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Topic: 🌟Bits.game 🌟 ⭐ New "PvP" Jackpot Lottery game ⭐ - page 3. (Read 503 times)

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4. You are misundertanding our game, this is not a standart lottery. Here we don't have a bankroll, let's say you bet 1 ETH and i bet 0.1 BTC, i will have something like 80% chances to win the Pot and you about 20%  because i will have 5 times more tickets than you. After 45 seconds, the game starts and a random ticket will be picked, winner will get 1ETH + 0.1 BTC minus commission.
Well, great idea. I had read all the comments above and now I understand how it works the PvP lottery gambling like this. So literarily the pot prize depended on the player who plays the game and places a bet. Is the site have their own wallet for altcoin you won? It is automatically generated the wallet address. For example, I had won 0.1 LTC so it will directly created a wallet? How much the commission supposed to be deducted?
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the concept of a PVP lottery is not new and there was a wave of scammy websites that lured players with scripted bot plays
to me PVP lotteries have little to no future the way they are due to several reasons:
1. extremely difficult to prove fairness , you cannot be sure that the lucky player who is beating you time and time again is not a house sponsored bot
2. relatively long round waiting times - it is annoying to wait minutes ( in some cases hours or even days ) to play and with PVP sites you are not in control of when the round starts
3. overall low popularity because the vast majority of gamblers are already gambling at cryptocasinos and because of the "scam" trail , reducing the audience and increasingthe round waiting timers even more
4. PVP lotteries usually signal low bankroll and I cannot be sure even if I win the jackpot I get paid

and so on
waiting for a fresh , working PVP site concept to appear and no luck so far
if you have time, skim through  the Gambling section pages , starting from page 10 and earlier to see the graveyard of pvp lotteries and you will understand my point
I am aware of the scripted bot plays which lured players to play. Sites weren't actually working, it was all fake in order for people to deposit. I didn't try to play on those, but i guess you probably couldn't even bet.


1. This is not diffcult to prove fairness, to be transparent with you there is only one way for this kind of PvP site ( if it's a "legit" one ) to scam.
Since they give the round hashed before the game, and the unhashed after, only the admins can have access to the unhashed before the game starts, with the round number you can "adjust" your bet, if a player bets  10$, he will have around 1000tickets, with the roundnumber you will be able to determine the winning ticket, hence place the perfect bet to be able to win.
This is the only way for the admin to be able to win, here on bits.game, bot is placing his bet as the first user, so it is impossible for us to trick the user and we don't have any program or command giving us the unhashed version of the round number ( which we could have if we really wanted to ).
Then again, to be able to do this scam, not only you have to place your bet AFTER the user, but you also have to be sure nobody is going to bet right after you.

I believe, when you play on a casino you have to trust it at one point, every casino could scam you if they wanted to.

2. On our site, we have 45 seconds, which allow users to place bets if they want to, once a second user bets, the countdown will start, so you don't have to wait minutes or hours to play.
3. Nowadays,  it's hard for a new casino to become popular.
4. You are misundertanding our game, this is not a standart lottery. Here we don't have a bankroll, let's say you bet 1 ETH and i bet 0.1 BTC, i will have something like 80% chances to win the Pot and you about 20%  because i will have 5 times more tickets than you. After 45 seconds, the game starts and a random ticket will be picked, winner will get 1ETH + 0.1 BTC minus commission.



We are offering a new kind of PvP site, i didn't see any PvP site where you could bet multiple cryptos to the same game. Overtime, we will be able to add more and more cryptos.
Before starting the development of our site, we did take a look around, that's why we decided to add a bot, and to add those multiple cryptos option.
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the concept of a PVP lottery is not new and there was a wave of scammy websites that lured players with scripted bot plays
to me PVP lotteries have little to no future the way they are due to several reasons:
1. extremely difficult to prove fairness , you cannot be sure that the lucky player who is beating you time and time again is not a house sponsored bot
2. relatively long round waiting times - it is annoying to wait minutes ( in some cases hours or even days ) to play and with PVP sites you are not in control of when the round starts
3. overall low popularity because the vast majority of gamblers are already gambling at cryptocasinos and because of the "scam" trail , reducing the audience and increasing the round waiting timers even more
4. PVP lotteries usually signal low bankroll and I cannot be sure even if I win the jackpot I get paid

and so on
waiting for a fresh , working PVP site concept to appear and no luck so far
if you have time, skim through  the Gambling section pages , starting from page 10 and earlier to see the graveyard of pvp lotteries and you will understand my point
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Indeed, they have the secret and they can verify after the game is over, people aren't being manipulated because the bot is the first user to play.
Isn't that what you're trying to prevent? Well, how are the players going to know that it's the right amount of fair with regards to the fairness to the players? Will the bot be controlled by the casino, right? If the bot wins, you get all the staked. I think that's one flaw that needs to be worked out if it includes bots.


