is possible at the moment of writing this and the new withdrawal list is adding up slowly. Up to now I can't see the double withdrawals effect anymore.
The total amount of new requested withdrawals has reached ~935 BTC already, still counting.

There is still no guide on his website nor any other update from Bitscalper.
Let's see what Bitscalper is doing next...
 
Will he really surprise all of us, by processing the withdrawals step by step? I have my doubts...
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March 13, 2012, 10:45:33 AM
Another interesting story:

One thing BitScalper did claim was that he is Italian, as did CoinExchanger.

He also claimed to have a wife, as did CoinExchanger.

He also used a fake name (twice, changing it in mid persona to tell us his "real" identity) just like CoinExchanger.

His identity also has a background on internet forums as a currency trader, just like CoinExchanger.

He also used a similar Google-style burner in the same area as CoinExchanger.

He is also obsessed with his anonymity like CoinExchanger.

He also uses Tor to connect to the forums, just like CoinExchanger.

He also only shows up publicly once in a long blue moon, just like CoinExchanger.

He also claims he is in Italy, but has his Skype country set to the USA and has suspicious routing to NYC, just like CoinExchanger.

He also has the same way of treating people (shady and sociopathically) as CoinExchanger.

He also talks in PM just like CoinExchanger, elipses and idioms and all.

He also switches from poor language to fluency randomly, just like CoinExchanger.

Interestingly enough, whenever I have called CoinExchanger "BitScalper", he has never once corrected me or seemed surprised, nor defended himself.

Also interestingly enough, when CoinExchanger first contacted me on Skype because I was trolling him, he talked to me like we had already known each other very well and said that he liked me a lot but wanted me to stop bothering his source of income.

I know correlation does not imply causation, but still-- as a hacker myself, something smells funny about both of those identities and I'm going to get to the bottom of it.

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March 13, 2012, 10:28:57 AM
as long as bitscalper comes here promoting his "new arbitrage bot" without returning peoples money everyone has the right to warn potential victims. So calling him a scammer is the least that can be done.

He already has the Scammer tag under his username. People are warned even without 7 pages of trolling.
If he didn't had the Scammer tag I would be all for it. Wink

And Matthew, your explanation was more reasonable than I thought it would be. You know there are no hard feelings Smiley

Of course.

EDIT: I edited my previous post and added some more information because I think it's relevant.

EDIT2: I edited it again to provide more information. Again. Again again.
legendary
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March 13, 2012, 10:19:16 AM
as long as bitscalper comes here promoting his "new arbitrage bot" without returning peoples money everyone has the right to warn potential victims. So calling him a scammer is the least that can be done.

He already has the Scammer tag under his username. People are warned even without 7 pages of trolling.
If he didn't had the Scammer tag I would be all for it. Wink

And Matthew, your explanation was more reasonable than I thought it would be. You know there are no hard feelings Smiley
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March 13, 2012, 10:13:01 AM
as long as bitscalper comes here promoting his "new arbitrage bot" without returning peoples money everyone has the right to warn potential victims. So calling him a scammer is the least that can be done.
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March 13, 2012, 10:07:17 AM
Matthew, only morons haven't understood by now that your only butthurt because bitscalper told you and your DCAO buddies a big "GTFO" when you wanted to know more than he wanted to reveal.
Not butthurt. Same story with CoinExchanger- threatened. Not butthurt. Threatened.

I broke up with him, he didn't break up with me.  Cry

You guys are just a bunch of jealous freaks who couldn't stand someone else having the script to make money and you wanted a piece of the pie also
Umm, I honestly don't remember if I mentioned this publicly or not, but BitScalper was trying to make me a partner and wanted to start an exchange with me. Why would I turn that down for any reason other than feeling like I was being conned by a sociopath?

Do you know he keeps dropping this guy's name who sold the .cc TLD (who he says is a millionaire philanthropist) and saying they are personal buddies and that all his funding comes from him? He kept saying "You can meet him tomorrow!" everyday for 2 weeks, along with "I will show you the code tomorrow!" everyday for 2 weeks. The only thing he ever showed me was a desktop capture of a live Mtgox ticker feed and a cell phone number (Google) that he never answered.