It doesn't matter if you have the most staking, you can still win the pot, when you bet, you are actually buying tickets, the more you bet the more tickets you have. But you can still win with 10% chances.
I know what the game of chances are, of course, if you have more tickets, you have more chances of winning. How could it be 10% if the chances of others are big?

As for the old PvP games, we are talking about Csgo jackpot games, it was and is still a popular game. You can watch our youtube video or you can watch any csgo jackpot video.
I haven't played that kind of games, but it's okay. I watched your YouTube video that's why I learned how the game works. You don't have any indication on this thread with regards to how it's being played. It's just a link.
Yes the bot is controlled by the casino, if the bot wins, he get all the staked indeed.

Before the game starts you have a round hash, once the game is over, you have it unencrypted. You can then verify the round number. The total number of tickets is random, we can't know it or guess it, it's all about how much people are betting. Since the bot is betting as the first user, we can't "match" our bet in order to win the pot with the round number. ( if you are implying we can control the outcome ).
Hence this is totally fair. If the bot bets 1$ and you bet 1$ after, you will have 50% chances to win, as much as the bot.

You can win with 10% chances because it all depends of the winning ticket, round number x total tickets = winning ticket.
By betting more, you just increase your ticket number, think of it as a lottery. The more tickets you buy, the more chances you have to have the winning ticket.

We will add indication on how to play this game in this thread, thank you for your feedback.



this type of gambling barely attract any gamblers and might not last long. if it possible you should add more gambling game that gamblers look for that is not majorly reliant on bankroll i.e. poker.
anyway this is just my opinion. good luck to your team!

We have more games planned if the site works and let us gather funds.
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Indeed, they have the secret and they can verify after the game is over, people aren't being manipulated because the bot is the first user to play.
Isn't that what you're trying to prevent? Well, how are the players going to know that it's the right amount of fair with regards to the fairness to the players? Will the bot be controlled by the casino, right? If the bot wins, you get all the staked. I think that's one flaw that needs to be worked out if it includes bots.


It doesn't matter if you have the most staking, you can still win the pot, when you bet, you are actually buying tickets, the more you bet the more tickets you have. But you can still win with 10% chances.
I know what the game of chances are, of course, if you have more tickets, you have more chances of winning. How could it be 10% if the chances of others are big?

As for the old PvP games, we are talking about Csgo jackpot games, it was and is still a popular game. You can watch our youtube video or you can watch any csgo jackpot video.
I haven't played that kind of games, but it's okay. I watched your YouTube video that's why I learned how the game works. You don't have any indication on this thread with regards to how it's being played. It's just a link.
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do you guys have afaucet to test out this new site?

just registered but bit hesitant to deposit before trying it

Unfortunately, we don't have a faucet.


Welcome to the gambling industry.
Frankly speaking I cant say something else except "why pvp lottery"? This type of lottery game has so low interest in this crypto gambling industry.
Although you have a new concept where players are able to play with various coins as well as winning it, but the main problem of this kind of game is still hard to solve.
You will need to work so hard to attract people. I have seen many failed lottery game in the last few years here, so you need to learn from other's experience on how to survive with this kind of game.

Hello,
Thank you for your reply.

There are several reasons as to why PvP,

  • We don't have enough funds to be able to have a bankroll, even less for a bankroll for several coins. With a PvP game, we can gather funds little by little to improve the site, make more games and have bankrolls.
  • We didn't see any PvP game like this one, we want to offer a new gambling experience and not something already seen. The main goal of the site is to offer new kind of games.


Do you mean the lack of users as main problem? if so we added a bot which will play with users, so it won't be a problem.

one of the main bottlenecks of pvp lottery is the number of players. but if you will add bots just to continue the game, it might help. but would it be nice if you have real players?
what are your strategies to attract new players on your platform and to stay afloat in this business? as you have mentioned that you dont have enough funds to be able to have a bankroll. thats why you are having a pvp lottery game.

Yes our goal is  to only have real players, bot will help us to grow the community.
We will try to do giveaway and advertise. Site cost us more than what was planned and took longer than expected.



Bots? that isnt  a good solution or feature to put on.You cant be sure that those bots are siding the house itself and basically it cant be considered as PvP since
you are playing against a bot.
Casual thing that do happen among Lottery sites no matter how attractive it is or what system they are using they do really end up on having no players due to lack of interest thats why we cant see Lottery sites that do succeed even up to now.