He also changed his promises every single time we talked, pushing back dates, giving excuses (good ones too!) which made me truly think he was not just a scammer, but a sociopath who actually believes he is as important as he was constantly bragging about. He talked about Zhou Tong like he was a "moron" and "didn't know his shit", and yet he would lose access to KalyHost for an entire week and have no backup, crying to me that he had 30,000BTC in a wallet on that VPS in Germany and no backups to his site OR the wallet.  Roll Eyes

He's got all the signs of a scammer and I've got all the signs of someone who is far too trusting, so I eventually caved into the already active voices who have experience building trade bots asking me flat out "Why would someone who makes profits based off of exclusivity like arbitrage trading give away access to it? It's just giving away profit. It's an obvious ponzi". This, and that regardless of his constant claims of "mad skillz" he was making amateur mistakes like not backing up his wallet, constantly pushing back appointments that were vital to build trust in him despite his complete anonymity, etc.

The only reason I posted here to not trust him was because things weren't adding up about him. And I mean, SERIOUSLY not adding up about him. I also made it clear that I did not think he was a scammer at first, that I just wanted the community to know that my personal dealings with him give me no reason to work with him under a completely anonymous setting that he demands to maintain, and every security professional I work with has backed me up stating simply "It's a no brainer. 100% anonymous means 100% risk. Only an idiot would deposit with him".

After a while though, even though I wanted to to stay cordial with him, he has disappeared several times, failed every benchmark, lost wallets, lost deposits, and still hasn't returned people's bitcoins.


I will go even further and say that a piece of the pie wasn't enough and you wanted to keep it ALL to yourself instead of letting other people deposit funds and be rewarded for it.
Even bitscalper knows this is bullshit. Our DCAO already has arbitrage bot trade developers and businessmen already using them, which is why we knew so much about what he was doing from day 1 (and why we picked up on his bluffs and inaccuracies from the first week). Even bitscalper will admit that I personally was just there to help him make as much money and get as big of a reward as possible for himself-- back when I thought he was a starving developer and not a scammer, that is.

We originally had approached him to see if he wanted to either work with us on a new project or to sell his bot, but after finding out that he didn't know anything about what he was doing and was smelling like a sociopath, we decided it was a waste of time, and everyone who was curious just became judgmental. I was the only one in the DCAO not calling him a scammer at this point, and they will all back me up on this, so much to the point they were losing faith in me because they said it was "blatant" and "obvious", and I kept wanting to believe and give him more than enough chances.

And that I did. Too many chances. He has never kept a single one of his promises, I have told him flat out what my needs are for trusting him, and he has always come close to fulfilling requirements to work with me (which he opted to do because he wanted to work with me personally and I wanted to work with him) but then would constantly become either emotional and claim it was not worth the risk on his point and "How dare" I ask him for anything related to his personal ID, or he would create constant streams of excuses. We're talking about blatantly ridiculous excuses here, like: "I promise I will give you code proving this is not a ponzi scheme on Wednesday" and then contacting me on Friday and telling me he's not comfortable giving anything to me, etc, and then discussing things as if they were on track (sociopath). It got to the point that I basically said "call me when you're ready to talk", but he would PM me whenever he had a problem with his site instead. We had an uneven and unhealthy relationship at that point and it was becoming obvious that he was a sociopath and most likely a scammer.

Also, what you said about me not wanting others to be rewarded, I'm sorry, is one of the most ignorant non-points in all of your statements. The only reason we met up in the first place is because I thought it was awesome to include the community (I was involved in Bitcoinica too!) in investments etc, and even talked to him about joining together to make a bigger investment based site (which is what he is trying to build right now on his own). You've read me wrong, because I troll a lot, and you've taken my trolling as being unnecessarily aggressive because I am "angry", instead of just being addicted to dopamine, having ADHD, and being easily amused at scammers wriggling.

Notice: I'm not defending him, and I said a few(7?) pages back that he must return everyones money.
But you are not helping...

I see this as being the result of one too many annoying trolling posts and I apologize. I have always respect your opinion and voice on things, and if you think I've crossed a line, I'll check myself. Really though... at this point, it would take a miracle to convince me he's not just Tom William 2.0, and it has absolutely nothing to do with the DCAO-- it's basic arbitrage common sense for profit sharing. Why would he do it? There is no logical reason.
legendary
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March 13, 2012, 09:49:43 AM
1st step is to process ALL the withdrawals.