Bots aren't siding with the house at all, they are like normal players.
You can verify the round hasn't been rigged by calculating round number x total number of ticket.
Before the game starts, you have the round hash number, which let you verify it hasn't been changed.
In addition, bot is the "first" player to bet.


We added bot because as you said, the issue are the lack of players, if alot of people were playing together, they would have fun and a lottery site could work, hence a bot should help to resolve this issue a little bit.




Yeah right, bots are not right choice and certainly with bots they have a standard on their bot system, so if bot is always on side of host then gambling will be useless, players will always lose. At least they should be able to attract gamblers to use their platform, any way. There are many ways to get money to grow a business, they can borrow to add interesting features, it's just that they have to look much better.

I myself will try their platforms when they already look much better with new features which are certainly very beneficial for gamblers and not playing with bots.
As i said, you can verify the bot is neutral, it will bet 1$, up to you to bet more or to bet lose and earn it.

What kind of features are you thinking of ?


I'm curious about how the game will work on this "PvP" system. Ideally, people would have the same secrets and have to be reliable that it wasn't rigged in any way. Of course, you could show the "unencrypted version" of the round and let people verify what happened, but it doesn't assure the players that they are not being manipulated.

The game is quite interesting, but I'm still not confident enough to deposit my money in where you would play who has the most staking.

Please state the OLD PvP Games you are talking about. Where you referenced the game, and maybe it will help new players understand the concept, I know I haven't yet.
Indeed, they have the secret and they can verify after the game is over, people aren't being manipulated because the bot is the first user to play.

It doesn't matter if you have the most staking, you can still win the pot, when you bet, you are actually buying tickets, the more you bet the more tickets you have. But you can still win with 10% chances.

As for the old PvP games, we are talking about Csgo jackpot games, it was and is still a popular game. You can watch our youtube video or you can watch any csgo jackpot video.

Welcome on board in a crypto gambling industry, this is quite a unique and interesting game with PvP feature lottery, I never heard this before. I watched the video provided by the OP and it seems really good but what if when the moment you log in only 2 users online? How is the PvP being executed?

Anyway, how many altcoins acceptable to deposit aside from bitcoin?
Thank you, We accept ETH, BTC, LTC, Nano, OMG, GRS, Verge, BCHABC, XRP.

The bot will bet if nobody else is betting. So you can always bet even if you are alone on the site.
Bot will bet as long as it has balance.
Right now it has about 150$ in its balance, so it can play about 150 rounds.


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Welcome on board in a crypto gambling industry, this is quite a unique and interesting game with PvP feature lottery, I never heard this before. I watched the video provided by the OP and it seems really good but what if when the moment you log in only 2 users online? How is the PvP being executed?

Anyway, how many altcoins acceptable to deposit aside from bitcoin?
The video is only tutorial how to make an account, deposit and playing and according to the lottery rules 2 users are enough to starting the game and if i have to counted altcoins which is acceptable to deposit at there approximately 8 altcoins including LTC and Eth however unfortunately this site don't have a faucet to testing the game
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Welcome on board in a crypto gambling industry, this is quite a unique and interesting game with PvP feature lottery, I never heard this before. I watched the video provided by the OP and it seems really good but what if when the moment you log in only 2 users online? How is the PvP being executed?

Anyway, how many altcoins acceptable to deposit aside from bitcoin?
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I'm curious about how the game will work on this "PvP" system. Ideally, people would have the same secrets and have to be reliable that it wasn't rigged in any way. Of course, you could show the "unencrypted version" of the round and let people verify what happened, but it doesn't assure the players that they are not being manipulated.

The game is quite interesting, but I'm still not confident enough to deposit my money in where you would play who has the most staking.

Please state the OLD PvP Games you are talking about. Where you referenced the game, and maybe it will help new players understand the concept, I know I haven't yet.
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Bots? that isnt  a good solution or feature to put on.You cant be sure that those bots are siding the house itself and basically it cant be considered as PvP since
you are playing against a bot.
Casual thing that do happen among Lottery sites no matter how attractive it is or what system they are using they do really end up on having no players due to lack of interest thats why we cant see Lottery sites that do succeed even up to now.

Yeah right, bots are not right choice and certainly with bots they have a standard on their bot system, so if bot is always on side of host then gambling will be useless, players will always lose. At least they should be able to attract gamblers to use their platform, any way. There are many ways to get money to grow a business, they can borrow to add interesting features, it's just that they have to look much better.