He can't because he has no money; or

He is making money off of other people's money.

Matthew, only morons haven't understood by now that you're only butthurt because bitscalper told you and your DCAO buddies a big "GTFO" when you wanted to know more than he wanted to reveal.
You guys are just a bunch of jealous freaks who couldn't stand someone else having the script to make money and you wanted a piece of the pie also, I will go even further and say that a piece of the pie wasn't enough and you wanted to keep it ALL to yourself instead of letting other people deposit funds and be rewarded for it.

Notice: I'm not defending him(bitscalper), and I said a few(7?) pages back that he must return everyones money.
But you are not helping...
legendary
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Away on an extended break
March 13, 2012, 07:31:03 AM
Seriously, bitscalper needs to brush up his stuff.
legendary
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March 13, 2012, 07:26:54 AM
Wrong. The fund has touched those numbers during the first weeks, but then matthew scared anyone and withdrawals flowed plentiful.


Sign of a true professional. Ignoring that he's unprofessional, shady, anonymous and risky and then blaming his failures on someone else.

I'll be posting a guide on the website about how to reclaim coins deposited for those who want to back out.

Case in point: Holding people's money hostage and making them jump through hoops to get it.

Wow. You, again. What did you add this time ? enlight us please.

Why is the website letting people sign up but not sign in?
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March 13, 2012, 06:25:19 AM
1st step is to process ALL the withdrawals.

He can't because he has no money; or

He is making money off of other people's money.
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March 13, 2012, 06:04:42 AM
1st step is to process ALL the withdrawals. Im willing to bet BTC that the majority of those withdrawals (other than the obvious immediate duplicates) will be genuine.

^^That
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March 13, 2012, 05:52:02 AM
@bitscalper... instead of picking fights with trolls and making yourself look more and more unprofessional with each post you need to dedicate your time to sorting this fiasco out.

1st step is to process ALL the withdrawals. Im willing to bet BTC that the majority of those withdrawals (other than the obvious immediate duplicates) will be genuine.
2nd, full disclosure of what happened, what was deleted and detail what you WILL do to rectify. Theres still a small window of opportunity to get good press out of all this if you sort it all out within the next couple of days.
3rd. don't specify time-scales on the front page of your website if you never had any intention of meeting them.
4th. dont respond to this post, or any more. publish all info on your website and update the 1st post on here for us all to see once its been done.



sr. member
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March 13, 2012, 03:12:28 AM

Hi there, we do not hold "thousands of bitcoins", barely couple hundreds, i don't feel all this drama is necessary. We will process the withdrawals once our calculations look right. If people don't want to invest in bitscalper it's understandable. I don't see any other way to remove the "scammer brand" as you call it.

Well, your statement about only holding "barely couple hundreds" Bitcoins from users is a a quite elastic term.

I saw how many bitcoins were requested (a few thousands), but I can't be sure that all of this were legit requests because of your buggy system. Only you should know how many Bitcoins you hold from users.

But what I know for sure is, that you already are holding ~450 Bitcoins only from 3 friends of me and myself. And this are only 4 of your users. I can only hardly imaging that the total sum of user bitcoins is only a barely couple of hundreds - if we define "barely couple of hundreds" from lets say 200 to 700 or so. I think we are talking about a 4 digit number.

However, focus on your calculation, on writing your guide and proof that you are not a scammer.
Everything else is waisted time and you will still be a scammer in the eyes of everyone FULL STOP
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March 13, 2012, 03:01:42 AM
i invested about 1.27BTC in bitscalper's idea.

what was your investement ?
let us make a estimation of the payback...

8BTC here, made 3BTC, pulled out as soon as I made the decision to stop supporting anonymous shady businesses that can't explain why they don't even backup their own 'financial service' websites.

I imagine the 3BTC I made was sucked out of someone's deposits somewhere. Feels bad, man. Feels bad.

legendary
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March 13, 2012, 02:55:01 AM
i invested about 1.27BTC in bitscalper's idea.

what was your investement ?
let us make a estimation of the payback...
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