I myself will try their platforms when they already look much better with new features which are certainly very beneficial for gamblers and not playing with bots.
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Welcome to the gambling industry.
Frankly speaking I cant say something else except "why pvp lottery"? This type of lottery game has so low interest in this crypto gambling industry.
Although you have a new concept where players are able to play with various coins as well as winning it, but the main problem of this kind of game is still hard to solve.
You will need to work so hard to attract people. I have seen many failed lottery game in the last few years here, so you need to learn from other's experience on how to survive with this kind of game.

Hello,
Thank you for your reply.

There are several reasons as to why PvP,

  • We don't have enough funds to be able to have a bankroll, even less for a bankroll for several coins. With a PvP game, we can gather funds little by little to improve the site, make more games and have bankrolls.
  • We didn't see any PvP game like this one, we want to offer a new gambling experience and not something already seen. The main goal of the site is to offer new kind of games.


Do you mean the lack of users as main problem? if so we added a bot which will play with users, so it won't be a problem.

one of the main bottlenecks of pvp lottery is the number of players. but if you will add bots just to continue the game, it might help. but would it be nice if you have real players?
what are your strategies to attract new players on your platform and to stay afloat in this business? as you have mentioned that you dont have enough funds to be able to have a bankroll. thats why you are having a pvp lottery game.
Bots? that isnt  a good solution or feature to put on.You cant be sure that those bots are siding the house itself and basically it cant be considered as PvP since
you are playing against a bot.
Casual thing that do happen among Lottery sites no matter how attractive it is or what system they are using they do really end up on having no players due to lack of interest thats why we cant see Lottery sites that do succeed even up to now.
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Welcome to the gambling industry.
Frankly speaking I cant say something else except "why pvp lottery"? This type of lottery game has so low interest in this crypto gambling industry.
Although you have a new concept where players are able to play with various coins as well as winning it, but the main problem of this kind of game is still hard to solve.
You will need to work so hard to attract people. I have seen many failed lottery game in the last few years here, so you need to learn from other's experience on how to survive with this kind of game.

Hello,
Thank you for your reply.

There are several reasons as to why PvP,

  • We don't have enough funds to be able to have a bankroll, even less for a bankroll for several coins. With a PvP game, we can gather funds little by little to improve the site, make more games and have bankrolls.
  • We didn't see any PvP game like this one, we want to offer a new gambling experience and not something already seen. The main goal of the site is to offer new kind of games.


Do you mean the lack of users as main problem? if so we added a bot which will play with users, so it won't be a problem.

one of the main bottlenecks of pvp lottery is the number of players. but if you will add bots just to continue the game, it might help. but would it be nice if you have real players?
what are your strategies to attract new players on your platform and to stay afloat in this business? as you have mentioned that you dont have enough funds to be able to have a bankroll. thats why you are having a pvp lottery game.
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do you guys have afaucet to test out this new site?

just registered but bit hesitant to deposit before trying it
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Welcome to the gambling industry.
Frankly speaking I cant say something else except "why pvp lottery"? This type of lottery game has so low interest in this crypto gambling industry.
Although you have a new concept where players are able to play with various coins as well as winning it, but the main problem of this kind of game is still hard to solve.
You will need to work so hard to attract people. I have seen many failed lottery game in the last few years here, so you need to learn from other's experience on how to survive with this kind of game.

Hello,
Thank you for your reply.

There are several reasons as to why PvP,

  • We don't have enough funds to be able to have a bankroll, even less for a bankroll for several coins. With a PvP game, we can gather funds little by little to improve the site, make more games and have bankrolls.
  • We didn't see any PvP game like this one, we want to offer a new gambling experience and not something already seen. The main goal of the site is to offer new kind of games.


Do you mean the lack of users as main problem? if so we added a bot which will play with users, so it won't be a problem.
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Welcome to the gambling industry.
Frankly speaking I cant say something else except "why pvp lottery"? This type of lottery game has so low interest in this crypto gambling industry.
Although you have a new concept where players are able to play with various coins as well as winning it, but the main problem of this kind of game is still hard to solve.
You will need to work so hard to attract people. I have seen many failed lottery game in the last few years here, so you need to learn from other's experience on how to survive with this kind of game.
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We are launching a Players vs Players gambling site Jackpot game.

We realize, similar sites were launched in past, but this one is a little bit different from the others ones.

_______________________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________
  • Here, you can bet 9 differents cryptocurrencies to the same pot :

    Player A bets BTC
    Player B bets ETH
    Player C bets Nano

    Winner takes all, he will gain BTC + ETH + Nano.


_______________________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________

  • PvP games lack a base of players, hence we decided to add Bots at launch. A bot will always be betting first, and after you, if nobody else is playing and if you are alone. You will always have someone to play against as long as we fill balance with cryptos.




If you have any suggestions, or feedback, please post.
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